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Post by CrazyCanuck on May 18, 2018 8:36:08 GMT -7
The 3 spot is valuable. We need a starting QB and a backup. Glennon is a player who is cheap and could be a viable backup QB for a very long time. Now that we secured Rosen and he is proving he may be able to start we no longer need Bradford on the roster. We should put him on the practice squad and move him for a pick the way Philadelphia did when it was clear Wentz was going to play. We aren't getting a 1 for Bradford but that's not why Philadelphia moved him. He wasn't part of their plan going forward. Bradford is at best a short term play and at worst a disgruntled veteran who will be a problem if he is beat out by Rosen. Give the kid all the reps and move on. We hit a home run in the draft, don't turn it into a single. Bradford has a no trade clause. |
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Post by Redbirdfan62 on May 18, 2018 8:43:48 GMT -7
The 3 spot is valuable. We need a starting QB and a backup. Glennon is a player who is cheap and could be a viable backup QB for a very long time. Now that we secured Rosen and he is proving he may be able to start we no longer need Bradford on the roster. We should put him on the practice squad and move him for a pick the way Philadelphia did when it was clear Wentz was going to play. We aren't getting a 1 for Bradford but that's not why Philadelphia moved him. He wasn't part of their plan going forward. Bradford is at best a short term play and at worst a disgruntled veteran who will be a problem if he is beat out by Rosen. Give the kid all the reps and move on. We hit a home run in the draft, don't turn it into a single. Bradford has a no trade clause. Yep he sure does. |
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Post by belac44 on May 18, 2018 9:06:49 GMT -7
Idk, maybe Rosen is playing well before then and he could use some playoff experience??.... who knows what could happen but it doesn't hurt to have a #3qb that would be a #2 on most teams... we aren't losing much on him now except a roster spot. A very valuable roster spot. The odds of the #3 QB seeing the field are nil. Mike Glennon is not winning the superbowl. If Bradford and Rosen go down, then 100% thats fate saying plan for 2019. There is zero positive reasons to have a #3 QB. It doesnt help our present and can only hurt our future. The Phx Suns just got the #1 pick and in all likelihood Deandre Ayton, a HOF caliber and franchise changing talent. Had they kept fighting at the end of a lost season and won 1 or 2 worthless games, we'd be sitting here with nothing to be happy about. Instead, all of phoenix is electrified and excited. Sometimes you gotta know when to hold em knoooow when to fold em know when to walk away, know when to run you never' count your mun'a when yer sittin' at the taableee Did 3rd string see field last year? Saying the odds are Nil is just not accurate. You are so concerned with one player in front of number 3’s injury issues and I am pretty sure you mentioned Rosen injuries as well. Sadly, odds are pretty good Rosen and Glennon could see some action. |
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Post by Zaz on May 18, 2018 9:11:01 GMT -7
A very valuable roster spot. The odds of the #3 QB seeing the field are nil. Mike Glennon is not winning the superbowl. If Bradford and Rosen go down, then 100% thats fate saying plan for 2019. There is zero positive reasons to have a #3 QB. It doesnt help our present and can only hurt our future. The Phx Suns just got the #1 pick and in all likelihood Deandre Ayton, a HOF caliber and franchise changing talent. Had they kept fighting at the end of a lost season and won 1 or 2 worthless games, we'd be sitting here with nothing to be happy about. Instead, all of phoenix is electrified and excited. Sometimes you gotta know when to hold em knoooow when to fold em know when to walk away, know when to run you never' count your mun'a when yer sittin' at the taableee Did 3rd string see field last year? Saying the odds are Nil is just not accurate. You are so concerned with one player in front of number 3’s injury issues and I am pretty sure you mentioned Rosen injuries as well. Sadly, odds are pretty good Rosen and Glennon could see some action. Yeah #3 did see the field, and what was our record? What are you trying to accomplish by having a #3 QB? A couple extra pointless wins? Why? All youre doing is hurting Rosens future by losing us top ranked OLs and WRs in the draft. (ive said this 11 times now) If Bradford and Rosen go down thats fate telling you to pack it up. |
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Post by Boomer on May 18, 2018 9:19:52 GMT -7
All this conversation about having a competent 3rd stringer is asinine. The team will be neck deep in fecal matter if this scenario ever pans out regardless of who we have under center.
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Post by belac44 on May 18, 2018 9:36:23 GMT -7
Did 3rd string see field last year? Saying the odds are Nil is just not accurate. You are so concerned with one player in front of number 3’s injury issues and I am pretty sure you mentioned Rosen injuries as well. Sadly, odds are pretty good Rosen and Glennon could see some action. Yeah #3 did see the field, and what was our record? What are you trying to accomplish by having a #3 QB? A couple extra pointless wins? Why? All youre doing is hurting Rosens future by losing us top ranked OLs and WRs in the draft. (ive said this 11 times now) If Bradford and Rosen go down thats fate telling you to pack it up. That is not the point. In your typical fashion you are trying to take what was said and spin into something else. You can think the season is over if 3rd string is playing, I wont argue that. You said the chance 3rd string sees the field is NIL. That means you are saying it would never happen. That is just not accurate, it has happened quite a few times with this team in recent years. |
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Post by beaverhuntr on May 18, 2018 11:10:24 GMT -7
All this conversation about having a competent 3rd stringer is asinine. The team will be neck deep in fecal matter if this scenario ever pans out regardless of who we have under center. Can we cuss here? LOL? |
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Post by jeffcardinalfan on May 18, 2018 12:06:19 GMT -7
anybody know who the 4rth (emergency) qb is? larry?
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Post by biggs on May 18, 2018 12:16:30 GMT -7
Bradford has a no trade clause. Yep he sure does. |
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Post by biggs on May 18, 2018 12:23:58 GMT -7
The 3 spot is valuable. We need a starting QB and a backup. Glennon is a player who is cheap and could be a viable backup QB for a very long time. Now that we secured Rosen and he is proving he may be able to start we no longer need Bradford on the roster. We should put him on the practice squad and move him for a pick the way Philadelphia did when it was clear Wentz was going to play. We aren't getting a 1 for Bradford but that's not why Philadelphia moved him. He wasn't part of their plan going forward. Bradford is at best a short term play and at worst a disgruntled veteran who will be a problem if he is beat out by Rosen. Give the kid all the reps and move on. We hit a home run in the draft, don't turn it into a single. Bradford has a no trade clause. Yup but he also has 5 million of his salary tied up in bonuses based on playing time. If he is beaten out in training camp he can't earn 5 million on his contract. He got 10 million to sign and he will earn 5 million in salary just sitting on the bench. He earns an additional 5 million in pro rated playing time if he starts. If he's beaten out in TC he effectively would lose 5 million in bonus written into the contract. Instead of 20 million he can make as a starter he makes 15 million riding the bench. He could conceivable pick up that 5 million plus from another team that losses their starter. It's that or he sits on the bench and gets cut the following year. |
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Post by Dry Heat on May 18, 2018 13:20:45 GMT -7
Did 3rd string see field last year? Saying the odds are Nil is just not accurate. You are so concerned with one player in front of number 3’s injury issues and I am pretty sure you mentioned Rosen injuries as well. Sadly, odds are pretty good Rosen and Glennon could see some action. Yeah #3 did see the field, and what was our record? What are you trying to accomplish by having a #3 QB? A couple extra pointless wins? Why? All youre doing is hurting Rosens future by losing us top ranked OLs and WRs in the draft. (ive said this 11 times now) If Bradford and Rosen go down thats fate telling you to pack it up. Zaz I believe our record with our #2 and #3 QBs was better than that with our #1. And this #3 QB will be our #2 QB in 2019, and a better one than Stanton or Gabbert ever would have been. |
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Post by r1ppedcardfan on May 18, 2018 13:45:28 GMT -7
Did 3rd string see field last year? Saying the odds are Nil is just not accurate. You are so concerned with one player in front of number 3’s injury issues and I am pretty sure you mentioned Rosen injuries as well. Sadly, odds are pretty good Rosen and Glennon could see some action. Yeah #3 did see the field, and what was our record? What are you trying to accomplish by having a #3 QB? A couple extra pointless wins? Why? All youre doing is hurting Rosens future by losing us top ranked OLs and WRs in the draft. (ive said this 11 times now) If Bradford and Rosen go down thats fate telling you to pack it up. Just because a 3rd stringer is on the field, doesn't mean the other 2 guys are on IR and done for the season. Like I said, maybe 1 of the guys is on IR and maybe one has to miss a few games or even just a few plays. We could still be in contention with this scenario and I would rather not have our third stringer lose a game or games for us. |
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Post by Zaz on May 18, 2018 13:51:51 GMT -7
Yeah #3 did see the field, and what was our record? What are you trying to accomplish by having a #3 QB? A couple extra pointless wins? Why? All youre doing is hurting Rosens future by losing us top ranked OLs and WRs in the draft. (ive said this 11 times now) If Bradford and Rosen go down thats fate telling you to pack it up. Just because a 3rd stringer is on the field, doesn't mean the other 2 guys are on IR and done for the season. Like I said, maybe 1 of the guys is on IR and maybe one has to miss a few games or even just a few plays. We could still be in contention with this scenario and I would rather not have our third stringer lose a game or games for us. The specificity of that scenario is why I dont consider it. Plan for the probable. Not the 1 in a million. If Bradford and Rosen both go down, sign the nobody off our PS. Have him come up, feed David the ball 50x per game. No reason to keep Glennon as #3 while Bradford and Rosen are healthy. |
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Post by r1ppedcardfan on May 18, 2018 14:11:48 GMT -7
[/quote]The specificity of that scenario is why I dont consider it. Plan for the probable. Not the 1 in a million.
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As a Cardinals fan you should know that the chances are much greater than 1 in a million... if we could save a bunch of money by cutting Glennon then I would say do it. But chances are that Glennon could be our future #2 and Bradford will be cut once Rosen is our established starter(hopefully).
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Post by CrazyCanuck on May 18, 2018 16:40:23 GMT -7
Just because a 3rd stringer is on the field, doesn't mean the other 2 guys are on IR and done for the season. Like I said, maybe 1 of the guys is on IR and maybe one has to miss a few games or even just a few plays. We could still be in contention with this scenario and I would rather not have our third stringer lose a game or games for us. The specificity of that scenario is why I dont consider it. Plan for the probable. Not the 1 in a million. If Bradford and Rosen both go down, sign the nobody off our PS. Have him come up, feed David the ball 50x per game. No reason to keep Glennon as #3 while Bradford and Rosen are healthy. Glennon is under control and the longer term backup. He's not going anywhere. |
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