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Post by End Zone on Apr 10, 2024 10:42:14 GMT -7
well yeah if we knew which one of these quarterbacks would go to the Hall of Fame eventually then surely would draft him. Just let us know when you figure out which one it is. Personally I don't care for any of them except McCarthy You like a guy that wasn't asked to do much at the college level , Are teams really gonna send so many picks on that and what is it about him that you like more then the guy's rated above him ? he right now has been hyped so much he had better be better then he was in college. If someone pulls the trigger for this guy someone I think loses their job. NE is a team that is allegedly eyeballing McCarthy who is rumored to be moving up some GM's charts. One team rumored to be highly interested in McCarthy is NE. If Belichick was still HC at NE, I don't think Belichick would pay much attention to McCarthy. But Belichick also signed FA Newton. And Newton beat former HC Kingsbury. I don't know what that all means for McCarthy on April 26th. Probably nothing.
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Post by Redbirdfan62 on Apr 10, 2024 11:08:42 GMT -7
You like a guy that wasn't asked to do much at the college level , Are teams really gonna send so many picks on that and what is it about him that you like more then the guy's rated above him ? he right now has been hyped so much he had better be better then he was in college. If someone pulls the trigger for this guy someone I think loses their job. NE is a team that is allegedly eyeballing McCarthy who is rumored to be moving up some GM's charts. One team rumored to be highly interested in McCarthy is NE. If Belichick was still HC at NE, I don't think Belichick would pay much attention to McCarthy. But Belichick also signed FA Newton. And Newton beat former HC Kingsbury. I don't know what that all means for McCarthy on April 26th. Probably nothing. EH this literally is the lying season and everyone has motive. Funny thing is no one has a clue what the Cardinals are doing or if McCarthy will drop in the draft. How bout this they want another to drop so they pump someone else up.
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Post by jeffcardinalfan on Apr 10, 2024 12:13:36 GMT -7
well yeah if we knew which one of these quarterbacks would go to the Hall of Fame eventually then surely would draft him. Just let us know when you figure out which one it is. Personally I don't care for any of them except McCarthy You like a guy that wasn't asked to do much at the college level , Are teams really gonna send so many picks on that and what is it about him that you like more then the guy's rated above him ? he right now has been hyped so much he had better be better then he was in college. If someone pulls the trigger for this guy someone I think loses their job. I didn't say I would give up the farm for McCarthy I just like him better than the others. Will know in 5 years right? I don't want the Cardinals to draft any of the top four guys but I do sincerely hope that several teams are desperate enough for a quarterback that they give us the farm.
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Post by jeffcardinalfan on Apr 10, 2024 12:16:25 GMT -7
It would be hilarious if Nabors ended up the best WR in this class and we passed on him all because we feel we are forced to take the taller WRs due to Kyler's limitations. I've talked at length about how we keep drafting to cover Kyler's shortcomings instead of just going BPA. Put another way, if Jefferson was coming out of college this year, we'd have passed on him at WR based on the logic many have tossed out about Kyler needing giant WRs. Why would that be funny ? Looking at MHJ it he looks to be the BPA thats from many different observations. First thing Nabers needs to fix is letting defenders into him where they can stick to him. Can he be taught out of that bad habit of the shoulder dip and any other shortcoming that is yet to be seen, then we can consider him as good as MHJ because MHJ has no weakness in his game. That is overthinking it draft someone that you think could be special now that was the Keim way right ? if our quarterback is short then the best player available for our team is not a receiver unless he is tall. I believe in best player available but in a modified form. I think you draft the best player available that feels a position of need on your roster. For example if you have two All-Pro safety's on your roster you don't draft another one in the first or second round of the draft regardless of how good of a prospect they may be
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Post by End Zone on Apr 10, 2024 14:30:42 GMT -7
First, our #1 QB is comparatively short. That's a fact, until he goes away in year ( ?? ). Second, the next ARZ QB might also be 5'-10", or less short....LOL. No one knows the year the team will be fed up with last place NFCW finishes. I hope that year is now. Thus, why not draft and sign tall receivers? At least 6'-2" tall at a minimum? Help our little man QB. Or move on.
Go Cardinals!
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Post by Dry Heat on Apr 10, 2024 18:29:51 GMT -7
You like a guy that wasn't asked to do much at the college level , Are teams really gonna send so many picks on that and what is it about him that you like more then the guy's rated above him ? he right now has been hyped so much he had better be better then he was in college. If someone pulls the trigger for this guy someone I think loses their job. NE is a team that is allegedly eyeballing McCarthy who is rumored to be moving up some GM's charts. One team rumored to be highly interested in McCarthy is NE. If Belichick was still HC at NE, I don't think Belichick would pay much attention to McCarthy. But Belichick also signed FA Newton. And Newton beat former HC Kingsbury. I don't know what that all means for McCarthy on April 26th. Probably nothing. Some might say Belichick’s career was built on the back of a Michigan QB.
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Post by jeffcardinalfan on Apr 11, 2024 3:05:44 GMT -7
I still think the Cardinals have to see what the little dude can do when healthy with an improved offensive line and better receivers before decisions made. If for no other reason and because of the money involved. When they first contracts with huge amounts of guaranteed money were announced I immediately thought that teams who made the wrong decision on giving that much money to one player, usually quarterbacks would set their franchise back five or six years. We're already seeing that with the Denver broncos and there will be others.
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Post by End Zone on Apr 11, 2024 3:11:58 GMT -7
NE is a team that is allegedly eyeballing McCarthy who is rumored to be moving up some GM's charts. One team rumored to be highly interested in McCarthy is NE. If Belichick was still HC at NE, I don't think Belichick would pay much attention to McCarthy. But Belichick also signed FA Newton. And Newton beat former HC Kingsbury. I don't know what that all means for McCarthy on April 26th. Probably nothing. Some might say Belichick’s career was built on the back of a Michigan QB. Good point. Brady is a University of Michigan alumni. Belichick's SB glory years could not have happened without the former Michigan QB.
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Post by End Zone on Apr 11, 2024 3:15:39 GMT -7
I still think the Cardinals have to see what the little dude can do when healthy with an improved offensive line and better receivers before decisions made. If for no other reason and because of the money involved. When they first contracts with huge amounts of guaranteed money were announced I immediately thought that teams who made the wrong decision on giving that much money to one player, usually quarterbacks would set their franchise back five or six years. We're already seeing that with the Denver broncos and there will be others. Yep. After the 2024 season is done, the Little Dude has got no other player excuses to lean on. Little Dude puts up in 2024, or he shuts up at ARZ forevermore.
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Post by jeffcardinalfan on Apr 11, 2024 10:17:28 GMT -7
I still think the Cardinals have to see what the little dude can do when healthy with an improved offensive line and better receivers before decisions made. If for no other reason and because of the money involved. When they first contracts with huge amounts of guaranteed money were announced I immediately thought that teams who made the wrong decision on giving that much money to one player, usually quarterbacks would set their franchise back five or six years. We're already seeing that with the Denver broncos and there will be others. Yep. After the 2024 season is done, the Little Dude has got no other player excuses to lean on. Little Dude puts up in 2024, or he shuts up at ARZ forevermore. the only reason why I called him the little dude is because for whatever reason my voice texting will not pick up his name and I do not like to manually text so there's no other reason than that
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Post by Redbirdfan62 on Apr 11, 2024 13:45:21 GMT -7
You like a guy that wasn't asked to do much at the college level , Are teams really gonna send so many picks on that and what is it about him that you like more then the guy's rated above him ? he right now has been hyped so much he had better be better then he was in college. If someone pulls the trigger for this guy someone I think loses their job. I didn't say I would give up the farm for McCarthy I just like him better than the others. Will know in 5 years right? I don't want the Cardinals to draft any of the top four guys but I do sincerely hope that several teams are desperate enough for a quarterback that they give us the farm. I don't think it is likely to give up that much and he bust's whoever they take it will the Gm his job unless someone falls they really wanted.
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Post by Redbirdfan62 on Apr 11, 2024 13:49:49 GMT -7
NE is a team that is allegedly eyeballing McCarthy who is rumored to be moving up some GM's charts. One team rumored to be highly interested in McCarthy is NE. If Belichick was still HC at NE, I don't think Belichick would pay much attention to McCarthy. But Belichick also signed FA Newton. And Newton beat former HC Kingsbury. I don't know what that all means for McCarthy on April 26th. Probably nothing. Some might say Belichick’s career was built on the back of a Michigan QB. Belichick was a good coach no doubt but the GOAT won without Belichick lol he get's the nod in that conversation.
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Post by Redbirdfan62 on Apr 11, 2024 13:51:36 GMT -7
Yep. After the 2024 season is done, the Little Dude has got no other player excuses to lean on. Little Dude puts up in 2024, or he shuts up at ARZ forevermore. the only reason why I called him the little dude is because for whatever reason my voice texting will not pick up his name and I do not like to manually text so there's no other reason than that lol so called smart phones can't even speak english .
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Post by End Zone on Apr 11, 2024 16:21:19 GMT -7
Yep. After the 2024 season is done, the Little Dude has got no other player excuses to lean on. Little Dude puts up in 2024, or he shuts up at ARZ forevermore. the only reason why I called him the little dude is because for whatever reason my voice texting will not pick up his name and I do not like to manually text so there's no other reason than that I think the moniker is really cute. I have no problem with it. Good luck with the software.
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Post by CardCore on Apr 11, 2024 20:27:30 GMT -7
Can we at least give K1 a full season under the new regime to fail or get injured to validate his diminutive stature before we write off his career as the Cardinals' franchise guy? Murray was developed by the biggest boob head coach, general manager and pathetic DC in NFL organizational HISTORY! Kingsbury, Keim and Vance Joseph. Murray was set up for failure from the start with Kingsbury and Keim and VJ's miss use of newly drafted talent was awful. Yet Murray put the Cardinal offense on his back while improvising without any KK leadership structure and promptly pushed the Cardinals into the playoffs. Granted, the loss to the Rams was embarrassing, but truly look at the roster the Cardinals put on the field for that game. AJ Green's inability to hear K1's audible v. Green Bay on that Thursday Night clash of Titans, imo, set the franchise back as K1 finished that last drive injured and if Green hears the signal, K1 and the Cardinals walk that win off. Murray misses the next few weeks with an injury and the momentum, CREATED by Kyler Murray is destroyed when it becomes Kingsbury and McCoy. Point being, let Murray fail under professional management and coaching before we cast him to the failed AZ Cardinals' Draft Pick scrap heap. JMO. I've actually been on board with giving Kyler a full season under new management. The point I made with the Bills comment, about eating Diggs money, is I don't think everyone can rule out a potential trade just based on cap stuff. I do disagree with those arguing Kyler's OL was the problem. A couple of years ago, analytics had our OL in the top 15. It was ranked #12 for awhile. Back when everyone thought it was the sole problem. And even Kingsbury admitted half the sacks were Kyler's fault, not the OL. So I don't know why some keep saying it's all the OL. It's not. I believe in giving Kyler this year to right the ship. I just think he needs competition to push him. Yeah. He needs competition like Drake Maye.
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