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Post by BigRedFan on Jun 26, 2024 17:53:05 GMT -7
The Arizona Cardinals were expected to do nothing in the first year of the Gannon/Ossenfort regime. However, the culture set by the new regime resonated enough thru' the locker room to set a future precedent for success. God bless Josh Dobbs for his grit and rocket science intelligence to beat a heavily favored Dallas Cowboys' team. Kyler's return for the final 8 games was...'encouraging?' He finishes at 3-5, but could've been 5-3. Wasn't Murray's fault. Prater solidifies the Cardinals with the 4th pick with his shank against Seattle in week 17. Forum Predictions vs. Betting odds set at 6 to 6.5 to even 7 wins. Your predictions! www.azcardinals.com/schedule/ |
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Post by CardCore on Jun 26, 2024 19:51:23 GMT -7
8 Ws is the floor IMO. I do believe this is a sleeper team for the playoffs, literally.
Seems like the majority that are basically clueless have the Cardinals w/ a losing record,which is nothing new. I would not be surprised to see 9 or 10 wins.
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Post by Dry Heat on Jun 26, 2024 21:02:50 GMT -7
I’ve had a gut feeling that 9 is the number this season. Just over .500 feels right.
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Post by JAB on Jun 26, 2024 22:02:20 GMT -7
7 this year max. Next year the rebuild should be over and we better be good.
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Post by End Zone on Jun 27, 2024 3:57:02 GMT -7
As of 27 June, I'm the sole voter sticking my neck out and forecasting 9+ wins in the poll above. Why 9+?
First, the Cardinals are grossly underrated because of their consistent losing history. The team is always ranked down because of their history. 9 wins is barely .500. This team is certainly capable of winning half their games. A few timely breaks and surprise wins will push the team into double digit wins.
Second, the starting QB is good to go for 2024. The Offense is improved, especially the WR and RB group. I think the OL can protect KM this season, especially if he takes 33% or more snaps under Center. I'd like to see him in Shotgun on less than half the plays. That's a lot to ask of KM since he loves the QB run option 'out of the gun'.
Third, the HC, OC, and DC are on their 2nd year. The team struggled with the first-year staff and no starting QB in 2023. Those issues are in the rearview mirror now. The team culture has definitely taken root. Good things are going to happen because the GM, HC, and entire staff are a team now.
Lastly, I think the NFL handed the Cardinals the ideal schedule opportunity. It's been many years since the downtrodden Cardinals got a break with a team friendly schedule. The Bye is perfectly scheduled.
So, 9+ is my vote.
EZ
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Post by flash on Jun 28, 2024 6:16:56 GMT -7
I am very confident that we will get 9 wins. That would give us a winning season.
Our CB Corp will be much better than last season for one reason...
MARVIN HARRISON JR!!!!!
Marvin will make our CB's better. If they can learn to cover Marvin, then they should be able to cover Kupp, Nakua, Deebo, Ayuk, Kittle, Lockett, Metcalf and Njigba.
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Post by MT Diesel on Jun 30, 2024 17:32:26 GMT -7
I would be astonished to see less than a 10-win season in 2024. Yes, I am a homer(not only as a Card fan, but on multiple levels  with the buy-in and K1 looking good and saying all the right things and many players are dropping SB...there is a confidence you want to see. As JG mentioned last year...don't get it twisted. This coaching staff is loaded with quality control types who have played and love coaching and developing young players and can identify and communicate roles and the players with attributes to carry out those roles and communicate it to the players they are trying to sign or draft. Long story short they have a detailed plan and are getting player buy-in. Along with coaches, the GM Monti and Sears are great at locating the correct personnel, they understand the money side and have the confidence to walk if the money doesn't make sense and do not hand out long-term contracts without a solid reason. Even the UDFA choices are great-value guys who are realistic roster options. The roster may not have the best PFF guys, but they value diversity and size in the trenches. The previous staff never provided K1 with the needed tools, plan or scheme for him to succeed and he still did decent. I do not see K1 yelling at JG on the sidelines. |
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Post by cardinalsins on Jun 30, 2024 18:30:17 GMT -7
I was listening to a podcast made by some NFL lineman...it's a very interesting listen since it comes from some guys that know what they are talking about open.spotify.com/episode/0p2OqxvXu5COTK12O1KnKg?si=FhhvBXOrT-SLmyeSZYmRYgWithin, they rate the worst NFL lines in the league. We were bottom third in every members list. Granted, they stated that rankings are volatile, and are highly contingent on tackle strength. To them, we have too many questions. Paris needs to make an improvement, and he probably won't have too much help from whoever wins the LG job From a analytics perspective, we don't score well on the OL either...and it's not limited to PFF. Thus, given the state of our OL..I chose 7-9 wins. |
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Post by MT Diesel on Jun 30, 2024 19:16:55 GMT -7
I was listening to a podcast made by some NFL lineman...it's a very interesting listen since it comes from some guys that know what they are talking about open.spotify.com/episode/0p2OqxvXu5COTK12O1KnKg?si=FhhvBXOrT-SLmyeSZYmRYgWithin, they rate the worst NFL lines in the league. We were bottom third in every members list. Granted, they stated that rankings are volatile, and are highly contingent on tackle strength. To them, we have too many questions. Paris needs to make an improvement, and he probably won't have too much help from whoever wins the LG job From a analytics perspective, we don't score well on the OL either...and it's not limited to PFF. Thus, given the state of our OL..I chose 7-9 wins. I think you will be pleasantly surprised with how the 2024 OL performs...Evan Brown is a Sears guy and J Jones is a 1st round Tackle who is large and has issues with the fast edge players. Much like last year...no one projected Hjalte would be as good of a Center as he actually is. I have no issue with Paris...he will be better in his second year and he has the physical attributes as well as ability to change technique and switched from left to right for 2023 and to go back to his natural side seems plausible. To have a base of Hernandez, Hjalte and Paris from 2023 and J Jones is a proven starter and they have more options at LG and Beech is still there who is a great swing tackle and proven tackle on left or right. This coaching staff is better at details and Monti continues to provide more player options than SK could ever think of. The two rookie OL players are not to be overlooked as well. Tip as a blocking TE who is the size of an OL player can shadow J Jones outside shoulder to protect him from the speed rush. K1 doesn't need an elite OL, but does need the middle of the pocket not to collapse on him. K1 from center more as well as a true play action threat lends to helping the OL. Cards are deep at TE, WR (tall outside options), and RBs...K1 may have to get rid of the ball fast...and he has proven ability to be able to do this when he has above average options over 6 foot tall. The funny thing is a PFF analyst just mentioned K1 just needs the OL to be average or close to average. I think the OL will be more of a strength than most will give them credit. We will find out in less than 2 months. |
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Post by thomas cat on Jun 30, 2024 19:21:28 GMT -7
I was listening to a podcast made by some NFL lineman...it's a very interesting listen since it comes from some guys that know what they are talking about open.spotify.com/episode/0p2OqxvXu5COTK12O1KnKg?si=FhhvBXOrT-SLmyeSZYmRYgWithin, they rate the worst NFL lines in the league. We were bottom third in every members list. Granted, they stated that rankings are volatile, and are highly contingent on tackle strength. To them, we have too many questions. Paris needs to make an improvement, and he probably won't have too much help from whoever wins the LG job From a analytics perspective, we don't score well on the OL either...and it's not limited to PFF. Thus, given the state of our OL..I chose 7-9 wins. You and the article may well be right. I try to tamp down my homerism but it's hard. There are just too many things I see this year to say this may be different. PFF scores are meaningful, but they change every year from what they were the year before, individual players and groups of players alike. This will be our regimes second year. Last year, they had little to work with but showed improvement. We have more tools now. Will it be enough....well we are going to see. It's going to be a big year in many ways. We are going to find out if JG and MO knows what they are doing. Yeah, I'm a homer, but I'm betting they do.  |
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Post by Cardinals Junkie on Jun 30, 2024 21:41:41 GMT -7
7-9. I'm optimistic this year for an entertaining season.
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Post by cardinal225 on Jul 1, 2024 3:56:56 GMT -7
9 plus wins.
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Post by cardinal225 on Jul 1, 2024 3:57:42 GMT -7
I was listening to a podcast made by some NFL lineman...it's a very interesting listen since it comes from some guys that know what they are talking about open.spotify.com/episode/0p2OqxvXu5COTK12O1KnKg?si=FhhvBXOrT-SLmyeSZYmRYgWithin, they rate the worst NFL lines in the league. We were bottom third in every members list. Granted, they stated that rankings are volatile, and are highly contingent on tackle strength. To them, we have too many questions. Paris needs to make an improvement, and he probably won't have too much help from whoever wins the LG job From a analytics perspective, we don't score well on the OL either...and it's not limited to PFF. Thus, given the state of our OL..I chose 7-9 wins. You and the article may well be right. I try to tamp down my homerism but it's hard. There are just too many things I see this year to say this may be different. PFF scores are meaningful, but they change every year from what they were the year before, individual players and groups of players alike. This will be our regimes second year. Last year, they had little to work with but showed improvement. We have more tools now. Will it be enough....well we are going to see. It's going to be a big year in many ways. We are going to find out if JG and MO knows what they are doing. Yeah, I'm a homer, but I'm betting they do. they ranked bad last year and we still rushed for 2,000 yards. I wouldn’t put too much stock in rankings |
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Post by devongent on Jul 3, 2024 10:29:13 GMT -7
I'm pitching for an eleven win season.
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Post by Dry Heat on Jul 3, 2024 12:09:40 GMT -7
I'm pitching for an eleven win season. I hope you’re correct devongent. You’re a bit more optimistic than me. 4 wins to 11 would be Coach of the Year type stuff. But a full season of Kyler and the on paper upgrades of each position room…one can make the case for it. |
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with the buy-in and K1 looking good and saying all the right things and many players are dropping SB...there is a confidence you want to see. As JG mentioned last year...don't get it twisted. This coaching staff is loaded with quality control types who have played and love coaching and developing young players and can identify and communicate roles and the players with attributes to carry out those roles and communicate it to the players they are trying to sign or draft. Long story short they have a detailed plan and are getting player buy-in.
