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Post by CardSunsCard on Oct 9, 2024 16:34:08 GMT -7
When the Cardinals struggle, my first criticism is toward the lack of an inside running game and a lack of quality run blocking. That's where the fans' focus needs to be. Too much is placed on Kyler Murray. They fail to realize that any good QB will struggle when you can't run the ball and provide protection.
I think it would be hard for anyone to claim lack of run game or poor OL play are the reason for struggles this year. Our run game and OL are more than adequate. Connor is one of the best and up until Hernandez got hurt, our offense had everything it needed given Beachum was doing a serviceable job. This is why I point to Murray being a 0.500 QB. A few of us have honest disagreement over how good he actually is and some like to toss out stats they paint a rosier or gloomier picture depending on their personal bias. I for one don't think he's as good as those still saying he's top 7 QB. Do I think he's below average? Of course not. I think he's more like #12 when one considers stuff like leadership, mental acuity and other non physical traits. I certainly don't see him as the type of elevates others' games and he still tosses into double coverage far too often. If we had a better defense we'd definitely end the season at 0.500 or better, especially given the Rams/Niners have major injury issues. And now with Hulk out, we've joined them since his loss will likely be felt a lot more than losing our RT since we at least had Beachum to backfill. IMO, Murray has the physical tools to be a top-5 QB, I just don't think he's got the sharpest mind, which I've been consistent about since get go. While I'm giving him the rest of the season to show me he's more than I think he is, the fact is we just don't have any real options to swap, regardless of how any of us feel. I'm also coming around to the notion that the Rams/Niners could potentially be beginning a multi-year down phase, and if that happens, we might be able to focus on defense and sneak in playoffs even with Murray, not just this year but next year as well. IMO, our absolute best option, for now, is to keep Murray but just don't guarantee his hold as the starter. Bring a veteran in next year and tell Murray he's going to have to compete. Then in 2026, if Manning comes out, you draft him or someone else if Murray/Vet didn't do much in 2025. This plan would require the boss man, and fans, to cut coach a lot of slack for pushing forward when he never got to choose his own QB. We have to give him, at minimum, at least one year to play things out with a QB of coach's choosing. (Vet that is.) That's the other reason for going Vet route. If coach drafts a rookie QB who doesn't do much, then a potential new coach gets stuck with another QB he didn't choose. PS... When someone ragged on Murray as much as I have in past years still argues we are better off keeping him, I think it's a bit more meaningful than when homers argue the same. I feel the same about the coaching staff right now. We started a youth movement focused on developing younger dudes. That doesn't happen overnight and we need to let this process play out. I'm a lot happier watching younger guys develop than signing retreads like we did Suggs, and that's coming from someone who was also a major Suggs fan. Heck, my biggest issue with Murray is more he's not worth what he's paid. You can win Super Bowls with 0.500 talent QBs if they don't cost much. (ala... Dilfer) I could even be convinced to keep Murray, a bit longer term, IF, and only IF the dude would take a pay cut so we could field a dominant defense and add another stud WR. My biggest question concerning Murray was something someone posted about our OC maybe having to limit playbook and reducing play action. If that's actually true, that would change my attitude toward keeping him. |
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Post by vwvectors on Oct 9, 2024 17:11:41 GMT -7
This is only my opinion, but I get tired of people saying KM pouts when things go wrong. Did anyone see Purdy on the bench when he threw that interception. To me at least, he was showing the same type of emotions that people criticize KM for. Is he a pouter too? I'm not a psychologist, but I think too many make more out of this than what is necessary. What exactly is he supposed to do? Smile, yell at people, or jump up and down and say I can do better. Honestly, I don't know. The best answer is to blow it off and win the game....he and others did just that. Go Cards!!!! I've never understood the 'pouting' complaint. Of all the things to criticize it might be the most laughable. For starters, who knows what facial expressions mean. I have 'resting bastaxxx face' and it's heriditary. Brother and dad had it to. People assume we are angry when we are happy. Because apparently, if you don't smile, everyone things you're mad. And what makes us mad is idiots trying to tell us we feel the opposite of how we are actually feeling all because they judge us by their eyes. Reminds me of the old saying, "Feelings aren't facts." Thing is, no QB is going to be happy after tossing INTs, or losing. And I'd be a lot more upset if a QB was laughing on the sideline. The QB should be pissed off, and so maybe what some view as sulking is just how that person looks when pissed off. The only thing I would care about is if the QB isn't looking at film afterwards to see why they made a mistake. We didn't have ipads when I was a QB, but if it were me, I'd have gone to sideline afterwards, grabbed an iPad, skee daddled to a bench, by myself, and been looking at the previous play to see what I missed, if anything. What bothered me was teammates coming by patting me on shoulder cheering me on with "you'll get em next time." Most QBs just want to be left alone to blow of steam. Only caveat I can think of is if INT was caused by miscommunication where a WR ran a route different than what I expected them to run. If that happened, I'd want the WR responsible next to me so we could check the tape together. Point out why I saw what I did, or why they saw what they did. Discuss it and move on. But everyone else just needs to leave the QB alone. And not judge the QB for emotions he may not even feel. The only person other than a WR that has any room to even sit next to the QB is an offensive coordinator. Or captain of defense walking by, maybe saying, "no worries, we'll get the ball back for you." Latter is about the only thing any QB wants to hear. The pouting is bigger than you think. Instead of sulking & polluting the team with his negative waves how about having an attitude of determination (like Yoda that he likes & Yoda don’t pout). Instead of sitting there brooding by himself I (& many others) would like to see him looking at previous plays & communicating with his OC & receiving corp & showing professionalism & excellence like top QB’s in the league. |
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Post by Dry Heat on Oct 9, 2024 18:12:01 GMT -7
When the Cardinals struggle, my first criticism is toward the lack of an inside running game and a lack of quality run blocking. That's where the fans' focus needs to be. Too much is placed on Kyler Murray. They fail to realize that any good QB will struggle when you can't run the ball and provide protection.
I think it would be hard for anyone to claim lack of run game or poor OL play are the reason for struggles this year. Our run game and OL are more than adequate. Connor is one of the best and up until Hernandez got hurt, our offense had everything it needed given Beachum was doing a serviceable job. This is why I point to Murray being a 0.500 QB. A few of us have honest disagreement over how good he actually is and some like to toss out stats they paint a rosier or gloomier picture depending on their personal bias. I for one don't think he's as good as those still saying he's top 7 QB. Do I think he's below average? Of course not. I think he's more like #12 when one considers stuff like leadership, mental acuity and other non physical traits. I certainly don't see him as the type of elevates others' games and he still tosses into double coverage far too often. If we had a better defense we'd definitely end the season at 0.500 or better, especially given the Rams/Niners have major injury issues. And now with Hulk out, we've joined them since his loss will likely be felt a lot more than losing our RT since we at least had Beachum to backfill. IMO, Murray has the physical tools to be a top-5 QB, I just don't think he's got the sharpest mind, which I've been consistent about since get go. While I'm giving him the rest of the season to show me he's more than I think he is, the fact is we just don't have any real options to swap, regardless of how any of us feel. I'm also coming around to the notion that the Rams/Niners could potentially be beginning a multi-year down phase, and if that happens, we might be able to focus on defense and sneak in playoffs even with Murray, not just this year but next year as well. IMO, our absolute best option, for now, is to keep Murray but just don't guarantee his hold as the starter. Bring a veteran in next year and tell Murray he's going to have to compete. Then in 2026, if Manning comes out, you draft him or someone else if Murray/Vet didn't do much in 2025. This plan would require the boss man, and fans, to cut coach a lot of slack for pushing forward when he never got to choose his own QB. We have to give him, at minimum, at least one year to play things out with a QB of coach's choosing. (Vet that is.) That's the other reason for going Vet route. If coach drafts a rookie QB who doesn't do much, then a potential new coach gets stuck with another QB he didn't choose. PS... When someone ragged on Murray as much as I have in past years still argues we are better off keeping him, I think it's a bit more meaningful than when homers argue the same. I feel the same about the coaching staff right now. We started a youth movement focused on developing younger dudes. That doesn't happen overnight and we need to let this process play out. I'm a lot happier watching younger guys develop than signing retreads like we did Suggs, and that's coming from someone who was also a major Suggs fan. Heck, my biggest issue with Murray is more he's not worth what he's paid. You can win Super Bowls with 0.500 talent QBs if they don't cost much. (ala... Dilfer) I could even be convinced to keep Murray, a bit longer term, IF, and only IF the dude would take a pay cut so we could field a dominant defense and add another stud WR. My biggest question concerning Murray was something someone posted about our OC maybe having to limit playbook and reducing play action. If that's actually true, that would change my attitude toward keeping him. Our lines are not strengths of our 2024 Cardinals team. The Dline has been awful aside from two admirable 2nd half performances. They average a ranking of 27th in the NFL after 5 games, and we’ve lost two of our free agent Dline starters these last two weeks. We have Naquan Jones, who didn’t make this year’s roster originally, as a starter. DRob should return soon, but I don’t think the rookie is going to help our rating more than the loss of two vet starters is going to hurt. The Dline is what it is…poor overall starters, poor depth. Needs lots of work in 2025. The Oline has performed admirably but is ranked 22nd after five games, and just lost our right guard for the season. Paris is excellent, Froholdt continues to punch above his weight, and the rest are meh, with uncertain depth. Our run game stats must always be viewed in the context of many of our stats being skewed by one of the best running QB’s in NFL history. Connor is a beast, but a great Oline will make any RB look great. Our Oline isn’t making our other RBs look anything but average. |
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Post by Dry Heat on Oct 9, 2024 22:07:04 GMT -7
When the Cardinals struggle, my first criticism is toward the lack of an inside running game and a lack of quality run blocking. That's where the fans' focus needs to be. Too much is placed on Kyler Murray. They fail to realize that any good QB will struggle when you can't run the ball and provide protection.
A good QB will also struggle when its defense can’t get off the field, so their opportunities to score go down and they are often having to abandon the run game, become one-dimensional, and play catch-up. Kyler is top 10 right now, and was during his half season last year, all with a bottom feeding defense. Give him a defense (an even better Oline) and he will be top five. |
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Post by CardSunsCard on Oct 9, 2024 22:42:37 GMT -7
Our lines are not strengths of our 2024 Cardinals team. The Dline has been awful aside from two admirable 2nd half performances. They average a ranking of 27th in the NFL after 5 games, and we’ve lost two of our free agent Dline starters these last two weeks. We have Naquan Jones, who didn’t make this year’s roster originally, as a starter. DRob should return soon, but I don’t think the rookie is going to help our rating more than the loss of two vet starters is going to hurt. The Dline is what it is…poor overall starters, poor depth. Needs lots of work in 2025. The Oline has performed admirably but is ranked 22nd after five games, and just lost our right guard for the season. Paris is excellent, Froholdt continues to punch above his weight, and the rest are meh, with uncertain depth. Our run game stats must always be viewed in the context of many of our stats being skewed by one of the best running QB’s in NFL history. Connor is a beast, but a great Oline will make any RB look great. Our Oline isn’t making our other RBs look anything but average. Of course our DL sucks. I was the one complaining about it ad naseum before last draft when tons of others were prioritizing getting WRs. You've got to pick your poison. We made a conscious decision to ignore the DL unless you count a few cheap FA pick ups. Just out of curiosity, do you know where the OL ranked before HULK got hurt? And if we are going to argue Connor makes the OL look better than it does, wouldn't the same logic apply to The Beast making Kyler look better than he is since non-beast play would have hurt Kyler even more? |
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Post by Dry Heat on Oct 9, 2024 23:00:00 GMT -7
Our lines are not strengths of our 2024 Cardinals team. The Dline has been awful aside from two admirable 2nd half performances. They average a ranking of 27th in the NFL after 5 games, and we’ve lost two of our free agent Dline starters these last two weeks. We have Naquan Jones, who didn’t make this year’s roster originally, as a starter. DRob should return soon, but I don’t think the rookie is going to help our rating more than the loss of two vet starters is going to hurt. The Dline is what it is…poor overall starters, poor depth. Needs lots of work in 2025. The Oline has performed admirably but is ranked 22nd after five games, and just lost our right guard for the season. Paris is excellent, Froholdt continues to punch above his weight, and the rest are meh, with uncertain depth. Our run game stats must always be viewed in the context of many of our stats being skewed by one of the best running QB’s in NFL history. Connor is a beast, but a great Oline will make any RB look great. Our Oline isn’t making our other RBs look anything but average. Of course our DL sucks. I was the one complaining about it ad naseum before last draft when tons of others were prioritizing getting WRs. You've got to pick your poison. We made a conscious decision to ignore the DL unless you count a few cheap FA pick ups. Just out of curiosity, do you know where the OL ranked before HULK got hurt? And if we are going to argue Connor makes the OL look better than it does, wouldn't the same logic apply to The Beast making Kyler look better than he is since non-beast play would have hurt Kyler even more? Conner does help Kyler do better. |
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Post by CardsFanQC on Oct 10, 2024 4:09:20 GMT -7
Obviously I don't look at coach's tape but I did hear something very perplexing on the JV podcast yesterday. Trey McBride is the #1 TE in terms of getting separation and MHJ is #2 amongst receivers. I remember someone posted last year that Dortch was #1 in the NFL getting separation. WHAT  ? This week I even "google-searched" about MHJ's 40 time or MPH as recorded in any of his college games as I started to worry him not running the 40 at neither the combine or OSU pro day was because he might be slower than scouts thought. However I found a link showing MHJ got up to 22.6 MPH in a game last year for Ohio State so speed is not a problem. So why on earth does the offense (other than first drive of the game) at times look so pedestrian if targets are getting good separation ? If above is true then the timing for when the ball comes out is far off -- tells me Petzing needs to dial up more boots/rollouts giving KM1 clear line of sight to hit the targets as they make their break away from a defender. |
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Post by devongent on Oct 12, 2024 1:02:09 GMT -7
PS... When someone ragged on Murray as much as I have in past years still argues we are better off keeping him, I think it's a bit more meaningful than when homers argue the same. I feel the same about the coaching staff right now. We started a youth movement focused on developing younger dudes. That doesn't happen overnight and we need to let this process play out. I'm a lot happier watching younger guys develop than signing retreads like we did Suggs, and that's coming from someone who was also a major Suggs fan. Heck, my biggest issue with Murray is more he's not worth what he's paid. You can win Super Bowls with 0.500 talent QBs if they don't cost much. (ala... Dilfer) I could even be convinced to keep Murray, a bit longer term, IF, and only IF the dude would take a pay cut so we could field a dominant defense and add another stud WR. My biggest question concerning Murray was something someone posted about our OC maybe having to limit playbook and reducing play action. If that's actually true, that would change my attitude toward keeping him. I agree with the thrust of what you are saying although in terms of Murray having to take a pay cut at some point then that will be determined by how he performs going forward and in context of the general drift upwards in pay. How long he remains in Arizona is an open question, but I don't see anything major happening for the next couple of season; that contract situation needs to play through and I don't personally want to 'return to go' and draft one high in the shorter term. A big investment has been made in Murray (for right or wrong) and the consequence from this is that Kyler will be here and 'playing to the best of his abilities'. He has done a ton of work since his injury and I believe its harsh to knock his desire and work ethic. This 'sitting alone on the side' argument (when things are going badly) is maybe just his way of trying to mentally work through and re-focus (every person is different). Murray's physical attributes are at the extreme ends of the spectrum; his shorter stature limits throwing options (so we have discovered), whereas his speed and running threat opens up possibilities that other QB's don't have. So, I don't consider it a matter of having to 'limit the playbook and reducing play action', rather a case of adapting and changing it to match his strengths. I don't consider myself to be a Kyler Murray homer, but then again I am not blindly jumping on any weaknesses and deficiencies after a bad game. No doubt it may be frustrating, but if Murray could do everything people want and still have his amazing speed and running threat, then he would surely be an absolute world-beater. Sadly I don't think he will achieve that, but he is still a dangerous opponent and teams have to adapt and be wary of him. - It's down to coaching staff and Kyler himself to come up with the solutions and put him in the best position to flourish (and the team to succeed). |
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Post by MT Diesel on Oct 12, 2024 8:41:03 GMT -7
I trust his peers and coaches in the NFL over people have made up in their mind that a small QB is trash. Not on this forum, but in many fan circles they jump on K1's size and it is fuel to try and discount the Cards chances of success based on his stature.
At the end of being out in a Cards pull over a guy in an attempt to knock the Cards the comment of them having a tiny QB makes them a bad team. It is low hanging fruit and it is the continual go to. As a Card fan I have this advice to other Card fans...embrace having unique players. The tiny QB, the big yet agile RB and a mostly unknown OL that perform well together.
There is something to the former GM being the source of many negative things K1.
I like some of the comments from the GB coaches this week...here is a snip from a Donnie Druin SI article:
“You’ve got to be smart when you’re going against a quarterback of this caliber in terms of he can make you look really silly really fast - and if you give him huge rush lanes, he’s going to take advantage of it. Like I said, he can beat you with his legs, he can beat you with his arm. I think he’s got a lot of talented players around him.
“I think they’re really doing a nice job, so it’s going to be a great test for our football team.”
Murray's averaging over ten yards per carry and has hit four "explosive" plays on the ground of 20+ yards or more.
It doesn't appear K1 is done...embrace the uniqueness of the Cardinals, it is easy being a bandwagon fan, I have more respect for fans who support their team and the team's players over those chasing the popular choice of the day. The GM and HC will make what they deem as needed changes in personnel and it appears the staff has K1's back.
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Post by Dry Heat on Oct 12, 2024 10:38:32 GMT -7
Kyler is one of our top three players by NFL position group in the entire NFL. This talk of Kyler being “done” is silly.
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Post by CardSunsCard on Oct 12, 2024 15:24:02 GMT -7
Kyler is one of our top three players by NFL position group in the entire NFL. This talk of Kyler being “done” is silly. Which is why I, one of his biggest critics, have even tried to point out we likely need to keep him. He's not done, I just don't think he's worth his salary. That's not even important to debate though. I DO think he needs competition. Part of Murray's issue, probably one greater than his stature, and one I brought up when he was drafted, is he NEVER played on a bad team (not even in junior high. He's always had all pros around him). I'm always leery of the those guys because you don't know if they'll mentally fold or elevate others. For the last year or two, Murray is facing true adversity for the first time in his life. No one knows how he will come out of it, but he does need some time to see if he can ride it out. If he doesn't he's gone. If he does, he may end up a better player than most his CRITICS thought. I still haven't seen anyone answer the question about his mind limiting the playbook as one author opined. If that's true, that's what did Vince Young in. Overly simple offenses are too easy to game plan against once playoff time rolls around. My question for others to consider is this. 1. What have you seen Murray improve on this year? Don't cite anything like completion percentage which could be arbitrarily skewed by throwing more short passes. Give me some stuff to be positive on such as, is he going through progressions or still locking on to targets and tossing in double coverage. OR.... is he throwing the ball away more in 3rd and longs when everyone is covered vs. forcing bad passes. Is he making throws he used to not make? Even something small like.... is he making better adjustments on audibles at scrimmage? I haven't investigated any of those little things, but those are the important things that tell you if your QB is still making progress regardless of the record. I'm not rushing to say let's draft a high QB next year, but I am looking at some guys that might go later. Someone like maybe McNamara from Iowa, who transferred from Michigan. Iowa runs a pro style offense. One of the few college teams to do so. I feel like he could be low risk-high reward competition for Murray. |
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Post by Dry Heat on Oct 12, 2024 16:00:06 GMT -7
Kyler is one of our top three players by NFL position group in the entire NFL. This talk of Kyler being “done” is silly. Which is why I, one of his biggest critics, have even tried to point out we likely need to keep him. He's not done, I just don't think he's worth his salary. That's not even important to debate though. I DO think he needs competition. Part of Murray's issue, probably one greater than his stature, and one I brought up when he was drafted, is he NEVER played on a bad team (not even in junior high. He's always had all pros around him). I'm always leery of the those guys because you don't know if they'll mentally fold or elevate others. For the last year or two, Murray is facing true adversity for the first time in his life. No one knows how he will come out of it, but he does need some time to see if he can ride it out. If he doesn't he's gone. If he does, he may end up a better player than most his CRITICS thought. I still haven't seen anyone answer the question about his mind limiting the playbook as one author opined. If that's true, that's what did Vince Young in. Overly simple offenses are too easy to game plan against once playoff time rolls around. My question for others to consider is this. 1. What have you seen Murray improve on this year? Don't cite anything like completion percentage which could be arbitrarily skewed by throwing more short passes. Give me some stuff to be positive on such as, is he going through progressions or still locking on to targets and tossing in double coverage. OR.... is he throwing the ball away more in 3rd and longs when everyone is covered vs. forcing bad passes. Is he making throws he used to not make? Even something small like.... is he making better adjustments on audibles at scrimmage? I haven't investigated any of those little things, but those are the important things that tell you if your QB is still making progress regardless of the record. I'm not rushing to say let's draft a high QB next year, but I am looking at some guys that might go later. Someone like maybe McNamara from Iowa, who transferred from Michigan. Iowa runs a pro style offense. One of the few college teams to do so. I feel like he could be low risk-high reward competition for Murray. Hey I’m a Kyler defender, but I also wanted to draft either Jayden Daniels with our later 1st rounder (when folks were calling him a 2nd round pick) or possibly Bo Nix with our 2nd. I think you should always be bringing in QB talent and challenging the QB1. Kyler Murray has a higher PFF than all the rookies, even Jayden by a smidge. Caleb and Bo by 25 points. I said Jayden would be perfect as a 2024 backup and then 2025 challenger for the starting role, and in 2025 we could begin to reasonably trade away Kyler and his contract. Im a realist about QB’s (and generally everything in life…people who know me definitely know). 1) Kyler isn’t perfect. 2) Kyler is probably top 10. 3) You have a young, top 10 QB1 in this NFL you better count yourself blessed and build the rest of the roster. |
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Post by Dry Heat on Oct 12, 2024 16:10:04 GMT -7
Kyler is one of our top three players by NFL position group in the entire NFL. This talk of Kyler being “done” is silly. Which is why I, one of his biggest critics, have even tried to point out we likely need to keep him. He's not done, I just don't think he's worth his salary. That's not even important to debate though. I DO think he needs competition. Part of Murray's issue, probably one greater than his stature, and one I brought up when he was drafted, is he NEVER played on a bad team (not even in junior high. He's always had all pros around him). I'm always leery of the those guys because you don't know if they'll mentally fold or elevate others. For the last year or two, Murray is facing true adversity for the first time in his life. No one knows how he will come out of it, but he does need some time to see if he can ride it out. If he doesn't he's gone. If he does, he may end up a better player than most his CRITICS thought. I still haven't seen anyone answer the question about his mind limiting the playbook as one author opined. If that's true, that's what did Vince Young in. Overly simple offenses are too easy to game plan against once playoff time rolls around. My question for others to consider is this. 1. What have you seen Murray improve on this year? Don't cite anything like completion percentage which could be arbitrarily skewed by throwing more short passes. Give me some stuff to be positive on such as, is he going through progressions or still locking on to targets and tossing in double coverage. OR.... is he throwing the ball away more in 3rd and longs when everyone is covered vs. forcing bad passes. Is he making throws he used to not make? Even something small like.... is he making better adjustments on audibles at scrimmage? I haven't investigated any of those little things, but those are the important things that tell you if your QB is still making progress regardless of the record. I'm not rushing to say let's draft a high QB next year, but I am looking at some guys that might go later. Someone like maybe McNamara from Iowa, who transferred from Michigan. Iowa runs a pro style offense. One of the few college teams to do so. I feel like he could be low risk-high reward competition for Murray. 's%20deep%20ball%20accuracy%20took,the%20case%20much%20in%202024. www.si.com/nfl/kyler-murray-becoming-player-cardinals-believed-he-would-begophnx.com/arizona-cardinals-kyler-murray-is-top-qb-in-nfc-west-over-brock-purdy-geno-smith-matthew-stafford/I would say he IS going through progressions better, has the best TD/INT percentage of his career here, is doing better at taking the easy yards when given, and has been accurate on long passes which he had struggled with for about a year before his injury (also didn’t have much deep WR help). Kurt Warner seems to agree. |
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Post by RedCards on Oct 12, 2024 18:29:43 GMT -7
I'm sticking with The man cant see past the line unless he scrambles out of the pocket . Yes he can hit a flea when he has a clear line of sight. So were stuck with a QB/Running back to make the connection to a rec .Is it enough to say toss his butt ? IDK ...I think it comes down to can we be successful enough to keep the fan base happy and a huge dollar sign contract their stuck with . So with that in mind lets see how far we get with what we got is my call. Go Cardinals !
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Post by Dry Heat on Oct 12, 2024 19:34:49 GMT -7
I'm sticking with The man cant see past the line unless he scrambles out of the pocket . Yes he can hit a flea when he has a clear line of sight. So were stuck with a QB/Running back to make the connection to a rec .Is it enough to say toss his butt ? IDK ...I think it comes down to can we be successful enough to keep the fan base happy and a huge dollar sign contract they’re stuck with . So with that in mind let’s see how far we get with what we got is my call. Go Cardinals ! This is what I don’t understand. I think everyone here agrees Kyler’s height does affect his line of sight. Ok! His stature also helps his scrambling ability and his speed. So, like every person ever born, he is not 100% perfect. Yet with his stature, he plays better than about 22 other starting NFL QBs. So is it a critical flaw that results in a zero percent chance of leading a team to a Super Bowl? It didn’t stop him from getting to the big game in college. I’ll be concerned if he starts looking like a 20-25th best QB in the NFL without signs of improvement. We have much, much bigger issues. |
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