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Post by aussiecardfan on Sept 11, 2024 15:56:34 GMT -7
What’s everyone’s thoughts on Kyler saying it’s not his job to get MHJ the ball?
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Post by MT Diesel on Sept 11, 2024 18:25:32 GMT -7
I am glad this showed up on the forum. The NFL has been using a 14-year-old nerd with the NFL App as an expert fan-shaming grown men. The NFL has a low view of the NFL fan and commercials like this highlight the arrogance of the NFL. The low end of the low-level NFL fan is a fantasy FB expert and knows nothing about the sport. They made an auto-pick draft and those App sporting nerds get schooled by their sister and are angry everyone told them MHJ was a fantasy lock and are angry his fantasy numbers were in the cellar and thus the inter-web posts the one line that is the subject of this thread. Not worthy of a response on a non-FB quote or an accurate quote by K1. Pure fantasy anger.  To clarify, my post is not about the person Aussiecardfan and is solely about the internet rumor that made this false K1 quote. I respect others' opinions, but some interweb chatter is nonsense. |
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Post by aussiecardfan on Sept 11, 2024 18:49:30 GMT -7
I am glad this showed up on the forum. The NFL has been using a 14-year-old nerd with the NFL App as an expert fan-shaming grown men. The NFL has a low view of the NFL fan and commercials like this highlight the arrogance of the NFL. The low end of the low-level NFL fan is a fantasy FB expert and knows nothing about the sport. They made an auto-pick draft and those App sporting nerds get schooled by their sister and are angry everyone told them MHJ was a fantasy lock and are angry his fantasy numbers were in the cellar and thus the inter-web posts the one line that is the subject of this thread. Not worthy of a response on a non-FB quote or an accurate quote by K1. Pure fantasy anger. To clarify, my post is not about the person Aussiecardfan and is solely about the internet rumor that made this false K1 quote. I respect others' opinions, but some interweb chatter is nonsense. It has nothing to do about fantasy football. Kyler said it’s not his job to get him the ball, it’s the offensive coordinators job. |
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Post by aussiecardfan on Sept 11, 2024 18:51:18 GMT -7
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Post by Dry Heat on Sept 11, 2024 19:34:09 GMT -7
His job is to win, not get any player stats. He is correct.
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Post by aussiecardfan on Sept 11, 2024 21:44:57 GMT -7
His job is to win, not get any player stats. He is correct. Once again no mention of stats. Surely looking for your new 6 ft 4 weapon when he is wide open gives you a better chance to win. Surely not panicking under pressure and throwing a lob to a 5 ft nothing receiver is not your best chance of winning. Kyler is not a winner. |
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Post by Dry Heat on Sept 11, 2024 23:25:18 GMT -7
His job is to win, not get any player stats. He is correct. Once again no mention of stats. Surely looking for your new 6 ft 4 weapon when he is wide open gives you a better chance to win. Surely not panicking under pressure and throwing a lob to a 5 ft nothing receiver is not your best chance of winning. Kyler is not a winner. He should have gotten that pass to MHJ, but he is correct it’s not his job to feed MHJ, or any other player. You don’t get it? |
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Post by aussiecardfan on Sept 12, 2024 0:22:46 GMT -7
Him saying it’s not his job, it’s the oc job to get the ball to MHJ is a sellout. Just shows he still has zero leadership. So yes I get it.
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Post by jeffcardinalfan on Sept 12, 2024 2:32:35 GMT -7
The little dude is correct but he's also wrong for saying it. Everybody knows if the Cardinals are going to do anything at all this year him and Harrison have to click and click big.
If I were the Cardinals head coach then at least in one day of practice this week I would have told the little dude to throw the ball to Harrison every single play. They're not going to develop chemistry with one another unless that is emphasized in practice.
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Post by CardsFanQC on Sept 12, 2024 3:31:12 GMT -7
What I really don't understand and part of the reason I thought the team getting rid of small receivers was 6'4" WR's are a mismatch vs. 5'9"-5'10" corners and safeties. If the Bills blitz with 6, then either McBride or MHJ has single coverage .. - Throw the ball to the player having single coverage no matter what when your options are MHJ and/or McBride
- One way to make a team pay when dialing up more blitzes, is to throw in a screen pass to the RB. In the first half I saw several screen passes but then in 2nd half, Petzing forgot he had it on the play sheet?
- Did the offense in 2nd half put a TE next to Beachum and have him chip Rosseau (AFC defensive player of the week) before going out in the pass pattern.
The Chiefs employ both the screen to Pacheco and Kelce chipping a rusher going out about 3-4 yds turnaround and get the ball thrown to him when the defense sends blitzers. This way the Chiefs are able to frustrate their opponent and pick up positive yards on each play creating a lot of 3rd and short situations .... guess what teams don't pass-blitz on 3rd and short.
P.S. I will also watch KM1 and those couple of plays each week where the QB must just stand in the pocket when his WR breaks open and JUST STAND THERE and DELIVER THE BALL while taking a hit. Also I will be watching if the Cards offense is using a lot of pre-snap motion ... one way last Sunday to make the Bills secondary communicate and put stress on them would be to put MHJ in motion. I don't recall much pre-snap motion (McVay of the Rams uses motion more than any team) and certainly don't remember doing it with MHJ.
The Cards must win this game and they'll have a decent chance to be 2-2 at the first qtr pole of the season.
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Post by CardCore on Sept 12, 2024 5:37:53 GMT -7
I just see the fans rubbing their hands and salivating at the prospect of MHJ running routes unfettered and catching passes left and right.
The Buffalo Bills coaching staff saw that well before the game ALSO, and they made a decision: The Bills will not lose this game due to a rookie WR running loose all day. So they used a ton of double coverage on MHJ. So that begs the question: Is it anybody's job to make sure MHJ get's passes thrown to him in double coverage? No. Everybody has heard the words, "take what the defense is giving you."
K1 could probably have phrased an answer that sounded better, but I get it. After losing a game then having to answer questions from a reporter that's hell bent on becoming a blame-thrower has to get old. Even if it IS game one....
Still...at least TRY to put forth a more professional image?
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Post by End Zone on Sept 12, 2024 5:56:11 GMT -7
I just see the fans rubbing their hands and salivating at the prospect of MHJ running routes unfettered and catching passes left and right. The Buffalo Bills coaching staff saw that well before the game ALSO, and they made a decision: The Bills will not lose this game due to a rookie WR running loose all day. So they used a ton of double coverage on MHJ. So that begs the question: Is it anybody's job to make sure MHJ get's passes thrown to him in double coverage? No. Everybody has heard the words, "take what the defense is giving you." K1 could probably have phrased an answer that sounded better, but I get it. After losing a game then having to answer questions from a reporter that's hell bent on becoming a blame-thrower has to get old. Even if it IS game one.... Still...at least TRY to put forth a more professional image? Extremely well said, CC. MHJ toadies and fantasizers want their pound of flesh. They won't get it. Murray is not the most articulate QB in the NFL. His pretzel-like remarks to the media were a jumble, twisty, choppy, and ultimately misunderstood. The context is hard to find. I had to read the quote twice to piece together what I assume was Murray telling the media that the OC designs and calls the plays. The QB then decides the best option after a snap. MHJ was not the best option most snaps. MHJ ran 55 routes out of 60/61 snaps last week. He was targeted by Murray 3 times. MHJ made a ton of mistakes and likely learned a lot. He will get some receptions, yards, and TDs this year. I'm patient. |
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Post by MT Diesel on Sept 12, 2024 6:29:06 GMT -7
Him saying it’s not his job, it’s the oc job to get the ball to MHJ is a sellout. Just shows he still has zero leadership. So yes I get it. I was hoping you were not taking the couple words of a K1 quote out of context. K1 haters feast on anything they can find. This is just a form of trashing a player that some people do not like. You have expressed your displeasure in K1 clearly. I put more stock on Beachum's take on K1's current leadership in an interview a month ago. Beach did not hold back a couple years ago that (at the time) K1 was immature and wasn't showing leadership. A month ago Beach was asked about his current take on K1...his take was K1 has matured and is being a good leader. This isn't the take of just one player on the team, but rather the same take given by other players in interviews this year and the coaches. Haters will hate whether it is accurate or real. Nice...K1's compliments of MHJ in the full K1 comment are not mentioned. K1 and MHJ have given support of each other post game. MHJ will get his opportunities. K1 is the leader on the offense. The two trust each other. What about McBride his role was minimal? What about Wilson his role was minimal? Conner was ignored in the second half? It wasn't a loss by K1 it was a team loss and it would have been a team win. MHJ getting 3 targets and dropped a third of them...happened. It wasn't K1 having poor leadership or not doing his job. The Bills were committed to taking MHJ out of the game and succeeded. There were also comments post game the coaches and game plan were not prepared for that. K1 is the franchise QB of the Cards and is better than many other starting QBs. Goff was terrible and had 43 PFF and threw balls into the turf most of the game and is loved...since the Lions won...is Goff a bad leader since St Brown was ignored and Goff didn't do his job. Goff actually didn't do his job and despite that the Lion's won. |
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Post by CardCore on Sept 12, 2024 6:30:54 GMT -7
I just see the fans rubbing their hands and salivating at the prospect of MHJ running routes unfettered and catching passes left and right. The Buffalo Bills coaching staff saw that well before the game ALSO, and they made a decision: The Bills will not lose this game due to a rookie WR running loose all day. So they used a ton of double coverage on MHJ. So that begs the question: Is it anybody's job to make sure MHJ get's passes thrown to him in double coverage? No. Everybody has heard the words, "take what the defense is giving you." K1 could probably have phrased an answer that sounded better, but I get it. After losing a game then having to answer questions from a reporter that's hell bent on becoming a blame-thrower has to get old. Even if it IS game one.... Still...at least TRY to put forth a more professional image? Extremely well said, CC. MHJ toadies and fantasizers want their pound of flesh. They won't get it. Murray is not the most articulate QB in the NFL. His pretzel-like remarks to the media were a jumble, twisty, choppy, and ultimately misunderstood. The context is hard to find. I had to read the quote twice to piece together what I assume was Murray telling the media that the OC designs and calls the plays. The QB then decides the best option after a snap. MHJ was not the best option most snaps. MHJ ran 55 routes out of 60/61 snaps last week. He was targeted by Murray 3 times. MHJ made a ton of mistakes and likely learned a lot. He will get some receptions, yards, and TDs this year. I'm patient. Thanks EZ...I have a feeling the Bills blueprint will likely be followed more than once this season, so eventually K1 will have to develop a similar mindset to the one he employed with DHop: Even when he's covered, he's still open. Just like Warner used w/ Fitz. It's just a tad tough early on when the QB's concerned with earning the A-hole of the month award for throwing int's.  I realize you already know this stuff, but there may be someone who comes along that didn't really....  |
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Post by MT Diesel on Sept 12, 2024 6:34:22 GMT -7
What I really don't understand and part of the reason I thought the team getting rid of small receivers was 6'4" WR's are a mismatch vs. 5'9"-5'10" corners and safeties. If the Bills blitz with 6, then either McBride or MHJ has single coverage .. - Throw the ball to the player having single coverage no matter what when your options are MHJ and/or McBride
- One way to make a team pay when dialing up more blitzes, is to throw in a screen pass to the RB. In the first half I saw several screen passes but then in 2nd half, Petzing forgot he had it on the play sheet?
- Did the offense in 2nd half put a TE next to Beachum and have him chip Rosseau (AFC defensive player of the week) before going out in the pass pattern.
The Chiefs employ both the screen to Pacheco and Kelce chipping a rusher going out about 3-4 yds turnaround and get the ball thrown to him when the defense sends blitzers. This way the Chiefs are able to frustrate their opponent and pick up positive yards on each play creating a lot of 3rd and short situations .... guess what teams don't pass-blitz on 3rd and short.
P.S. I will also watch KM1 and those couple of plays each week where the QB must just stand in the pocket when his WR breaks open and JUST STAND THERE and DELIVER THE BALL while taking a hit. Also I will be watching if the Cards offense is using a lot of pre-snap motion ... one way last Sunday to make the Bills secondary communicate and put stress on them would be to put MHJ in motion. I don't recall much pre-snap motion (McVay of the Rams uses motion more than any team) and certainly don't remember doing it with MHJ.
The Cards must win this game and they'll have a decent chance to be 2-2 at the first qtr pole of the season.
I think you make a good point. Who designs the play and or the motion to give a specific player on offense an advantage to get the ball on a play...The QB? or The HC? |
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