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Post by UKcardinal on Aug 12, 2018 8:57:48 GMT -7
did ya see the game? now do you understand why we should go for greg mantcz? like I said, Bradford and rosen's health is more important to the team than a rookies ego. do you really want Glennon behind center any time soon? how many injuries were there tonight? any more questions as to why we need to sign more proven people? because its not the scrubs getting hurt, we need starters, people who can get the job done. I must have missed the part where Mason Cole was at fault. |
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Post by rdo3 on Aug 12, 2018 9:25:51 GMT -7
because mason cole wasn't playing 2nd string, where he was drafted to play this year. we need to sign a starting center who can protect rosen. you excuse was he needed more game time. who got more, cole or the guy that rolled the ball back to the qb? get mancz and put cole back in his proper spot.
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Post by UKcardinal on Aug 12, 2018 10:37:37 GMT -7
because mason cole wasn't playing 2nd string, where he was drafted to play this year. we need to sign a starting center who can protect rosen. you excuse was he needed more game time. who got more, cole or the guy that rolled the ball back to the qb? get mancz and put cole back in his proper spot. Are you an idiot? Serious question btw. Mason Cole is the starting center, ran with the 1st's and didn't have the time to do anything wrong (or right). But yet you are blaming him for Munyer's inability to play center and not being able to protect Josh Rosen in a pre-seaon game? Are you being serious here or are you just trolling and I have bit hook line and sinker? |
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Post by rdo3 on Aug 12, 2018 11:00:45 GMT -7
moving the goal posts I see. if aq was healthy cole is on the bench. he's a back up. you were against signing a vet because you claimed coled needed all the snaps. now you say hes a starter and doesn't need the snaps. which is it? the cards need to sign a real starter. cole got 6 snaps and was never tested. he will be tested in the real season, and if he gets burned there is currently no other option for the team. we need to sign the best free agent we can without cripiling the cap. if cole doesn't like it fine...he can go to another team in 4 years. but the cards need to take care of the team not just the backup center. we need a real starter.
is it coles fault he is starting? no. he shouldn't be starting his fault or not. since we have to sign someone we might as well sign someone better than him and let them start. other than denvers rfa all the other free agents are going to cost the same or more than the 2nd best free agent. the 2nd best free agent has started every game in a season and 2 play off games. he got the job done. he is not a maybe or a desevers a chance, he is a proven commodity. to not sign him over cole, well cutting cole today and e4liminating that problem would be a better idea. am I an idoot? am I the one that said to go with mason as the back up? am I the one that compained cole needed the snaps he didn't get and then try to use the fact I was 100% wrong to try to insult someone. your idiot is in your mirror. serious answer. you were against the real solution. perhaps frisco would be a better team for you to be a fan of, you will probably fit in there.
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Post by UKcardinal on Aug 12, 2018 11:18:22 GMT -7
So to answer that, yes you are an idiot.
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Post by rdo3 on Aug 12, 2018 11:24:21 GMT -7
explain anything to you is like trying to explain it to my ex wife. she was like you. just go back to your soccer, something simple enough for you to grasp and leave real sports for real men. and i'm sure you'll make someone a great wife someday, if you'll just learn to shut up and listen. or just shut up.
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Post by biggs on Aug 12, 2018 12:20:23 GMT -7
I got cole being drafted to be a backup from them drafting him despite having every intention of starting aq for the entire year as they were drafting him, hence drafting him to be aq's backup. now that aq isn't starting we still need another center. we might as well get a proven one. if cole is unsure of himself that is going to raise his injury risk. even if he is the starter we need a new backup, a cole for cole. if Bradford has to hike the ball to rosen or vice versa we are in serious trouble. we need another center, and since we have to get another one it should be a sure thing not a maybe for the maybe, because then we maybe screwed. i'n not saying to sign a bad vet. I did say don't get one that is gonna cost 10 mil a year and a 1st round pick to get when the next best will cost 1.4 mil a year and a 7th round pick tops and maybe not cost any picks. the #1 free agent is maybe 15% better than the #2 but costs about 1200% more so #2 is the better investment. he wont be blowing thru a lineman and using him to put a line backer on his ass to open a huge running lane up the middle, but he wont be getting run over or around by the lineman either. he will keep his backs protected, both quarter and half, until they cross the line of scrimmage. AQ up until this year has been durable. He's also been a backup quality center starting in the middle of our line for 2 years. Shipley has always been either a backup or practice squad center up until we were forced to start him. He was the last center drafted in the 2009 draft in round 7. He was waived and signed to Pittsburgh's practice squad and picked up on waivers by the Eagles. They waived him and signed him to the practice squad. In 2012 he competed and lost the job to Samson Satele. The next year Shipley was traded to Baltimore for a 7th round pick to compete for the job vacated by Matt Birk retiring. He lost the competition got some starts due to injury and was waived the next year. The Colts picked him up when their starting center went down and he started 4 games before being demoted for rookie Jonathan Harrison. I don't buy into the argument that Cole was drafted to sit for a year behind a journeyman backup center in Shipley. I think he was drafted to compete and win the position. That said there is no question we need another center on the team who can spot start, start or backup Cole. AQ was a bad loss but lets stop pretending that AQ Shipley was a quality NFL starting center and Cole wasn't drafted to win the job outright at some point. It may not have been to start from day 1 but if he was a good pick, I'm sure they thought he would push Shipley in camp and take the job at some point this year. |
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Post by UKcardinal on Aug 12, 2018 15:33:38 GMT -7
Firstly
"explain anything to you is like trying to explain it to my ex wife. she was like you."
Inflatable?
"just go back to your soccer, something simple enough for you to grasp and leave real sports for real men."
Erm can you only like one sport at a time?
"and i'm sure you'll make someone a great wife someday, if you'll just learn to shut up and listen. or just shut up."
Nice bit of misogyny thrown in there, you old charmer.
"moving the goal posts I see. if aq was healthy cole is on the bench. he's a back up. you were against signing a vet because you claimed coled needed all the snaps. now you say hes a starter and doesn't need the snaps. which is it?"
I'll break it down because I know you struggle. AQ was the starter, he went down and Cole was promoted to being first team center. That means he runs with the first team. Again how is it his fault he has limited snaps because he was with the first team unit? Or is he meant to be playing first, second and third team snaps at center just to satisfy you?
"the cards need to sign a real starter. cole got 6 snaps and was never tested. he will be tested in the real season, and if he gets burned there is currently no other option for the team."
So you want to sign a vet center to start in case Cole gets burned in the real season. What if the vet center gets burned? Do we just keep signing journeymen vet centers till one we hit the winning lottery ticket? Or maybe, just maybe, Cole comes in, does a solid job and goes on to be our center of the future? Sure go ahead and sign a vet center, let him compete for the starting job with Cole. But to totally dismiss Cole, in your opinion, based on nothing other than being a rookie who was only drafted to be a backup (that bit you made up, remember?), is pretty disrespectful to him and his talent.
The rest of your post you just waffle on about cutting a 3rd round rookie we just signed and I can't be bothered to cut through that dross. Anyway, enjoy the rest of your day.
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