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Post by End Zone on Mar 22, 2024 3:43:19 GMT -7
He has been wrong many times gets him clicks. At least he, Simms, was there at the combine actually watching the workouts. Marvin skipped his combine and his OSU pro day. Harrison definitely has 'Diva' written all over him.The change of Harrison's behavior is not accidental. He skipped a pro day and dodged media opportunities. These events are very easy 'asks' for a future premier NFL WR. If he dodges more microphones at NFL events after he signs a rookie contract, the NFL fines will begin and get bigger over time. I haven't enough information to judge Harrison a true blue 'Diva.' That's a different category of prima donna altogether. He's already falling farther down my WR draft list because of competition. If attitude issues persist, I might not have any interest in him at all. We don't want an Antonio Brown type on the Cardinals team.
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Post by End Zone on Mar 22, 2024 3:47:45 GMT -7
Thanks for the highlight video on WR Thomas. First, he's as special as Harrison, perhaps an equal in skill. Second, what about Thomas' work ethic? Much has been said about Harrison's preparation and intelligence. Does Thomas equal Harrison off the field? About comparing Thomas to Samuels, that's your judgment call. Maybe you see something in Thomas that I didn't see. Samuels scares the hell out of defensive backfields. He's the axe man of WRs. He'll tear up a defender one on one. Thomas on the other hand, appears to be thinner and less physical--based solely on the 5-min highlights video. Regarding the video, are there other videos that show us "normal Thomas?", those games where he had to fight for a ball and lost? Lastly thanks for another video about QB Daniels. I saw some alarming things. He's not accurate. NFL defenders are going to eat Daniels lunch if he doesn't clean up those wild passes. Daniels has a higher completion % (72.2) than Williams, Maye or Penix Jr. Only Bo Nix of the top six QBs is higher. In addition, his 11.7 avg yards is by FAR the best of ALL college QBs. That average plus that completion percentage resulted in his incredible passing yardage and top QBR of 208. You need to watch a lot more film my friend! As far as Nabers and Thomas…we should all be careful of the chicken or egg question with these WRs and this QB. Did the QB make the WR’s or the WR’s make the QB? Or all all three studs? I do need to watch more Daniels' film. My comment about his accuracy was based on the highlight film, where WRs were bailing out Daniels' under-throws. The receptions was made nonetheless, pushing Daniels' completion percentage upward. I'm okay standing firm on Daniels accuracy issues at LSU. He has to do better though at the next level.
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Post by Redbirdfan62 on Mar 22, 2024 9:09:47 GMT -7
He has been wrong many times gets him clicks. At least he, Simms, was there at the combine actually watching the workouts. Marvin skipped his combine and his OSU pro day. Harrison definitely has 'Diva' written all over him. This is a business decision and he is protecting himself from Injury his right. There is plenty of tape out there on the kid to know what he is and what he can do,what does he have to prove ? I have watched a lot on this kid nothing I have seen or read that suggests he is a Diva except someone saying it. I think the kid knows he is going early and doesn't have anything to prove and that really is the point of the Underwear olympics. He had his time with the Cardinals so they either take him or not or they trade down. All I know is the kid will go early and he made a business decision, I don't fault him for that.
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Post by knobby on Mar 22, 2024 10:37:43 GMT -7
At least he, Simms, was there at the combine actually watching the workouts. Marvin skipped his combine and his OSU pro day. Harrison definitely has 'Diva' written all over him. This is a business decision and he is protecting himself from Injury his right. There is plenty of tape out there on the kid to know what he is and what he can do,what does he have to prove ? I have watched a lot on this kid nothing I have seen or read that suggests he is a Diva except someone saying it. I think the kid knows he is going early and doesn't have anything to prove and that really is the point of the Underwear olympics. He had his time with the Cardinals so they either take him or not or they trade down. All I know is the kid will go early and he made a business decision, I don't fault him for that.
It makes one wonder though whether making "business decisions" will carry over in his pro play or not. We have had a bit of experience with that - PP for example, with his reluctance to make tackles.
Another potential concern is whether MH jr's dad, who is said to be advising him, might also advise things contrary to what the Cardinals would want. I have wondered if Kyler may have had some of that in his early time with the Cardinals from his father, and whether it was reflected in how KM (and Kingsbury) performed.
Likely or not in this case, it deserves consideration before draft decisions are made.
IMHO
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Post by CardsFanQC on Mar 22, 2024 10:58:32 GMT -7
JJ McCarthy "line" of being the 4th pick of the NFL draft has moved from + 500 down to + 200 in about 5 days.
Would the Vikings really have done the trade with the Texans (to pick up #23) without having some assurances from either the Pats or Cardinals of genuine interest in a trade up package to move up to #3 or #4 ?
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Post by Redbirdfan62 on Mar 22, 2024 11:06:52 GMT -7
This is a business decision and he is protecting himself from Injury his right. There is plenty of tape out there on the kid to know what he is and what he can do,what does he have to prove ? I have watched a lot on this kid nothing I have seen or read that suggests he is a Diva except someone saying it. I think the kid knows he is going early and doesn't have anything to prove and that really is the point of the Underwear olympics. He had his time with the Cardinals so they either take him or not or they trade down. All I know is the kid will go early and he made a business decision, I don't fault him for that.
It makes one wonder though whether making "business decisions" will carry over in his pro play or not. We have had a bit of experience with that - PP for example, with his reluctance to make tackles.
Another potential concern is whether MH jr's dad, who is said to be advising him, might also advise things contrary to what the Cardinals would want. I have wondered if Kyler may have had some of that in his early time with the Cardinals from his father, and whether it was reflected in how KM (and Kingsbury) performed.
Likely or not in this case, it deserves consideration before draft decisions are made.
IMHO
I would have liked to have seen him work out but really if I have done my homework on the kid I know what he is and what he has done. When I have hired people in the past I had a lot less data then these Gm's have and with every hire there is risk a guy running around and doing things in their underwear is not gonna affect my decision on the person that I have come to know in my research. Monti and coach said it doesn't affect their view of him and even said they can respect his choice. I guess I will have to trust that since I am not the guy making the hire I will trust the guy's that are making hire if they do so.
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Post by Redbirdfan62 on Mar 22, 2024 11:08:51 GMT -7
JJ McCarthy "line" of being the 4th pick of the NFL draft has moved from + 500 down to + 200 in about 5 days. Would the Vikings really have done the trade with the Texans (to pick up #23) without having some assurances from either the Pats or Cardinals of genuine interest in a trade up package to move up to #3 or #4 ? All that talk about the top three they absolutely are taking Qb they are not moving it doesn't make any since for the top three to move.
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Post by cbltv on Mar 22, 2024 11:29:09 GMT -7
Chris Simms defends his WR draft prospect rankings on PFT. He has been wrong many times gets him clicks. This is so generic a statement Rbf62. You can apply it to All other Prognosticators as well. Got to have a better reason for nay saying my friend. I found this clip informational. Gives reason to rethink the mainstream "we gotta have MHJ". The #2 WR on his list is more of what the cards need. And they can get him easily if they so desire. Even if they want to trade down a couple spots. More food for thought. EDIT: 1 last thing that was a negative for me was MHJ skipping the Sugar Bowl match against Mizzou. If MHJ had played and Ohio St still would've lost vs Mizzou would you all be so high on MHJ still? I bet not. Now if he had played with Ohio states back up QB (cause the reg season OS QB transferred) and Ohio State had beaten Mizzou then I could be on board with the prevailing sentiment of yes MHJ has to be or guy. BUT he did not, so MHJ to me is not as sure a thing as others have declared him to be.
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Post by Redbirdfan62 on Mar 22, 2024 11:36:19 GMT -7
He has been wrong many times gets him clicks. This is so generic a statement Rbf62. You can apply it to All other Prognosticators as well. Got to have a better reason for nay saying my friend. I found this clip informational. Gives reason to rethink the mainstream "we gotta have MHJ". The #2 WR on his list is more of what the cards need. And they can get him easily if they so desire. Even if they want to trade down a couple spots. More food for thought. Ok too generic for you ok, how bout this "Opinions are like" you fill in the blanks lol Pay attention to pick 4
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Post by CardsFanQC on Mar 22, 2024 12:10:24 GMT -7
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Post by cardinalsins on Mar 22, 2024 13:40:12 GMT -7
He has been wrong many times gets him clicks. At least he, Simms, was there at the combine actually watching the workouts. Marvin skipped his combine and his OSU pro day. Harrison definitely has 'Diva' written all over him.
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Post by CardsFanQC on Mar 22, 2024 15:27:50 GMT -7
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Post by Dry Heat on Mar 22, 2024 15:51:33 GMT -7
115 QB-needy team representatives there, and he did well. The QB tax just went UP!
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Post by knobby on Mar 22, 2024 18:38:47 GMT -7
At least he, Simms, was there at the combine actually watching the workouts. Marvin skipped his combine and his OSU pro day. Harrison definitely has 'Diva' written all over him. (film clips deleted for brevity) None of those clips change my feeling that something is not quite right. Even with Covid having taken smell and taste away, there is a lingering odor coming from somewhere in the MHJr camp. MH Sr. saying, "we" decided... Jr. saying he has been training and "resting", while his body language says he wants to avoid looking the interviewer square in the eyes ... Not important? Grasping at straws? conjecture? To be determined. IMHO
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Post by Dry Heat on Mar 22, 2024 19:05:00 GMT -7
(film clips deleted for brevity) None of those clips change my feeling that something is not quite right. Even with Covid having taken smell and taste away, there is a lingering odor coming from somewhere in the MHJr camp. MH Sr. saying, "we" decided... Jr. saying he has been training and "resting", while his body language says he wants to avoid looking the interviewer square in the eyes ... Not important? Grasping at straws? conjecture? To be determined. IMHO I didn’t have an issue with MHJ being cautious about injury by participating in drills meant to push the limits (which is a way injuries happen) so long as he participated in mental tests, met with teams, did interviews, medical, etc. His tape shows he’s a stud and players and coaches he’s been around haven’t said anything but good about him. If anyone has something negative, please link. There is talk about him being a quiet guy, but also a guy who despite being quiet seemed to have leadership that attracted others to work out with him early mornings. I do confess some small concern about dad’s involvement and a sense there are some control issues there. That can be a good thing, as MH Sr is a peak NFL professional mentor. But we’ve all seen family can be an issue as well. He’s clearly following dad’s advice. Let’s hope that advice is good and eventually team-centered for whoever he plays for. My biggest concern is that his name nudges him up to the “generational player” level when I see a few other WR’s who are darn impressive pushed down a tier for reasons I have not yet had explained to me.
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