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Post by One_Heartbeat on Sept 24, 2018 9:36:31 GMT -7
Wilks needs to go, I'm sorry justified the call for chase to be in there on the 3rd and 2 and his explanation was that the call was good we just need better blocking. Well when the other team knew the play and you run that play with that many defenders there in the box just further shows me he is not a head coach we can trust to lead the team to better days. I am so anti this coaching staff. I want to give Wilks and Co. the benefit of the doubt whenever possible but man when it's 3rd and 2 in a crucial situation and your best player is sipping Gatorade on the sidelines I have to question your competence, situational awareness, or both.
I thought the timeout after the idiotic Bradford sack shortly before the end of the first half was questionable, but later on I at least understood it partly as it gave everyone time to decide whether to trot out Grandpa Dawson to try a 57-yarder. That I can chalk up to the staff growing, etc., a minor error. Not so Johnson riding pine with the game on the line.
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Post by One_Heartbeat on Sept 24, 2018 9:38:55 GMT -7
Wilks this morning " we have the same faith in chase as David Johnson" oh brother. Really? Ugh. That's throwing good money after bad. Go with the "in hindsight" or something but don't spout that gibberish. That's right up there in absurdity with "we know what works" during 10 game losing streaks or "Amos is coaching extremely, extremely well" or "Butler is a good punter when you look at the numbers" if we want to drag the functioning alcoholic into this. |
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Post by One_Heartbeat on Sept 24, 2018 9:41:58 GMT -7
I think the prescribed thought leading up to the hiring of Wilks was that no decent coach wanted anything to do with the Cardinals because of the QB situation. Who knows if that's true. This mess is not just a Wilks thing of course. The wunderkind McVay takes the Rams job coming off of a disaster season with a QB named Goff who some are already calling a bust so I can never buy the idea that it's about one guy. Maybe the Cardinals are still stuck in a bygone decade, with "the process", too much loyalty, whatever.
Anyway, should be interesting on some level to watch this thing play out. Wilks can't walk the plank without Keim, that much I know.
Yah, but this is why even if we could not have gotten an experienced/proven HC, we should have at least gone with one who is offensive minded and has experience with young quarterbacks. When you know that you will soon be using your first round pick on a rookie QB, that is one time when you have NO business hiring a defense specialized HC! This is going to hamstring Rosen for the foreseeable future. Hmmm, maybe the functioning alcoholic wasn't certain he'd be taking a QBOF in round one and went defensive. I for one don't think the whole choice is mutually exclusive, look at the division champ the Rams, they have the offensive wunderkind as HC to go with the wise old DC and a ton of defensive studs. Arians was the quarterback whisperer and had a lot of success because of good defense. |
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Post by Zaz on Sept 24, 2018 10:07:40 GMT -7
Mccoy is a bigger problem than Wilks right now. Replace Mccoy with Byron Leftwhich, if the team is still DOA, then you look at Wilks. Wilks is a D guy. He really cant be blamed for the offense right now. He knows nothing about Offense. Thats why he hired Mccoy and Mccoy is blowing it. If he has no clue about the offense why would the cardinals want him as the head coach ? I want all of them gone Mccoy now. John Harbaugh was a special teams coach with no OC or DC experience when the Ravens hired him to be HC. Hes got a superbowl ring. Being HC has little to do with being an offensive or defensive mind. Its about leadership. OCs and DCs handle the details. |
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Post by clutchdj on Sept 24, 2018 10:51:18 GMT -7
Mccoy is a bigger problem than Wilks right now. Replace Mccoy with Byron Leftwhich, if the team is still DOA, then you look at Wilks. Wilks is a D guy. He really cant be blamed for the offense right now. He knows nothing about Offense. Thats why he hired Mccoy and Mccoy is blowing it. Wilks hired a guy that got fired midway through a season. He’s just as much as a problem as McCoy is. |
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Post by TDACKTAL on Sept 24, 2018 11:29:04 GMT -7
I'll point out one difference between Singletary and Wilks tho.
Singletary wasn't a players coach. Wilks is
Wilks has a lot of player backing around the league. I don't remember that happening with Singletary.
I'm for giving Wilks the benefit of the doubt. I think Keim is the culprit and McCoy is the example. Wilks inherited a **** show plain and simple.
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Post by aris on Sept 24, 2018 11:33:28 GMT -7
Wilks this morning " we have the same faith in chase as David Johnson" oh brother. I'm not sure in what context he said this . Just trying to be fair to him. That being said when the game is on the line you want your best players on the field. the previous drive DJ was on the bench the whole time. I was waiting to get an injury update because surely there would have to be a reason why he sat the whole drive. Head scratching play calling and use of personnel. |
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Post by Zaz on Sept 24, 2018 11:34:15 GMT -7
Mccoy is a bigger problem than Wilks right now. Replace Mccoy with Byron Leftwhich, if the team is still DOA, then you look at Wilks. Wilks is a D guy. He really cant be blamed for the offense right now. He knows nothing about Offense. Thats why he hired Mccoy and Mccoy is blowing it. Wilks hired a guy that got fired midway through a season. He’s just as much as a problem as McCoy is. Todd Bowles was a horrific DC for the eagles when BA forced out an already very good DC in Ray Horton. I remember cards fans were livid. And Bowles turned out to be a terrific DC for us. You just never know. Theres no problem with making mistakes. He hired Mccoy. Mccoy is terrible. Fire him, try someone else. The problem is if they stick with him. Thats when you fire Wilks. |
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Post by rooseveltcardsfan on Sept 24, 2018 11:56:10 GMT -7
The players are ok, the OC is the problem.. Something needs to change.. the dink n dunk is what we all expected.
The reason for the dink n dunk is the ol.. get the ball out quick and run the ball. Has the ol played well enough to change the strategy, I don’t know.. if Rosen starts the next game, do you think he should be the lamb put up for slaughter or should it be Bradford.. tough decision in my eyes..
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Post by One_Heartbeat on Sept 24, 2018 12:32:17 GMT -7
Wilks hired a guy that got fired midway through a season. He’s just as much as a problem as McCoy is. Todd Bowles was a horrific DC for the eagles when BA forced out an already very good DC in Ray Horton. I remember cards fans were livid. And Bowles turned out to be a terrific DC for us. You just never know. Theres no problem with making mistakes. He hired Mccoy. Mccoy is terrible. Fire him, try someone else. The problem is if they stick with him. Thats when you fire Wilks. I guess he could try saying McCoy is coaching extremely, extremely well and call off the dogs that way. Worked for Arians, albeit in an area of the game that many people think is not a big deal for some unknown reason.
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Post by Zaz on Sept 24, 2018 12:35:08 GMT -7
Todd Bowles was a horrific DC for the eagles when BA forced out an already very good DC in Ray Horton. I remember cards fans were livid. And Bowles turned out to be a terrific DC for us. You just never know. Theres no problem with making mistakes. He hired Mccoy. Mccoy is terrible. Fire him, try someone else. The problem is if they stick with him. Thats when you fire Wilks. I guess he could try saying McCoy is coaching extremely, extremely well and call off the dogs that way. Worked for Arians, albeit in an area of the game that many people think is not a big deal for some unknown reason.
Mccoy essentially gets a second wind with Rosen. So say 3 more games as OC with Rosen. If still the offense is DOA, then Mccoy gets fired. Because maybe this is a good offense, but Bradford was the problem. Unlikely, but maybe. As we saw when Rosen got in there, he threw 2 beautiful, long 1st down throws. So apparently those plays do exist in Mccoys offense, it just took a different QB to throw them. We'll see. I say 3 more games with Rosen. If no improvement, Mccoys fired. |
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Post by herreickhorn on Sept 24, 2018 12:52:38 GMT -7
Yes - Wilks seemed angry and hostile. In every presser he frequently uses the word "execute" when talking about his players. Its a bad sign. "Execute" is coach code for deflecting the blame onto the players. Its a total cop out and has me worried that the coaching staff is not accepting responsibility for poor play. In every presser he says "we need to find a way to win one game." I hate that. It sounds bad. Its setting expectations way to low. And as a side note, I hated the way all the players were laughing and joking out on the field after the game. Someone needs to remind them they are now 0-3 and will be in last place when the new power rankings come out. They are now the joke of the NFL. May be that's what they thought was funny? May be it IS time for Wilks to drop his pants? HH, welcome to the board. At 0-3, the Cards are not alone in the win-less column. For now, we share the NFL doghouse with Pittsburgh, Oakland, and Houston. Penthouse luxury to doghouse mediocrity happens so fast with some teams. The Cardinals are not alone in that elevator. The Bidwill's are very pleased that they share an 0-3 record with Oakland. This vindicates their decision to go cheap with Wilks and insulates them from criticism. Its also why McCoy won't be fired, just like Amos never was. Cardinals history proves that we are stuck with the coaches we now have for the duration. The organization has now moved onto their next project, which is ruining a promising rookie QB. This is the Cardinals cycle. We have seen it before. |
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Post by herreickhorn on Sept 24, 2018 14:07:29 GMT -7
Wilks this morning " we have the same faith in chase as David Johnson" oh brother. Yesterday, we witnessed the frightening birth of “Faith” based coaching. This is an abandonment of statistics, probabilities, history and logic in game day decisions. For example: 1) No faith in Dawson hitting a game sealing FG at 57 yards even though he has made that distance before. 2) Faith that Chase Edmonds is as good as David Johnson in a critical yardage situation. 3) No faith that your experienced 20 million dollar QB can move the ball 35 yards downfield for a game winning FG attempt. 4) Faith that tossing a cold rookie QB into a desperate situation would result in a Patrick Mahomes type performance even though he has never played a down in regular season. Ready yourself for “faith” based coaching. It is the new Cardinals standard as stated by Coach Wilks. It must have been a miserable game for the home fans at State Farm stadium. Probably more like a Bears home game. And very reminiscent of the Denny Green Monday night melt-down game. And the Cardinals players, after the game, laughing it up on the field shows they are emotionally disconnected from what just happened and how serious it is. Jude LaCava said it best last night in his game summary in that we now have an “organizational problem.” |
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Post by End Zone on Sept 24, 2018 14:08:54 GMT -7
HH, welcome to the board. At 0-3, the Cards are not alone in the win-less column. For now, we share the NFL doghouse with Pittsburgh, Oakland, and Houston. Penthouse luxury to doghouse mediocrity happens so fast with some teams. The Cardinals are not alone in that elevator. The Bidwill's are very pleased that they share an 0-3 record with Oakland. This vindicates their decision to go cheap with Wilks and insulates them from criticism. Its also why McCoy won't be fired, just like Amos never was. Cardinals history proves that we are stuck with the coaches we now have for the duration. The organization has now moved onto their next project, which is ruining a promising rookie QB. This is the Cardinals cycle. We have seen it before. I like your style, HH: thoughtful, informed, precise, constructive, and mindful of the Cardinals management history. Please be a regular contributor here. P |
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Post by rdo3 on Sept 24, 2018 14:43:08 GMT -7
has this team looked like its had competent coaching? we can dispense with the title coach for wilks. he's no coach. evidently he does call plays, draw up plays, he sits on the sideline holding a red flag, that's it. you can call him flag holder wilks.
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