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Post by equilibrium on Sept 16, 2018 20:57:48 GMT -7
Where's Zaz and all that preseason talk about his interceptions in camp?
I believe he already labeled him a bust.
Anybody that saw him play in college knew he was special, and honestly I think him being on the Chiefs is the perfect fit for him. Don't know if he would've thrive the same way here in AZ with this pathetic coaching staff.
Then again, maybe BA wouldn't have retired knowing he had Mahomes to coach up.
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Post by beaverhuntr on Sept 17, 2018 7:14:03 GMT -7
That pedigree .. Kid can throw!
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Post by birdbrain on Sept 17, 2018 10:20:19 GMT -7
Why doesn't Keim have talent in choosing Quarterbacks? We could have landed so many good QBOF. Not really sold on Rosen.Just have to hope for the best.
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Post by belac44 on Sept 17, 2018 10:32:30 GMT -7
Where's Zaz and all that preseason talk about his interceptions in camp? I believe he already labeled him a bust. Anybody that saw him play in college knew he was special, and honestly I think him being on the Chiefs is the perfect fit for him. Don't know if he would've thrive the same way here in AZ with this pathetic coaching staff. Then again, maybe BA wouldn't have retired knowing he had Mahomes to coach up. Just like every time he is wrong (often) he will just disappear from the thread or never show up in one when proven wrong. Its funny as it never fails. |
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Post by CardCore on Sept 17, 2018 11:00:16 GMT -7
so............coulda,woulda....shoulda  let it rip Don't get me STARRRRRRTED ! ! ! ! |
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Post by One_Heartbeat on Sept 17, 2018 11:03:10 GMT -7
And he didn't crack after the Steelers tied it at 21. Something for all teams fretting about their kickers today, when you score TDs and relegate the kicker to XPs, somehow the fretting stops.
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Post by aris on Sept 17, 2018 15:06:20 GMT -7
Where's Zaz and all that preseason talk about his interceptions in camp? I believe he already labeled him a bust. Anybody that saw him play in college knew he was special, and honestly I think him being on the Chiefs is the perfect fit for him. Don't know if he would've thrive the same way here in AZ with this pathetic coaching staff. Then again, maybe BA wouldn't have retired knowing he had Mahomes to coach up. Just like every time he is wrong (often) he will just disappear from the thread or never show up in one when proven wrong. Its funny as it never fails. Yea pretty much. He babbles endlessly and then proven wrong (again) he's gone. Kind of like when I showed him DJ actually is not injury prone. He was gone. There were many of us , including me, who were very vocal about Mahomes. I wanted him more then any other QB in the past 5 years. don't get me wrong I'm very happy we got Rosen but Mahomes was so appealing . And he's proving to be amazing. |
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Post by biggs on Sept 17, 2018 16:59:39 GMT -7
I loved Mahomes. I loved having BA coach a QB for a year. Mahomes with McCoy coaching him might well be Sam Bradford. Rosen with McCoy coaching him is going to be ruined. Sam should be cut but I'm very upset to have McCoy being the first OC to bring him along. In the debate about when Rosen should start I think the debate should be should Rosen be quarantined from the Cardinals organization this year? Maybe we can hire Arians to coach him on a neutral site and watch games with him for a couple of months? I really think having him around this O is going to set him back.
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Post by Raze on Sept 17, 2018 19:33:07 GMT -7
Why doesn't Keim have talent in choosing Quarterbacks? We could have landed so many good QBOF. Not really sold on Rosen.Just have to hope for the best. Just to make this clear: Keim desperately wanted Mahomes at #13. However, he was positive he would fall to him which is why he passed on trading away Pick #98. HUGE mistake. (Dan Bickley continues to misconstrue the situation by saying things like "the Cardinals didn't want him". I'm not sure why Dan continues to hold to this position when the litany of facts suggest otherwise.) However, his trade up for Rosen was about as cheap of a trade up as you can get. While he should get criticism for one, he still should receive praise for the other. Hopefully Rosen will make us forget the Mahomes miss when we beat KC in the SuperBowl in 3 years. |
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Post by belac44 on Sept 18, 2018 11:21:26 GMT -7
Why doesn't Keim have talent in choosing Quarterbacks? We could have landed so many good QBOF. Not really sold on Rosen.Just have to hope for the best. Just to make this clear: Keim desperately wanted Mahomes at #13. However, he was positive he would fall to him which is why he passed on trading away Pick #98. HUGE mistake. (Dan Bickley continues to misconstrue the situation by saying things like "the Cardinals didn't want him". I'm not sure why Dan continues to hold to this position when the litany of facts suggest otherwise.) However, his trade up for Rosen was about as cheap of a trade up as you can get. While he should get criticism for one, he still should receive praise for the other. Hopefully Rosen will make us forget the Mahomes miss when we beat KC in the SuperBowl in 3 years. If you desperately want someone and all it takes is a 3rd round pick to move up to get him (Rosen for example) then you do it. I too hope that Rosen lessens the pain of that move. Doesn’t help that the guys we picked with those two picks are Reddick and Williams. And ignorantly enough I have not given up on Williams, but man those two guys dont make you feel better about passing up Mahomes. And there are others besides myself that have been upset over that well before Mahomes even saw the field. This just adds to the sting. |
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Post by 1988card on Sept 19, 2018 9:50:25 GMT -7
Just to make this clear: Keim desperately wanted Mahomes at #13. However, he was positive he would fall to him which is why he passed on trading away Pick #98. HUGE mistake. (Dan Bickley continues to misconstrue the situation by saying things like "the Cardinals didn't want him". I'm not sure why Dan continues to hold to this position when the litany of facts suggest otherwise.) However, his trade up for Rosen was about as cheap of a trade up as you can get. While he should get criticism for one, he still should receive praise for the other. Hopefully Rosen will make us forget the Mahomes miss when we beat KC in the SuperBowl in 3 years. If you desperately want someone and all it takes is a 3rd round pick to move up to get him (Rosen for example) then you do it. I too hope that Rosen lessens the pain of that move. Doesn’t help that the guys we picked with those two picks are Reddick and Williams. And ignorantly enough I have not given up on Williams, but man those two guys dont make you feel better about passing up Mahomes. And there are others besides myself that have been upset over that well before Mahomes even saw the field. This just adds to the sting. To be fair, I think the aggressive trade for Rosen was result of Keim learning his lesson from missing on Mahomes. |
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Post by belac44 on Sept 19, 2018 10:02:42 GMT -7
If you desperately want someone and all it takes is a 3rd round pick to move up to get him (Rosen for example) then you do it. I too hope that Rosen lessens the pain of that move. Doesn’t help that the guys we picked with those two picks are Reddick and Williams. And ignorantly enough I have not given up on Williams, but man those two guys dont make you feel better about passing up Mahomes. And there are others besides myself that have been upset over that well before Mahomes even saw the field. This just adds to the sting. To be fair, I think the aggressive trade for Rosen was result of Keim learning his lesson from missing on Mahomes. Shouldn’t he have learned that lesson when he missed out on Abdullah, whom he wanted so bad previously? He is the GM of an NFL franchise, if you have your mind set on someone and its a franchise QB you can secure for a third round pick, then you do it. Or you didn’t want him bad enough and you should have.d I do not see giving up a third round pick for Rosen as “aggressive”. Its pretty much the most no brainer trade ever. And yes, maybe missing out numerous times helped him go for it, but it shouldn’t be that hard. |
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Post by knobby on Sept 19, 2018 10:23:01 GMT -7
To be fair, I think the aggressive trade for Rosen was result of Keim learning his lesson from missing on Mahomes. Shouldn’t he have learned that lesson when he missed out on Abdullah, whom he wanted so bad previously? He is the GM of an NFL franchise, if you have your mind set on someone and its a franchise QB you can secure for a third round pick, then you do it. Or you didn’t want him bad enough and you should have.d I do not see giving up a third round pick for Rosen as “aggressive”. Its pretty much the most no brainer trade ever. And yes, maybe missing out numerous times helped him go for it, but it shouldn’t be that hard.
Maybe SK is just an unusually slow learner. Or maybe someone else is pushing him harder as time passes(?) |
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Post by One_Heartbeat on Sept 20, 2018 14:39:05 GMT -7
Why doesn't Keim have talent in choosing Quarterbacks? We could have landed so many good QBOF. Not really sold on Rosen.Just have to hope for the best. Just to make this clear: Keim desperately wanted Mahomes at #13. However, he was positive he would fall to him which is why he passed on trading away Pick #98. HUGE mistake. (Dan Bickley continues to misconstrue the situation by saying things like "the Cardinals didn't want him". I'm not sure why Dan continues to hold to this position when the litany of facts suggest otherwise.) However, his trade up for Rosen was about as cheap of a trade up as you can get. While he should get criticism for one, he still should receive praise for the other. Hopefully Rosen will make us forget the Mahomes miss when we beat KC in the SuperBowl in 3 years. Hack Bickley will say whatever is necessary to try to keep Bickley relevant. Because Bickley should be relevant, according to Bickley. |
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Post by 1988card on Sept 20, 2018 16:47:04 GMT -7
To be fair, I think the aggressive trade for Rosen was result of Keim learning his lesson from missing on Mahomes. "Shouldn’t he have learned that lesson when he missed out on Abdullah, whom he wanted so bad previously? He is the GM of an NFL franchise, if you have your mind set on someone and its a franchise QB you can secure for a third round pick, then you do it. Or you didn’t want him bad enough and you should have." I do not see giving up a third round pick for Rosen as “aggressive”. Its pretty much the most no brainer trade ever. And yes, maybe missing out numerous times helped him go for it, but it shouldn’t be that hard. I was basically the same thing he didn't do in giving up a 3rd to move up for Mahomes. What does Abdullah have to do with it? That one worked out in his favor, so if anything, it enforced his prior mindset NOT to trade up. |
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