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Post by TDACKTAL on Oct 3, 2018 6:30:11 GMT -7
1.I am tired of rentals for one year. 2.I am tired of the busts in the first round. 3.I am tired of the small school talent trying to compete with blue chippers. 4.I am tired of small undersized players. 5.The linebacker corps not enough talent. 6.Oline SK has tried several things and still a failure in that area. 7. Why didn't he address the Wr corp before your hall of famer retire's maybe a little sooner then Kirk ? I want a GM that builds something and tries to keep it together or replenish what you are gonna lose. Yeah he has done some good things but not enough to justify him to continue on as the GM. I hope MB is actively looking for his replacement as well as this coaching staff. I think we need to clear out a lot of these players and draft better and bring guy's not on one year deal's and let them walk and no more over the hill players we need studs not duds. Sorry I have been just little bit mad with SK and on down. #7 He did with Floyd, Smoke and Jaron. If I recall we were considered one of the deeper WR units in the NFL just a few short years ago. We all know what happened to those guys tho. Jaron, I really like that guy and glad he's having success in Seattle. Smoke couldn't stay healthy. Or, our staff did a piss poor job at helping him manage his disease cause he looks great this year. Floyd beat Keim in a drinking contest. |
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Post by itancanwa on Oct 3, 2018 7:21:42 GMT -7
Niche is a top 5 D lineman in the NFL......  ...Just where did you come up with that ? The guy probably wouldn't start for half the teams.
Humph is nothing special as a LT. Average at best.
Riddick is not ready to be a LB. Might never be a decent LB. It's not easy to change from being a down lineman to a LB. Most fail or if anything they are just ok.
D Buck is getting creamed as he was last year. Way to small and can't disengage.
Other than DJ, SK hasn't drafted 1 player who made the pro bowl other than Special teams. And DJ was an after thought. SK wanted some guy the Lions drafted before it was the Cards turn, and he isn't very good. So in a way SK lucked out with DJ.
So you tell me and show me where SK has done even OK with his drafts. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2018 8:30:31 GMT -7
Niche is a top 5 D lineman in the NFL......  ...Just where did you come up with that ? The guy probably wouldn't start for half the teams.
Humph is nothing special as a LT. Average at best.
Riddick is not ready to be a LB. Might never be a decent LB. It's not easy to change from being a down lineman to a LB. Most fail or if anything they are just ok.
D Buck is getting creamed as he was last year. Way to small and can't disengage.
Other than DJ, SK hasn't drafted 1 player who made the pro bowl other than Special teams. And DJ was an after thought. SK wanted some guy the Lions drafted before it was the Cards turn, and he isn't very good. So in a way SK lucked out with DJ.
So you tell me and show me where SK has done even OK with his drafts. Why? Isn't your mind already made up? |
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Post by One_Heartbeat on Oct 3, 2018 8:39:21 GMT -7
IMV, a lo-viz SK is all about managing the org's public image. The org doesn't want to embarrass itself further with GM behavior Q&A in the open, especially by a win-less GM. Precisely. Keim lost his "right" to be high profile, shaking hands, kissing babies, flashing thumbs ups, with the DUI. If I were him I would enter the building through the back door and leave the same way, treat publicity the way Superman treats Kryptonite. |
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Post by 1988card on Oct 3, 2018 9:24:47 GMT -7
Pass rush efficiency. He's right got behind Watt and a few others. okay. But lets not get crazy. He's 59 on PFF and he's part of our Dline that is getting gashed. But he is improving. That's a fair and measured assessment that I can agree with. At least we're finally seeing the flash plays and some more consistency. Definitely intriguing. |
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Post by 1988card on Oct 3, 2018 9:27:33 GMT -7
Niche is a top 5 D lineman in the NFL...... ...Just where did you come up with that ? The guy probably wouldn't start for half the teams.
Humph is nothing special as a LT. Average at best.
Riddick is not ready to be a LB. Might never be a decent LB. It's not easy to change from being a down lineman to a LB. Most fail or if anything they are just ok.
D Buck is getting creamed as he was last year. Way to small and can't disengage.
Other than DJ, SK hasn't drafted 1 player who made the pro bowl other than Special teams. And DJ was an after thought. SK wanted some guy the Lions drafted before it was the Cards turn, and he isn't very good. So in a way SK lucked out with DJ.
So you tell me and show me where SK has done even OK with his drafts. Didn't Mathieu make a pro bowl? He was 1st team all pro. This is a test to apply right now. Still way too early. I don't even think a guy like A Dub started making pro bowls until he was well into his career. Did Dansby ever make a pro bowl? These guys you mention are all in their 2nd, 3rd or 4th years in the league. Way early. DJ Humphries could easily make pro bowls if he stays healthy. Reddick is barely in his second year and played at a small school and is in his second defensive scheme. Buc is Niche player that they need to allocate properly. He's been very good in the past. Nkemdiche is improving. It's funny that you gladly leave out the fact that Keim played a big role in a very successful 5 year run of 50 wins. That's how you can tell someone is totally disingenuous. They refuse to acknowledge ANY positives. Settle down. |
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Post by ~MainEvent~ on Oct 3, 2018 10:04:11 GMT -7
Niche is a top 5 D lineman in the NFL...... ...Just where did you come up with that ? The guy probably wouldn't start for half the teams.
Humph is nothing special as a LT. Average at best.
Riddick is not ready to be a LB. Might never be a decent LB. It's not easy to change from being a down lineman to a LB. Most fail or if anything they are just ok.
D Buck is getting creamed as he was last year. Way to small and can't disengage.
Other than DJ, SK hasn't drafted 1 player who made the pro bowl other than Special teams. And DJ was an after thought. SK wanted some guy the Lions drafted before it was the Cards turn, and he isn't very good. So in a way SK lucked out with DJ.
So you tell me and show me where SK has done even OK with his drafts. Really lol Mathieu was an All Pro and DPOY of the year candidate, John Brown was a 1000 yard WR and would have been multiple times if Carson never had gotten hurt. People love to try to bring up anything to discredit the DJ pick and ignore he picked double digit sack guy the same round. Hell, Ellington was going to have the offense built around him people forget that and he was a 6th rounder. It's not a GM's fault that his good picks get hurt, that's always been the issue that a lot of you choose to pull the Stevie Wonder with. Deone literally had people moving safeties to linebackers 2 years ago do we forget this? The new scheme hurts him more than anything, nobody ever questioned his ability to play prior to this year. |
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Post by aris on Oct 3, 2018 10:17:03 GMT -7
Niche is a top 5 D lineman in the NFL...... ...Just where did you come up with that ? The guy probably wouldn't start for half the teams.
Humph is nothing special as a LT. Average at best.
Riddick is not ready to be a LB. Might never be a decent LB. It's not easy to change from being a down lineman to a LB. Most fail or if anything they are just ok.
D Buck is getting creamed as he was last year. Way to small and can't disengage.
Other than DJ, SK hasn't drafted 1 player who made the pro bowl other than Special teams. And DJ was an after thought. SK wanted some guy the Lions drafted before it was the Cards turn, and he isn't very good. So in a way SK lucked out with DJ.
So you tell me and show me where SK has done even OK with his drafts. Niche-been a BUM but looks like he could actually turn the corner. STill very fair to say he's a huge under performer. Humphries: He is probably an above average LT, injuries have hurt him but he's 24 years old. I really like this guy. Reddick: Shocked he's where he is at this point and genuinly concerned he can adapt. Most NFL players are adjusting to systems but it really comes down to "can you ball?". And right now he is lost. BUT he's a young hard working guy and I feel he will turn it around. DBuc: He's in his contract year and is getting killed. Does not bode well with this guy. He's gone after this year. He's made some brutal picks that reflected his big ego more then anything. Brandon Williams? A RB turned corner in the third round? Geez. He pretty well blew the entire 2016 draft. That hurts our depth more then anything. We are thin in multiple positions. Love picks like Buddha Baker, Honey Badger (awful contract extension), John Brown, Ellington. He's done better in the mid round range it seems. Overall I'd give Keim a C in drafting. |
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Post by belac44 on Oct 3, 2018 10:25:49 GMT -7
1.I am tired of rentals for one year. 2.I am tired of the busts in the first round. 3.I am tired of the small school talent trying to compete with blue chippers. 4.I am tired of small undersized players. 5.The linebacker corps not enough talent. 6.Oline SK has tried several things and still a failure in that area. 7. Why didn't he address the Wr corp before your hall of famer retire's maybe a little sooner then Kirk ? I want a GM that builds something and tries to keep it together or replenish what you are gonna lose. Yeah he has done some good things but not enough to justify him to continue on as the GM. I hope MB is actively looking for his replacement as well as this coaching staff. I think we need to clear out a lot of these players and draft better and bring guy's not on one year deal's and let them walk and no more over the hill players we need studs not duds. Sorry I have been just little bit mad with SK and on down. 1) some of those 1 year rentals played key parts in Cards success 2) first round busts are very frustrating, cannot argue that. 3) John Brown had success here and is killing it with Ravens. David Johnson, who you probably like, was from Northern Iowa. Just because he has missed on some, doesnt mean its all worthless. 4) John Brown is probably one you are talking about and see #3. Honey Badger and Budda Baker are undersized so you probably dislike them as well. Interesting.... 5) LB core has been a disaster. They tried to address it, just not working too well. They didnt make any effort this offseason and that was frustrating. 6) They signed one of the top OG avail. The Smith signing was blah and I dont think an upgrade over Veldheer at all. I actually think I prefer Wetzel in there, we will see how Smith plays. They have not ignored the position, just not a major upgrade. 7) you may not like the pick but they did choose a WR in the third round last year as well. Don’t give up on Williams just yet. That is two picks in the top 3 rounds last two years. They also took John Brown a couple years ago they expected to be around, that just didnt work out. Keim has made some HUGE trades that altered the franchise. Carson and Chandler Jones. He has also missed on a lot of draft picks. He hired a coach and gave Cards one of if not the best 5 year run in franchise history. Most teams are frustrated with their GM. Rams were HORRIFIC for years and the reason they are good is stock piling picks and now hitting on a very good coach. Keep in mind how long they had to suck really bad to get where they are. Not defending Keim as he frustrates me big time. But he has done some good things. Just expressing some counter thoughts to your points. |
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Post by Redbirdfan62 on Oct 3, 2018 15:30:08 GMT -7
1.I am tired of rentals for one year. 2.I am tired of the busts in the first round. 3.I am tired of the small school talent trying to compete with blue chippers. 4.I am tired of small undersized players. 5.The linebacker corps not enough talent. 6.Oline SK has tried several things and still a failure in that area. 7. Why didn't he address the Wr corp before your hall of famer retire's maybe a little sooner then Kirk ? I want a GM that builds something and tries to keep it together or replenish what you are gonna lose. Yeah he has done some good things but not enough to justify him to continue on as the GM. I hope MB is actively looking for his replacement as well as this coaching staff. I think we need to clear out a lot of these players and draft better and bring guy's not on one year deal's and let them walk and no more over the hill players we need studs not duds. Sorry I have been just little bit mad with SK and on down. 1) some of those 1 year rentals played key parts in Cards success 2) first round busts are very frustrating, cannot argue that. 3) John Brown had success here and is killing it with Ravens. David Johnson, who you probably like, was from Northern Iowa. Just because he has missed on some, doesnt mean its all worthless. 4) John Brown is probably one you are talking about and see #3. Honey Badger and Budda Baker are undersized so you probably dislike them as well. Interesting.... 5) LB core has been a disaster. They tried to address it, just not working too well. They didnt make any effort this offseason and that was frustrating. 6) They signed one of the top OG avail. The Smith signing was blah and I dont think an upgrade over Veldheer at all. I actually think I prefer Wetzel in there, we will see how Smith plays. They have not ignored the position, just not a major upgrade. 7) you may not like the pick but they did choose a WR in the third round last year as well. Don’t give up on Williams just yet. That is two picks in the top 3 rounds last two years. They also took John Brown a couple years ago they expected to be around, that just didnt work out. Keim has made some HUGE trades that altered the franchise. Carson and Chandler Jones. He has also missed on a lot of draft picks. He hired a coach and gave Cards one of if not the best 5 year run in franchise history. Most teams are frustrated with their GM. Rams were HORRIFIC for years and the reason they are good is stock piling picks and now hitting on a very good coach. Keep in mind how long they had to suck really bad to get where they are. Not defending Keim as he frustrates me big time. But he has done some good things. Just expressing some counter thoughts to your points. Oh I agree and have said it before he has done some good things but in my opinion not enough that I don't want a young very smart GM with a lot of upside that can take us to another level. I know some of these one year rentals have done well for us but I feel the longer you keep good players together the better the unit becomes. I know you can't pay them all and are gonna have turnover but we have too much turnover in my opinion. |
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Post by Raze on Oct 3, 2018 19:05:11 GMT -7
Niche is a top 5 D lineman in the NFL...... ...Just where did you come up with that ? The guy probably wouldn't start for half the teams.
Humph is nothing special as a LT. Average at best.
Riddick is not ready to be a LB. Might never be a decent LB. It's not easy to change from being a down lineman to a LB. Most fail or if anything they are just ok.
D Buck is getting creamed as he was last year. Way to small and can't disengage.
Other than DJ, SK hasn't drafted 1 player who made the pro bowl other than Special teams. And DJ was an after thought. SK wanted some guy the Lions drafted before it was the Cards turn, and he isn't very good. So in a way SK lucked out with DJ.
So you tell me and show me where SK has done even OK with his drafts. Really lol Mathieu was an All Pro and DPOY of the year candidate, John Brown was a 1000 yard WR and would have been multiple times if Carson never had gotten hurt. People love to try to bring up anything to discredit the DJ pick and ignore he picked double digit sack guy the same round. Hell, Ellington was going to have the offense built around him people forget that and he was a 6th rounder. It's not a GM's fault that his good picks get hurt, that's always been the issue that a lot of you choose to pull the Stevie Wonder with. Deone literally had people moving safeties to linebackers 2 years ago do we forget this? The new scheme hurts him more than anything, nobody ever questioned his ability to play prior to this year. To add: Keim isn't given credit for WHERE he's drafting. From 2014-2016 the Cards took: DBuc at #27, Hump at #24, and Diche at #29. Whereas during that same time span the Rams took: Greg Robinson at #2, Aaron Donald at #13, Gurley at #10, and Goff at #1. How in the world are you supposed to give a fair assessment of the two when they are choosing at completely different ends of the 1st round? Yeah, sure, I guess Snead got better production out of his 1st rounders. But wasn't he expected too? And before anyone throws Cooper in Keim's face again, remember that Snead TRADED UP to take Tavon Austin in the same draft ONE PICK LATER. That's a fireable offense. I'm fine with properly giving Keim the blame he's due. I'm not fine with the careless manner in which many here are doing it. |
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Post by smktlk on Oct 3, 2018 20:05:24 GMT -7
Really lol Mathieu was an All Pro and DPOY of the year candidate, John Brown was a 1000 yard WR and would have been multiple times if Carson never had gotten hurt. People love to try to bring up anything to discredit the DJ pick and ignore he picked double digit sack guy the same round. Hell, Ellington was going to have the offense built around him people forget that and he was a 6th rounder. It's not a GM's fault that his good picks get hurt, that's always been the issue that a lot of you choose to pull the Stevie Wonder with. Deone literally had people moving safeties to linebackers 2 years ago do we forget this? The new scheme hurts him more than anything, nobody ever questioned his ability to play prior to this year. To add: Keim isn't given credit for WHERE he's drafting. From 2014-2016 the Cards took: DBuc at #27, Hump at #24, and Diche at #29. Whereas during that same time span the Rams took: Greg Robinson at #2, Aaron Donald at #13, Gurley at #10, and Goff at #1. How in the world are you supposed to give a fair assessment of the two when they are choosing at completely different ends of the 1st round? Yeah, sure, I guess Snead got better production out of his 1st rounders. But wasn't he expected too? And before anyone throws Cooper in Keim's face again, remember that Snead TRADED UP to take Tavon Austin in the same draft ONE PICK LATER. That's a fireable offense. I'm fine with properly giving Keim the blame he's due. I'm not fine with the careless manner in which many here are doing it. This couldn’t be closer to the truth. I am not a huge Keim fan but we must be fair. And don’t forget the trade ( which is nothing short of peanuts ) for the opportunity to draft Josh Rosen. Whether it works out or not is irrelevant as it gives us a chance at a franchise QB which every team in the league knew that we sorely needed for next to nothing. |
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Post by knobby on Oct 3, 2018 20:45:23 GMT -7
To add: Keim isn't given credit for WHERE he's drafting. From 2014-2016 the Cards took: DBuc at #27, Hump at #24, and Diche at #29. Whereas during that same time span the Rams took: Greg Robinson at #2, Aaron Donald at #13, Gurley at #10, and Goff at #1. How in the world are you supposed to give a fair assessment of the two when they are choosing at completely different ends of the 1st round? Yeah, sure, I guess Snead got better production out of his 1st rounders. But wasn't he expected too? And before anyone throws Cooper in Keim's face again, remember that Snead TRADED UP to take Tavon Austin in the same draft ONE PICK LATER. That's a fireable offense. I'm fine with properly giving Keim the blame he's due. I'm not fine with the careless manner in which many here are doing it. This couldn’t be closer to the truth. I am not a huge Keim fan but we must be fair. And don’t forget the trade ( which is nothing short of peanuts ) for the opportunity to draft Josh Rosen. Whether it works out or not is irrelevant as it gives us a chance at a franchise QB which every team in the league knew that we sorely needed for next to nothing. Maybe SK belongs in a slot where he is responsible for trades and FA acquisitions instead of GM. That's where he has had success. Is that being too simplistic? I bet Main Event would be available to pick draftees for the right price - - - and he might be better at it.  |
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Post by Redbirdfan62 on Oct 4, 2018 6:02:05 GMT -7
Really lol Mathieu was an All Pro and DPOY of the year candidate, John Brown was a 1000 yard WR and would have been multiple times if Carson never had gotten hurt. People love to try to bring up anything to discredit the DJ pick and ignore he picked double digit sack guy the same round. Hell, Ellington was going to have the offense built around him people forget that and he was a 6th rounder. It's not a GM's fault that his good picks get hurt, that's always been the issue that a lot of you choose to pull the Stevie Wonder with. Deone literally had people moving safeties to linebackers 2 years ago do we forget this? The new scheme hurts him more than anything, nobody ever questioned his ability to play prior to this year. To add: Keim isn't given credit for WHERE he's drafting. From 2014-2016 the Cards took: DBuc at #27, Hump at #24, and Diche at #29. Whereas during that same time span the Rams took: Greg Robinson at #2, Aaron Donald at #13, Gurley at #10, and Goff at #1. How in the world are you supposed to give a fair assessment of the two when they are choosing at completely different ends of the 1st round? Yeah, sure, I guess Snead got better production out of his 1st rounders. But wasn't he expected too? And before anyone throws Cooper in Keim's face again, remember that Snead TRADED UP to take Tavon Austin in the same draft ONE PICK LATER. That's a fireable offense. I'm fine with properly giving Keim the blame he's due. I'm not fine with the careless manner in which many here are doing it. You do make a good point about the position of his first round picks but he swings for the fences just a little too much and drafting boys to play against men. His personnel decisions are not so great. Keeping an over the hill kicker you know you can't trust. What he paid for Bradford and he couldn't resist to bring in glennon. The oline he has tried to build both through the draft and free agency hasn't improved much. The DUI yes this guy is making very poor decisions and it's time to move on from him in my opinion. Everything considered not just his drafting decisions. Picking these small undersized players athletic they are but they are not the thumpers we need. Why not use those first round picks and bring in established talent because really those number 1's are not at near the level we can bring in.The coaching staff we currently have seem to be a very bad decision. They neglect their two best weapons on offense and the D is a shell of what it use to be why ? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2018 6:08:39 GMT -7
Also to remember SK is not alone in the Draft war room to make the picks nor in the process of setting up the Card's draft board. There is a whole Team there in each of these processes that Includes MB.
There is too much evidence that SK has done a decent job over his time at GM. But because of his faux paux this summer now he is the Biggest Bum the Team has ever had! Smh. And we have posters that just love to pin a name on him and use it in every post where he is mentioned. Who is the better person? The one who got in trouble and is making due diligence to get straightened up or the Computer desk jockey hero making up derogatory and demeaning names and playing pin the tale? You tell me.
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...Just where did you come up with that ? The guy probably wouldn't start for half the teams. 
...Just where did you come up with that ? The guy probably wouldn't start for half the teams. 
