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Post by aris on Jul 12, 2018 16:42:28 GMT -7
its under or the pds would have released it along with the videos to save face. that cop was enough to video himself framing someone because they tried to outsmapt him then called in a fellow officer and threw them under the buss by forcing them to make the arrest based on his false claims. the cop really followed a drunk driver for an hour before pulling them over? he watched a "drunk" wander around in a parking lot without staggering? that was his probable cause? along with the car and curb keim almost hit that somehow the camera missed even better than keim did? if after that video the pd had nay "yeah but" to add in their defense they would have. all pd released was "After reviewing the BWC footage, Mr. Keim stated that a person by the name of Sean McKenzie was their director of security and that he worked for the Arizona Cardinals. The officer will be completing a supplemental report to make that correction" basically we are requiring the officer to admit he lied. I heard the pd release keim 2-3 hours after his arrest, after the officer decided he was sober enough to drive home before seeing a judge. there is no allowance for that under law. his license would be auto suspended and he would be required to see a judge. he would not be allowed to drive home. you must have probable cause to pull someone over. He may have been suspicion of Steve evading being pulled over but he still needed a reason. And you state he followed him for an "hour" . Was this your conjecture or fact? The officer "lied" you say or he just misheard what Steve said about the security officer. Why did steve need to say this? Was he trying to procure a favor? Did you make up the stuff about him driving home? Steve will be guilty and then you come in and apologize to the police.
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Post by Dry Heat on Jul 12, 2018 17:08:34 GMT -7
its under or the pds would have released it along with the videos to save face. that cop was enough to video himself framing someone because they tried to outsmapt him then called in a fellow officer and threw them under the buss by forcing them to make the arrest based on his false claims. the cop really followed a drunk driver for an hour before pulling them over? he watched a "drunk" wander around in a parking lot without staggering? that was his probable cause? along with the car and curb keim almost hit that somehow the camera missed even better than keim did? if after that video the pd had nay "yeah but" to add in their defense they would have. all pd released was "After reviewing the BWC footage, Mr. Keim stated that a person by the name of Sean McKenzie was their director of security and that he worked for the Arizona Cardinals. The officer will be completing a supplemental report to make that correction" basically we are requiring the officer to admit he lied. I heard the pd release keim 2-3 hours after his arrest, after the officer decided he was sober enough to drive home before seeing a judge. there is no allowance for that under law. his license would be auto suspended and he would be required to see a judge. he would not be allowed to drive home. you must have probable cause to pull someone over. He may have been suspicion of Steve evading being pulled over but he still needed a reason. And you state he followed him for an "hour" . Was this your conjecture or fact? The officer "lied" you say or he just misheard what Steve said about the security officer. Why did steve need to say this? Was he trying to procure a favor? Did you make up the stuff about him driving home? Steve will be guilty and then you come in and apologize to the police. Probable cause gets pretty subjective sometimes... But yeah I haven’t heard anything about following him for an hour or driving himself home. I heard the Raptor was towed. And while I don’t think Keim was blitzed, he certainly admitted to 2 beers, so that’s a minimum. I’m interested in the BAC.
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Post by Boomer on Jul 13, 2018 7:12:17 GMT -7
its under or the pds would have released it along with the videos to save face. that cop was enough to video himself framing someone because they tried to outsmapt him then called in a fellow officer and threw them under the buss by forcing them to make the arrest based on his false claims. the cop really followed a drunk driver for an hour before pulling them over? he watched a "drunk" wander around in a parking lot without staggering? that was his probable cause? along with the car and curb keim almost hit that somehow the camera missed even better than keim did? if after that video the pd had nay "yeah but" to add in their defense they would have. all pd released was "After reviewing the BWC footage, Mr. Keim stated that a person by the name of Sean McKenzie was their director of security and that he worked for the Arizona Cardinals. The officer will be completing a supplemental report to make that correction" basically we are requiring the officer to admit he lied. I heard the pd release keim 2-3 hours after his arrest, after the officer decided he was sober enough to drive home before seeing a judge. there is no allowance for that under law. his license would be auto suspended and he would be required to see a judge. he would not be allowed to drive home. you must have probable cause to pull someone over. He may have been suspicion of Steve evading being pulled over but he still needed a reason. And you state he followed him for an "hour" . Was this your conjecture or fact? The officer "lied" you say or he just misheard what Steve said about the security officer. Why did steve need to say this? Was he trying to procure a favor? Did you make up the stuff about him driving home? Steve will be guilty and then you come in and apologize to the police. Apparently the Director of Security is there to protect the employees from harm and advise them in situations where they may be in danger. It appears it's a policy with employees to contact the security office whenever they are approached by law enforcement. www.thebalancecareers.com/nfl-security-specialist-job-information-974481btw...jails have plenty of people in them that "misheard" and made false statements only to be caught later and prosecuted for contempt.
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Post by aris on Jul 13, 2018 8:09:45 GMT -7
you must have probable cause to pull someone over. He may have been suspicion of Steve evading being pulled over but he still needed a reason. And you state he followed him for an "hour" . Was this your conjecture or fact? The officer "lied" you say or he just misheard what Steve said about the security officer. Why did steve need to say this? Was he trying to procure a favor? Did you make up the stuff about him driving home? Steve will be guilty and then you come in and apologize to the police. Apparently the Director of Security is there to protect the employees from harm and advise them in situations where they may be in danger. It appears it's a policy with employees to contact the security office whenever they are approached by law enforcement. www.thebalancecareers.com/nfl-security-specialist-job-information-974481btw...jails have plenty of people in them that "misheard" and made false statements only to be caught later and prosecuted for contempt. So you think at that moment a police officer should be calling "the head of security"? It was a bizarre statement and more in line with trying to procure a favor. He mentioned "he works for the Chandler police". SteveO was trying to "work things out" at that point.
what makes me laugh is people are commenting on how steve was so "cooperative" and not falling down drunk. But Steve O was practicing exactly what a lawyer would advise if you got pulled over and were drinking. cooperate fully, refuse the breathalyzer and Steve O even tried the old " hey just call my buddy who works with you guys".
Steve O will be found guilty. Even his statement after the fact indicates to me he knows he's done wrong. I'm not advocating firing the guy. That's ridiculous. But the NFL will come down on him as it should. As it is this is STeve O's second time drinking and driving (at least caught twice which means he's probably done it dozens of times.)
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Post by Boomer on Jul 13, 2018 8:46:52 GMT -7
Apparently the Director of Security is there to protect the employees from harm and advise them in situations where they may be in danger. It appears it's a policy with employees to contact the security office whenever they are approached by law enforcement. www.thebalancecareers.com/nfl-security-specialist-job-information-974481btw...jails have plenty of people in them that "misheard" and made false statements only to be caught later and prosecuted for contempt. So you think at that moment a police officer should be calling "the head of security"? It was a bizarre statement and more in line with trying to procure a favor. He mentioned "he works for the Chandler police". SteveO was trying to "work things out" at that point.
what makes me laugh is people are commenting on how steve was so "cooperative" and not falling down drunk. But Steve O was practicing exactly what a lawyer would advise if you got pulled over and were drinking. cooperate fully, refuse the breathalyzer and Steve O even tried the old " hey just call my buddy who works with you guys".
Steve O will be found guilty. Even his statement after the fact indicates to me he knows he's done wrong. I'm not advocating firing the guy. That's ridiculous. But the NFL will come down on him as it should. As it is this is STeve O's second time drinking and driving (at least caught twice which means he's probably done it dozens of times.)
I'm showing you the facts and you are still locked on hyperbole and speculation. I'm not interested in yours or anyone else's fantasy land. Done debating this for now. Whole story will eventually come out and whatever happens to SK will get disclosed.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2018 9:01:30 GMT -7
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Post by End Zone on Jul 15, 2018 16:28:29 GMT -7
Craziest thread ever....
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Post by Rimrock on Jul 17, 2018 14:10:30 GMT -7
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Post by Rimrock on Jul 17, 2018 14:12:53 GMT -7
above .15
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Post by Zaz on Jul 17, 2018 14:34:35 GMT -7
The man is 6'4 300 pounds. Meaning in order to blow a .15, he had plenty of opportunities while drinking those 10+ beers to stop and reevaluate his decision.
fired
fired
& fired
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Post by biggs on Jul 17, 2018 14:35:35 GMT -7
My apology to the cop who pulled him over. A blood alcohol at .19. 30 days in the big house, $2,500 dollar fine and a personally autographed Mike Floyd Pats Jersey. I have to say based on his blood alcohol level coupled with his self control he's probably a functional alcoholic.
The team should probably ask him to go through rehab. I feel bad for him and his family. Nothing good about this.
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Post by pajaro cerebro on Jul 17, 2018 14:37:22 GMT -7
.19?! Ouch, that really sucks. I only have 2 thoughts:
1) Boy, can Keim hold his liquor! If he's an alcoholic, he's a functional one.
2) He deserves whatever punishment is coming his way. .19 is inexcusable, especially for a guy in his position.
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Post by Zaz on Jul 17, 2018 14:39:20 GMT -7
That was quick, Darren Urban already has the punishment reported:
GM Steve Keim suspended five weeks, fined $200,000
Mike Bidwill is good person, truly. But hes also a spineless worm. Not firing Keim absolutely destroys the integrity of this team. A suspension for a GM? suspended from what? What a worthless "punishment".
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Post by beaverhuntr on Jul 17, 2018 14:40:35 GMT -7
My apology to the cop who pulled him over. A blood alcohol at .19. 30 days in the big house, $2,500 dollar fine and a personally autographed Mike Floyd Pats Jersey. I have to say based on his blood alcohol level coupled with his self control he's probably a functional alcoholic. The team should probably ask him to go through rehab. I feel bad for him and his family. Nothing good about this. Oh man a .19 .. At least Tent City is gone
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Post by beaverhuntr on Jul 17, 2018 14:42:00 GMT -7
That was quick, Darren Urban already has the punishment reported: GM Steve Keim suspended five weeks, fined $200,000 Mike Bidwill is good person, truly. But hes also a spineless worm. Not firing Keim absolutely destroys the integrity of this team. A suspension for a GM? suspended from what? What a worthless "punishment". I gotta agree with Zaz if this was any player he'd be cut already.
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