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Post by JustTwoBeers on Sept 9, 2018 14:51:11 GMT -7
Don't blame the rough start on Wilks and even McCoy. They are coaches with experience and expertise running certain types of systems that work well for them. The person who is supposed to buy the parts for the Wilks/McCoy engine is the GM--KEIM. He rolled with too many has-beens and stuck with bust draft picks from prior years. Not to mention he decides to gets hammered on the Fourth of July and drive--I mean everyone knows you dont drink and drive on any day, but especially fourth of July.
Ultimately, Bidwill made a grave mistake sticking with Keim. He should have used Bruce's retirement to give the team a fresh start. Something tells me Bidwill and Keim haven't really understood and gotten over the catastrophe at the end of 2015. I think its a large reason this team hasn't made the necessary changes.
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Post by Rimrock on Sept 9, 2018 15:04:59 GMT -7
this team was not built to win this year..lol
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Post by itancanwa on Sept 9, 2018 15:55:45 GMT -7
I some what agree with you. But he wasn;t the one running or throwing the ball. And the defense as a whole couldn't stop Alabama. One of the top 10 worst games I have ever seen the Cards play. It seemed like they didn't even show up to play.
If they don't pick it up, it's going to be a looong season. Those talking heads will be smiling. Have to show 200 % improvement next game, or this is what we might have the rest of the year. |
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Post by itancanwa on Sept 9, 2018 15:56:56 GMT -7
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There is a difference between loosing and getting stomped ! |
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Post by ~MainEvent~ on Sept 9, 2018 15:58:32 GMT -7
Reality of a rebuild finally hit you huh?
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Post by rooseveltcardsfan on Sept 9, 2018 16:21:37 GMT -7
It’s every body’s fault.. There were some bright spots.. lots of work to be done.
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Post by r1ppedcardfan on Sept 9, 2018 16:26:02 GMT -7
I'm just here to watch everyone freak out. I happened to be at work the whole first half when it was already 21-0.... the second half isn't gonna make me jump off the ledge and I dont overreact to 1 game especially with a new offensive and defensive system.
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Post by aris on Sept 9, 2018 16:32:36 GMT -7
It’s every body’s fault.. There were some bright spots.. lots of work to be done. Some bright spots? Really...…..? |
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Post by Dry Heat on Sept 9, 2018 16:43:55 GMT -7
The best Dline play today came from Nkemdiche. Best special teams play was from Kirk. Mason Cole did well. DJ looked good. A few bright spots from recent Keim draft picks and contract extensions.
We have work to do on Oline, Dline, WR and TE...same things I have been saying before this game. I had hoped CB2 was addressed but that didn’t look good today. We have a draft, a year of settling in to new schemes and players, and tens of millions of cap space to address the deficiencies for the Rosen era in 2019. That’s what the big picture is.
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Post by SMITTY on Sept 9, 2018 16:52:19 GMT -7
This team needs to win 4 games or fire them all. BA's team in a down year was 8-8. Hard to watch. McCoy took a team with Tebow to the playtoffs, is Bradford this bad...yes.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2018 16:54:13 GMT -7
To the OP, nah it falls on the Coaches and their new reality.
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Post by bigangelg on Sept 9, 2018 16:54:37 GMT -7
The best Dline play today came from Nkemdiche. Best special teams play was from Kirk. Mason Cole did well. DJ looked good. A few bright spots from recent Keim draft picks and contract extensions. We have work to do on Oline, Dline, WR and TE...same things I have been saying before this game. I had hoped CB2 was addressed but that didn’t look good today. We have a draft, a year of settling in to new schemes and players, and tens of millions of cap space to address the deficiencies for the Rosen era in 2019. That’s what the big picture is. Yes, but why must it hurt so much? |
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Post by biggs on Sept 9, 2018 17:33:26 GMT -7
I actually bought tickets for this massacre. Now Wilks knows what General Custer felt like.
Wilks seems like a nice guy and a smart guy. He better get his head into both the O and D fast. If Bradford can't do anything to make a D respect him sit him down. He was outright horrible today. I actually tried to convince myself he didn't suck before buying tickets. Now that I know my eyes are fine, it's for our coaching staff to figure out a way to make a d respect something over 15 yards. If not DJ is going to be catching a lot of 4 yard passes along with a lot of linebackers. Bradford threw him right into a viscous hit right before half time and came very close to retiring LF twice. The difference between Smith and Bradford is Smith rarely throws down field but he's not afraid to hold onto the ball and can move around and wait for space to open up when he dumps a 5 yard pass. That creates space. Bradford not only doesn't create space for the short passing game he throws guys into the D to get the ball out of his hands.
The D has a problem. Our LB corp. has 2 first round picks on it and both of them can't shed a block. I know DBuck can because he has in the past. Reddick right now has no place on the field in this D.
I want to see Rosen obviously but if he's not ready they should start to think about Glennon before this gets bad fast. There is no reason to ever to throw a 5 yard pass on third and 6. How many 2 yard passes are you going to throw in a 21 to zip game?
BA for all his BS new how to make a D cover all the space on a football field. We made it to easy on Washington. They had to cover 6 yards and in from the LOS almost on every single play with a couple of exceptions.
I don't blame SK for this other than he had a couple of bad drafts and held onto the last competitive team a little to long. This year we need to get Rosen ready for next year and buy some Linebackers and a WR who can legitimately take the top off a football field. Not to mention have a really good draft. If Rosen is the real deal and Wilks can grow into the job SK will be okay. The have to be focused on both of those things. Wilks has to get this under control and if it means taking some control from McCoy, he better do it sooner than later.
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Post by Raze on Sept 9, 2018 17:37:09 GMT -7
The best Dline play today came from Nkemdiche. Best special teams play was from Kirk. Mason Cole did well. DJ looked good. A few bright spots from recent Keim draft picks and contract extensions. We have work to do on Oline, Dline, WR and TE...same things I have been saying before this game. I had hoped CB2 was addressed but that didn’t look good today. We have a draft, a year of settling in to new schemes and players, and tens of millions of cap space to address the deficiencies for the Rosen era in 2019. That’s what the big picture is. Diche looked good at times. However, the entire D as a whole was AWFUL. Usually that can be attributed to miss tackles, but today it was also a lack of fundamental execution on assignments. Far too many gaps on run defense. Absolutely embarrassing. AND that is exactly what Wilks said would need to be our strength on D: stopping the run. (Bynes also had solid moments today, but I'm not giving anyone any kudos after this mess) There is no way this game falls on the O. The D gave up drives of 5, 6, 9, and 3 minutes in the first half. That's a 23 to 7 TOS split. The game was over at halftime and you could read it on the body language emanating from our D after the Reed TD. Sure the O needs to establish drives that yield points, but it's hard to do that when your D is so painfully incompetent. And let's not forget that our Oline came out pummeling on our first drive which was 4:26 TOP, where DJ had 4 carries for 24 yards. For anyone that still maintains any objectivity on Deone, we need to remember that he was drafted as a Safety (which he was really good at). BA is the one that forced him into the $ role which he dutifully then gained the necessary weight to adjust. He shouldn't be a LB. It really isn't his fault that he was horrid today. He's completely out of position. Best case for him is that he sheds the weight and plays his natural position at Safety. He's utterly useless against a road grading Oline like Washington. We need to add some considerable weight to our LB corps against teams like this. At many times we were vastly undersized with Deone and Bethea playing LB duty. A suggestion is remodeling the LBs. Minter might not excite anyone but he'd give us far better run stoppage than we currently have. And he's still a FA last time I looked. Bynes could slide outside. Whatever guy we need to sign, we need to do it now. We are in for a tail kicking next week against LA. They are just as physical on the Oline and have a bigger/better RB to shove it down our throats. The WR position is LITERALLY the last thing this teams needs to worry about. It's about as important as focusing on the waterboy at this point. LB corps, D scheming, and discipline on fundamentals (penalties) are 1, 2, and 3. |
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Post by biggs on Sept 9, 2018 17:45:54 GMT -7
The best Dline play today came from Nkemdiche. Best special teams play was from Kirk. Mason Cole did well. DJ looked good. A few bright spots from recent Keim draft picks and contract extensions. We have work to do on Oline, Dline, WR and TE...same things I have been saying before this game. I had hoped CB2 was addressed but that didn’t look good today. We have a draft, a year of settling in to new schemes and players, and tens of millions of cap space to address the deficiencies for the Rosen era in 2019. That’s what the big picture is. Diche looked good at times. However, the entire D as a whole was AWFUL. Usually that can be attributed to miss tackles, but today it was also a lack of fundamental execution on assignments. Far too many gaps on run defense. Absolutely embarrassing. AND that is exactly what Wilks said would need to be our strength on D: stopping the run. (Bynes also had solid moments today, but I'm not giving anyone any kudos after this mess) There is no way this game falls on the O. The D gave up drives of 5, 6, 9, and 3 minutes in the first half. That's a 23 to 7 TOS split. The game was over at halftime and you could read it on the body language emanating from our D after the Reed TD. Sure the O needs to establish drives that yield points, but it's hard to do that when your D is so painfully incompetent. And let's not forget that our Oline came out pummeling on our first drive which was 4:26 TOP, where DJ had 4 carries for 24 yards. For anyone that still maintains any objectivity on Deone, we need to remember that he was drafted as a Safety (which he was really good at). BA is the one that forced him into the $ role which he dutifully then gained the necessary weight to adjust. He shouldn't be a LB. It really isn't his fault that he was horrid today. He's completely out of position. Best case for him is that he sheds the weight and plays his natural position at Safety. He's utterly useless against a road grading Oline like Washington. We need to add some considerable weight to our LB corps against teams like this. At many times we were vastly undersized with Deone and Bethea playing LB duty. A suggestion is remodeling the LBs. Minter might not excite anyone but he'd give us far better run stoppage than we currently have. And he's still a FA last time I looked. Bynes could slide outside. Whatever guy we need to sign, we need to do it now. We are in for a tail kicking next week against LA. They are just as physical on the Oline and have a bigger/better RB to shove it down our throats. The WR position is LITERALLY the last thing this teams needs to worry about. It's about as important as focusing on the waterboy at this point. LB corps, D scheming, and discipline on fundamentals (penalties) are 1, 2, and 3. The O scored zero points in the first half. They deserver plenty of the blame. I agree WR doesn't matter at all if you're going to throw the ball 4 yards 90% of the time. |
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