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Post by FLCardinalFan on Nov 17, 2020 17:26:56 GMT -7
NOPE, I didn't forget
Go to the Last Few Pages for Updates
This will only be a list A draft big board.
It is not meant to replace the 2021 NFL Draft thread at all. I would rather you comment on that thread and vote on this one.
Hi Everyone,
To make this work I need your help. Here is my idea
I have been building my own NFL Draft Big Board each year. This is is YOUR DRAFT BOARD. I will still do mine. But I want your input All rankings will come from everyone who votes for that player.
The great Football Analysts have their own Top 50/100 Big Boards Here are some:
Daniel Jeremiah, Scott Wright, Draft Kings, NFL Draft Network Peter King, ESPN and so on.
Before we start this project
This Big Board is going to be
The Arizona Cardinal Free Fan Forum Draft Board
Here is how you can help.
Since I fully expect us to pick 16th this year I will propose at least a TOP 64 Player Big Board The Cardinals will get 16th and 49th (barring trades) That will cover the NFL draft's 1st two rounds.
A top 100 or more would take tons of time I may leave that option open.
We are going to build our BIG BOARD with everyone who wants to participate.
*It will be done by a consensus of votes* It will be fluid, you can change your mind
Now for some ideas before we start
1st idea since there are 64 players in a TOP 64 BIG BOARD
Should I use a format below
1. Player A 2. B 3. C 4. D 5. E 6. F 7. G 8. H 9. I 10. K
Should the player who gets the second most votes be the 2nd overall Draft Pick then 3rd Place and So on. This is not a trade board or which team will pick which player. It is based on talent of who you think is deserving to be 1-64.
I can put out a list of names 1-10 and even change it if the members wish to do so.
I'm Ready For Feedback
FLCardinalFan
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Post by FLCardinalFan on Nov 17, 2020 17:35:42 GMT -7
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Post by devongent on Nov 18, 2020 1:49:38 GMT -7
Okay FL; I'm game.
Are we going to choose our 'top 10' players and when the results are in then assign them on the board and then repeat (11 - 20)? - Sorry, not fully understanding how this is going to be structured.
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Post by FLCardinalFan on Nov 18, 2020 1:55:27 GMT -7
Okay FL; I'm game. Are we going to choose our 'top 10' players and when the results are in then assign them on the board and then repeat (11 - 20)? - Sorry, not fully understanding how this is going to be structured. HI Devongent, That is why I opened this up for discussion first. Each member could post his list of top ten players in order of choice. 1 -10 then 11-20 or we can do Polls? 1-10 11-20 and so on Your thoughts?
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Post by End Zone on Nov 18, 2020 3:22:40 GMT -7
FLCF,
This is going to be messy, but I'm in too. I will first work on this project at home, developing positions to be filled and finding players to fill those positions. For example, my top position need is CB, then DE, etc. I will consult several sites to research player attributes. For example, height, weight, 40 speed, verticle jump, etc. And if the player does an online interview, that definitely gets attention. I can evaluate some intelligence via his oral comm construction. When the cake is baked, I will post it.
I suppose we'll collaborate on the final lists, 1-32 and 33-64.
On draft day, I use the best player available (BPA) to pick. If Trevor Lawrence is available, he will NOT trigger serious debate for more than a second or two.
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Post by FLCardinalFan on Nov 18, 2020 5:58:55 GMT -7
Yes,
This is a collaborative effort. There are two ways to go. Best Player Available and a Cardinals needs board with players at those positions of need.
It might be best to have two boards Overall big board and a Cardinals Team Board.
Memmbers can vote on each one.
We can still do our annual mock draft Devongent ws the winner last year having the Packers pick Jordan Love at QB.
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Post by devongent on Nov 18, 2020 13:02:58 GMT -7
There are two ways to go. Best Player Available and a Cardinals needs board with players at those positions of need. Hello FL; My preferred option (out of those two stated) is more a Cardinal's needs board(s) and thus members can focus on which players he/ she would most like to draft. - One reason is that people can then list their favorite prospects without any requirement to trawl through lots of names that they may have no interest in. For example, for myself, I haven't looked into any QB, OT or Safety prospect as I have already (perhaps foolishly) discounted us drafting any of these (consequently, where might I 'rank' any certain named Safety then I have absolutely no idea). What about.... (to keep things as simple as possible) - Week 1 - Forum members list and submit their 'top 10' (the top ranked player is attributed 10 points down to 1 point). - All of these are combined together into 'grand totals' and the highest overall scorer moves onto the Cardinals Draft Board as our number one target and then so on down to number 10. Week 2 - Repeat the process (minus the ten players already sitting on the big board) and the 11 to 20 ranked prospects can de determined. Week 3 - Repeat process (this time minus the twenty now on the big board) and the 21 to 30 prospects are determined. Week 4 and beyond. - This could be carried on for as long as people are still interested to take part. We could end up with, say, a top 30, 40 or 50 Cardinal Draft Board. Possible advantages - - All forum members will have (to a greater or lesser extent) some idea of which players they like the look of in the upcoming draft. By limiting the requirement to ten names at a time (bite size chunks) then this might encourage more people to participate. Faced with the prospect of ranking a large number of players in one go then some may be inclined to give the process a 'pass' and not participate. - During each 'week gap' then it would allow members time to do a bit of light research on some of the remaining players. Possible disadvantages - - Members might feel that the process is dragging on too much and disengage. - That there is no structure built into the process to allow people to vary their choices over time. This is potentially the biggest flaw and thus the result may only be considered to be 'a straw poll' (being a long way from the draft then member's views and opinions are likely/ liable to change). - Someone has got to manage all of this (I don't mind helping you). Anyway, just an initial response back. - The above suggestion could be deemed a load of rubbish and if so please feel free to totally disregard!
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Post by FLCardinalFan on Nov 20, 2020 22:26:22 GMT -7
Week 1 - Forum members list and submit their 'top 10' (the top ranked player is attributed 10 points down to 1 point). - All of these are combined together into 'grand totals' and the highest overall scorer moves onto the Cardinals Draft Board as our number one target and then so on down to number 10. I really like this idea and format The hard part will be cooperation
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Post by devongent on Nov 21, 2020 2:17:55 GMT -7
The hard part will be cooperation I think if there are at least twenty people willing to give this a real go then the results would be meaningful. - I would hope that this level of participation could be achieved, but the key (I believe) will come down to the timing. - What date(s) did you have in mind? Link for the 2021 league calendar - www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2021-nfl-offseason-league-releases-tentative-calendar-that-reveals-key-dates-to-follow-conclusion-of-2020/Proposed date for the new season is 17th March 2021 with the draft right at the end of April. - Thus 17th March might be a good start date for us where people may feel energized to take part and also read up on the prospects. Anyway just an idea, but if it is launched whilst the Cardinals are still playing this season then I don't consider that there will be much interest/ uptake.
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Post by FLCardinalFan on Nov 21, 2020 5:20:53 GMT -7
The hard part will be cooperation I think if there are at least twenty people willing to give this a real go then the results would be meaningful. - I would hope that this level of participation could be achieved, but the key (I believe) will come down to the timing. - What date(s) did you have in mind? Link for the 2021 league calendar - www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2021-nfl-offseason-league-releases-tentative-calendar-that-reveals-key-dates-to-follow-conclusion-of-2020/Proposed date for the new season is 17th March 2021 with the draft right at the end of April. - Thus 17th March might be a good start date for us where people may feel energized to take part and also read up on the prospects. Anyway just an idea, but if it is launched whilst the Cardinals are still playing this season then I don't consider that there will be much interest/ uptake. I agree about not doing it too soon or too late for that matter. I usually start in December looking for who I like in the draft. I want the season to be over so I know exactly where we will be picking. This year we look to be in the middle to late first round. Because of the Covid crisis so much has changed. There may not even be an NFL Combine in 2021. No one has talked about that to date. If we ask the members for a list of ten names each week starting at 1-10. We, then give them a week to reply. After that we add up all the votes. That will take 5 weeks for a 1-64 board. I would like to do 64 to cover at least 2 rounds of the draft. Then lets say we allow a week for rearranging the member's picks for a revote. 1-10, 10-20, 20-30, 30-40, 50-64, <(14 players)
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Post by devongent on Nov 21, 2020 5:50:06 GMT -7
I want the season to be over so I know exactly where we will be picking. FL; SB is scheduled for 7th February, so any time after then! - Even if the Cardinals don't get to Tampa there is a strong possibility we will still be playing well into January. Also: "Feb. 23 - March 9: Franchise/Transition Player Designation Period". - Might this be very significant in terms of people's choices? - I don't know, but just thought I would mention it. So, start anytime from 14th February (earliest) through to 17th March (latest). - What do ye all think?
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Post by FLCardinalFan on Nov 21, 2020 5:56:58 GMT -7
I want the season to be over so I know exactly where we will be picking. FL; SB is scheduled for 7th February, so any time after then! - Even if the Cardinals don't get to Tampa there is a strong possibility we will still be playing well into January. Also: "Feb. 23 - March 9: Franchise/Transition Player Designation Period". - Might this be very significant in terms of people's choices? - I don't know, but just thought I would mention it. So, start anytime from 14th February (earliest) through to 17th March (latest). - What do ye all think? That sounds pretty good. We should be done by the start of April
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Post by devongent on Nov 21, 2020 5:57:50 GMT -7
If we ask the members for a list of ten names each week starting at 1-10. We, then give them a week to reply. After that we add up all the votes. That will take 5 weeks for a 1-64 board. I would like to do 64 to cover at least 2 rounds of the draft. Then lets say we allow a week for rearranging the member's picks for a revote. Agree with this. After that we add up all the votes. The counting of our votes better be quicker/ more efficient than that other recent poll in Arizona (sorry guys, I couldn't resist).
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Post by devongent on Nov 21, 2020 6:01:10 GMT -7
That sounds pretty good. We should be done by the start of April So, 14th February start date (when we ask for the ten names to be submitted by the 21st)?
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Post by FLCardinalFan on Nov 21, 2020 6:19:10 GMT -7
That sounds pretty good. We should be done by the start of April So, 14th February start date (when we ask for the ten names to be submitted by the 21st)? If someone wants to put forth a list before then I have no problem with that
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