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Post by End Zone on Jan 2, 2024 4:17:35 GMT -7
Nix is going to be drafted. I have no issue with WF's projection for NIX being the 4th QB off the board in April. I still have Maye, Daniels, and Williams ranked ahead of Nix. It's about the money. I predict that McCarthy will not declare for the 2024 Draft and will finish his last year of eligibility with Harbaugh at Michigan. McCarthy will be more experienced and have less QB competition for the 2025 Draft. Michigan will pay McCarthy to stay 1 more year and then a NFL team will pay McCarthy in full later. Coming out in 2024 will cost McCarthy many millions of dollars.
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Post by CardsFanQC on Jan 2, 2024 6:17:42 GMT -7
Nix is going to be drafted. I have no issue with WF's projection for NIX being the 4th QB off the board in April. I still have Maye, Daniels, and Williams ranked ahead of Nix. It's about the money. I predict that McCarthy will not declare for the 2024 Draft and will finish his last year of eligibility with Harbaugh at Michigan. McCarthy will be more experienced and have less QB competition for the 2025 Draft. Michigan will pay McCarthy to stay 1 more year and then a NFL team will pay McCarthy in full later. Coming out in 2024 will cost McCarthy many millions of dollars. Harbaugh is probably the next coach of the Chargers ... McCarthy will turn pro.
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Post by belac44 on Jan 2, 2024 8:18:41 GMT -7
Off topic, but in the link, I am a big fan of Morgan. I feel there is a drop off in talent at OT after him. If he is even around in early second that is probably the last chance to nab him. I think getting OT of the future in the fold now would be a wise move. With he and Paris, you would have two athletic and svelt OT’s. QB wise, I like Nix as well but not sure he makes sense for Cards. I would be excited to have him around as well, but would be aware we passed up someone who could help now. He would be a solid back up for when Kyler misses time and insurance in case the proper growth does not occur once all the excuses are gone.
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Post by CardsFanQC on Jan 2, 2024 8:46:56 GMT -7
Off topic, but in the link, I am a big fan of Morgan. I feel there is a drop off in talent at OT after him. If he is even around in early second that is probably the last chance to nab him. I think getting OT of the future in the fold now would be a wise move. With he and Paris, you would have two athletic and svelt OT’s. QB wise, I like Nix as well but not sure he makes sense for Cards. I would be excited to have him around as well, but would be aware we passed up someone who could help now. He would be a solid back up for when Kyler misses time and insurance in case the proper growth does not occur once all the excuses are gone. I would love a trade down scenario where Monti picks up extra 2nd rounder - would love in 1st and 2nd round to upgrade the WR & OT then with the other 5 picks (if trade down can happen) in the top 82 - go DEFENSE, DEFENSE, DEFENSE. Get your LG & CB1 ($$ whip Jaylon Johnson) in Free Agency. Can Monti trade down and get extra top 80 pick and then give the Panthers a Mid-20's first rounder (after trade down to get a 2nd) and one of the 3rd round picks to get Derrick Brown of the Panthers ? Backup QB's which could be available to the Cardinals that are at least interesting including definite speculations in the last 4 options: - Jake Browning
- Drew Lock
- Tyrod Taylor
- Gardner Minshew
- Josh Dobbs
- Mason Rudolph
- Mac Jones - assuming Pats choose top 3 QB in draft
- Sam Howell - assuming Commanders pick a top 3 QB in draft
- Zach Wilson (?) - will the Jets dump him since Rodgers says he is playing a few more years.
- Desmond Ridder available after the Falcons go get Justin Fields ??
P.S. What is happening with Kirk Cousins -- I am assuming Vikes continue to pay him.
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Post by belac44 on Jan 2, 2024 8:57:29 GMT -7
Off topic, but in the link, I am a big fan of Morgan. I feel there is a drop off in talent at OT after him. If he is even around in early second that is probably the last chance to nab him. I think getting OT of the future in the fold now would be a wise move. With he and Paris, you would have two athletic and svelt OT’s. QB wise, I like Nix as well but not sure he makes sense for Cards. I would be excited to have him around as well, but would be aware we passed up someone who could help now. He would be a solid back up for when Kyler misses time and insurance in case the proper growth does not occur once all the excuses are gone. I would love a trade down scenario where Monti picks up extra 2nd rounder - would love in 1st and 2nd round to upgrade the WR & OT then with the other 5 picks (if trade down can happen) in the top 82 - go DEFENSE, DEFENSE, DEFENSE. Get your LG & CB1 ($$ whip Jaylon Johnson) in Free Agency. Can Monti trade down and get extra top 80 pick and then give the Panthers a Mid-20's first rounder (after trade down to get a 2nd) and one of the 3rd round picks to get Derrick Brown of the Panthers ? Backup QB's which could be available to the Cardinals that are at least interesting including definite speculations in the last 4 options: - Jake Browning
- Drew Lock
- Tyrod Taylor
- Gardner Minshew
- Josh Dobbs
- Mason Rudolph
- Mac Jones - assuming Pats choose top 3 QB in draft
- Sam Howell - assuming Commanders pick a top 3 QB in draft
- Zach Wilson (?) - will the Jets dump him since Rodgers says he is playing a few more years.
- Desmond Ridder available after the Falcons go get Justin Fields ??
P.S. What is happening with Kirk Cousins -- I am assuming Vikes continue to pay him.
Not loving that QB list. I know quite a few on this board would be happy to finally land Minshew. I would be good with him, just like last offseason though, does it make sense for him to come here? He went to Indy before they drafted the QB. I believe he will want to go where he has real shot to start and not have to wait until someone gets hurt. He can play. Trading back to pick up some extra picks would be great in order to take a luxury pick like Nix. I am not currently loving the players at the Houston pick, but much can change regarding that. Trade down options would be in play for me with both picks, would love to stack as many as possible in top 3 rounds and using one for a vet would be great.
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Post by cardinalsins on Jan 3, 2024 8:29:02 GMT -7
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Post by CardsFanQC on Jan 5, 2024 3:30:29 GMT -7
Michael Penix will be almost 24 1/2 yrs. old by the time the 2024 NFL season starts -- also has had 4 injuries primarily knees/shoulder ... he is NOT going in the top 20 of the draft. Who knows a team may fall in love with what he has shown in 2023 when healthy and trade up to get him on the back end of the 1st round. Anyway - I think the Cards are still in good shape at #4 (can't win on Sunday though) to get MHJ and I still think they will be sitting at #3 with the Pats winning in Belichick's last game as Pats coach vs. the Jets. Forum members will want to read this latest "Hot Press" article from WF that after consulting with many scouts from many different teams, there is NO consensus when ranking the top 3 QB's. Some teams even like Jayden Daniels as their #1 QB. This fact sets up for QB's to go 1-2-3 in the 2024 draft letting MHJ fall right into the Cards lap ... unless the Cards pull off a victory Sunday.NFL Teams Differ widely on how to rank the top 3 QB's in the 2024 NFL Draft
NOTE: I was very happy last weekend with the Cards statement win over the Eagles however especially if the Pats win over the Jets, I will not be rooting for the Cards vs. Seahawks. I will be rooting for the Cards to get out of the game escaping with NO serious injuries, Cards offense plays well under KM1 but that the Seahawks grind out a late score and win a close game. The Eagles victory showed me the team's roster is positive about the future and faith in coaching staff which won't be harmed in any way if Cards lose a close game on Sunday. The above scenario will allow the Cards drafting at #3 or #4 to get the top player in the draft or even at #3 to trade down 1 spot with the Pats and pickup an extra 2nd rounder. Additionally if the Colts beat Texans, a win by Seattle would push up the Houston pick to be another spot higher into the area where one of the better OT's will be available.
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Post by JAB on Jan 6, 2024 1:13:48 GMT -7
No way Bo Nix and I'm a big Duck fan.
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Post by JAB on Jan 8, 2024 20:59:22 GMT -7
Michael Penix Jr looks like junk. Can't move at all. Zero accuracy when he's not comfortable. That's not a good thing.
This dude might fall to the second round after this game. Totally lost when he doesn't just get to stand on his spot.
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Post by Dry Heat on Jan 8, 2024 21:51:43 GMT -7
Michael Penix Jr looks like junk. Can't move at all. Zero accuracy when he's not comfortable. That's not a good thing. This dude might fall to the second round after this game. Totally lost when he doesn't just get to stand on his spot. That’s why I’ve taken him in ZERO of my many, many mock drafts. He’s a statue who needs a perfect Oline and pocket. That won’t get it done in today’s NFL.
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Post by CardSunsCard on Jan 8, 2024 22:05:31 GMT -7
Michael Penix Jr looks like junk. Can't move at all. Zero accuracy when he's not comfortable. That's not a good thing. This dude might fall to the second round after this game. Totally lost when he doesn't just get to stand on his spot. Stroud had the lowest QB 'pressure' ratings of any top college QB the year he came out. Lot's of folks don't realize that despite me posting about it several times in the pre-draft weeks. The question about Penix is does he have more than that one flaw, because the above flaw can be addressed if you maximize protection and adjust play calls. Stroud was great at almost everything else, from reading defenses to having experience in pro systems and throwing with anticipation. I don't follow the Pac12 closely so others will have to post about whether Penix is strong in those areas, because I have no clue. I just wanted to remind others that Stroud's accuracy dropped off a cliff when he wasn't protected in college. Stroud also wasn't that mobile. Relative to his competition. That was probably his only other flaw. Funny when you think about it. A lot of our board members think mobility and accuracy under pressure are absolutely everything. If they'd have watched more college ball they'd never have taken Stroud. Heck, I can think of a handful that might have even said Stroud sucked. Probably the guys who don't watch much college ball and trust internet bloggers.
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Post by Redbirdfan62 on Jan 11, 2024 7:04:06 GMT -7
Nix is going to be drafted. I have no issue with WF's projection for NIX being the 4th QB off the board in April. I still have Maye, Daniels, and Williams ranked ahead of Nix. It's about the money. I predict that McCarthy will not declare for the 2024 Draft and will finish his last year of eligibility with Harbaugh at Michigan. McCarthy will be more experienced and have less QB competition for the 2025 Draft. Michigan will pay McCarthy to stay 1 more year and then a NFL team will pay McCarthy in full later. Coming out in 2024 will cost McCarthy many millions of dollars. Harbaugh is probably the next coach of the Chargers ... McCarthy will turn pro. He is gonna ground and pound and make his Qb more effective Wanted him for the Cardinals. I am happy with the coaches we have though they are improving the run game and not putting it all on KM. I don't think we take a Qb unless there is one that better fits what this staff wants to do.
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Post by cardinalsins on Jan 12, 2024 9:37:51 GMT -7
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Post by End Zone on Jan 12, 2024 15:32:59 GMT -7
The Patriots are going to love Maye! The Patriots second option is Daniels. I don't think the NE fans have had a RPO QB in the history of the franchise, and certainly not during BB's glory run.
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Post by CardSunsCard on Jan 13, 2024 2:22:30 GMT -7
Dude makes mistakes as everyone does but that's a perfect example of why coaches love the kid. There is plenty of tape like this where he manipulates safeties into giving up big plays. I wish Kyler had the brains to do more of this stuff.
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