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Post by biggs on Sept 11, 2018 7:37:59 GMT -7
Did SK change our d to a 4/3? Did he decide to start Sam Bradford? Did he decide to use more zone on D? Did he decide to run the ball and combine it with a 3 yard passing game? SK deserves blame for the roster. What I saw on Sunday was players out of position and an O scheme and QB designed to lose. I'm not blaming Wilks yet. He deserves time to turn this around. If he stubbornly allows Bradford to kill both DJ and LF and McCoy to run this O and If he puts CJ in position where he can't get to the QB and PP is being run over by running backs on the edge, I'm going to run out of patience. Wilks better get things turned around.
SK deserves criticism for a couple of blown drafts. Right now we are getting almost no production out of 1st round picks for 4 straight years. That can't happen. The panic move for Bradford was dumb but he did it. It's up to Wilks to move on from it fast.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2018 9:23:02 GMT -7
!. Because Tramon Wanted to be back in GB. 2. And got a contract from GB that the FO could not match. Most importantly: 3. Can't make a FA play where he does Not want to play, especially one as tenured and financially secure as Tramon. Tramon is where Tramon Wanted to be. Accept the facts. They didnt offer him a contract tho.Money changes peoples minds.Its not like GB gave him a lot of money.They couldve at least attempted to give him a bigger contract.The money was there. Yes GB did give him a good amount of money for a 35 yr old CB. Tramon Williams CB 35 yrs old 12 yr Vet 2 yr $10,000,000 contract $5,000,000 Avg salary $4,750,000 Guaranteed Expires 2020 And I'm pretty sure the FO did offer a contract. But as I said, Tramon Wanted back in GB. And got a great deal to come back home. |
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Post by Cardinals Junkie on Sept 11, 2018 10:38:28 GMT -7
Did SK change our d to a 4/3? Did he decide to start Sam Bradford? Did he decide to use more zone on D? Did he decide to run the ball and combine it with a 3 yard passing game? SK hired Steve Wilks who runs zone scheme more than any other in NFL. SW also runs base 4-3 defense. So to answer your question, yes, he did change it to 4-3 and should have known we're going to run more zone. SK brought in Bradford and payed him $15M plus incentives and you don't bench someone game one if you paid them that kind of money. So to answer your question, yes, he did decide to start Bradford, in an indirect way. SK also hired McCoy who is known for a dink and dunk offense. So yes, he knew we were going dink and dunk on offense. |
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Post by biggs on Sept 11, 2018 10:46:27 GMT -7
Did SK change our d to a 4/3? Did he decide to start Sam Bradford? Did he decide to use more zone on D? Did he decide to run the ball and combine it with a 3 yard passing game? SK hired Steve Wilks who runs zone scheme more than any other in NFL. SW also runs base 4-3 defense. So to answer your question, yes, he did change it to 4-3 and should have known we're going to run more zone. SK brought in Bradford and payed him $15M plus incentives and you don't bench someone game one if you paid them that kind of money. So to answer your question, yes, he did decide to start Bradford, in an indirect way. SK also hired McCoy who is known for a dink and dunk offense. So yes, he knew we were going dink and dunk on offense. Fair points. If Wilks wants to survive he better take charge of the staff and the personal. I give a ton of blame to Bidwill. There was absolutely no reason to extend SK a year before his contract ran out. |
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Post by Cardinals Junkie on Sept 11, 2018 11:07:35 GMT -7
SK hired Steve Wilks who runs zone scheme more than any other in NFL. SW also runs base 4-3 defense. So to answer your question, yes, he did change it to 4-3 and should have known we're going to run more zone. SK brought in Bradford and payed him $15M plus incentives and you don't bench someone game one if you paid them that kind of money. So to answer your question, yes, he did decide to start Bradford, in an indirect way. SK also hired McCoy who is known for a dink and dunk offense. So yes, he knew we were going dink and dunk on offense. I give a ton of blame to Bidwill. There was absolutely no reason to extend SK a year before his contract ran out. Agreed. That's what we do for some reason. |
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Post by onanygivensunda on Sept 11, 2018 21:27:11 GMT -7
Best to let Keim go on a bender. Time for a change of the guard.
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Post by aris on Sept 12, 2018 6:17:09 GMT -7
Jamar Taylor will be the worst starting CB since the Keim era. he is very very bad. He had to hold three times or he would have gotten torched. The announcers said one was a good holding call because "he's slow". Wow.
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Post by One_Heartbeat on Sept 12, 2018 12:01:29 GMT -7
Did SK change our d to a 4/3? Did he decide to start Sam Bradford? Did he decide to use more zone on D? Did he decide to run the ball and combine it with a 3 yard passing game? SK deserves blame for the roster. What I saw on Sunday was players out of position and an O scheme and QB designed to lose. I'm not blaming Wilks yet. He deserves time to turn this around. If he stubbornly allows Bradford to kill both DJ and LF and McCoy to run this O and If he puts CJ in position where he can't get to the QB and PP is being run over by running backs on the edge, I'm going to run out of patience. Wilks better get things turned around. SK deserves criticism for a couple of blown drafts. Right now we are getting almost no production out of 1st round picks for 4 straight years. That can't happen. The panic move for Bradford was dumb but he did it. It's up to Wilks to move on from it fast. Did Keim change to a 4-3? No, but it was obvious in the interview that's where Wilks would go. If somehow it didn't come out in the interview then Keim has to be fired for not knowing that.
So no, Keim did not change to a 4-3. But he knew the guy he hired was going to change to a 4-3.
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Post by birdbrain on Sept 14, 2018 12:35:22 GMT -7
We are in rebuilding mode. Probably looking at a top 5 pick next year. All we can hope is for no serious injuries. This will be a long Season !!
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Post by End Zone on Sept 14, 2018 16:03:04 GMT -7
We are in rebuilding mode. Probably looking at a top 5 pick next year. All we can hope is for no serious injuries. This will be a long Season !! Rebuilding, check. Long season, check. No serious injuries, check. Top 5 pick, no way. 8-8 season...mid-pack again. Sure, Keim's brain may figure out another 10 spot with a trade. A 5 spot means something went very wrong with the club such as an injury, asteroid, etc. |
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Post by aris on Sept 16, 2018 14:32:05 GMT -7
0-16 anyone?
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Post by 70'sCardFan on Sept 16, 2018 14:43:19 GMT -7
I do believe it is possible.
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Post by cardinalsdo on Sept 25, 2018 0:06:53 GMT -7
Did SK change our d to a 4/3? Did he decide to start Sam Bradford? Did he decide to use more zone on D? Did he decide to run the ball and combine it with a 3 yard passing game? He hired the coaches who made those decisions. He also allowed Swearinger to depart via free agency who is one of the best safeties in the game right now and could have been re-signed for a reasonable contract. Tramon Williams was signed by the Packers to a relativley cheap contract and could have been re-signed. We still have no 2nd WR and Keim reached on Chad Williams in the 3rd round who is an obvious bust. I could go on |
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Post by cardinalsdo on Sept 25, 2018 0:13:43 GMT -7
I some what agree with you. But he wasn;t the one running or throwing the ball. And the defense as a whole couldn't stop Alabama. One of the top 10 worst games I have ever seen the Cards play. It seemed like they didn't even show up to play.
If they don't pick it up, it's going to be a looong season. Those talking heads will be smiling. Have to show 200 % improvement next game, or this is what we might have the rest of the year. You probably didn't watch any / many games from 2000-2003, I presume? Lots of games then when the Cardinals made one day stars out of a lot of guys. At least yesterday they got their asses kicked by a legit QB, RB and other players. I did watch those games and this team is worse. Dave McGinnis teams were better than this team.You are trying to be contrarian rather than admit the obvious. |
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Post by aris on Sept 25, 2018 6:59:37 GMT -7
Did SK change our d to a 4/3? Did he decide to start Sam Bradford? Did he decide to use more zone on D? Did he decide to run the ball and combine it with a 3 yard passing game? SK deserves blame for the roster. What I saw on Sunday was players out of position and an O scheme and QB designed to lose. I'm not blaming Wilks yet. He deserves time to turn this around. If he stubbornly allows Bradford to kill both DJ and LF and McCoy to run this O and If he puts CJ in position where he can't get to the QB and PP is being run over by running backs on the edge, I'm going to run out of patience. Wilks better get things turned around. SK deserves criticism for a couple of blown drafts. Right now we are getting almost no production out of 1st round picks for 4 straight years. That can't happen. The panic move for Bradford was dumb but he did it. It's up to Wilks to move on from it fast. Did Keim change to a 4-3? No, but it was obvious in the interview that's where Wilks would go. If somehow it didn't come out in the interview then Keim has to be fired for not knowing that.
So no, Keim did not change to a 4-3. But he knew the guy he hired was going to change to a 4-3.
I think this 4-3 thing is simply a ruse to cover over how badly coached this team really is. Look at the historically bad offense. I'd bet those numbers they have put up are among the worst we have seen in a decade in the NFL. We are way behind team number 31. If this was European soccer we'd be relegated to the next lower tier next season (CFL?). |
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