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Post by onanygivensunda on May 30, 2018 9:08:10 GMT -7
The path to sustained success in the NFL is littered with former players that didn't have the love for the game.
Nkemdiche looks to be another casualty.
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Post by r1ppedcardfan on May 30, 2018 15:08:36 GMT -7
I think the switch to a 4-3 and Wilks as HC could be a changing point for 'diche.... atleast I hope so. He should know by now that it's time to stop messing around and get serious. I'm sure his injuries have played a big part in his lack of production also.
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Post by itancanwa on May 31, 2018 8:06:46 GMT -7
It's not a question of talent with Niche. It's a question of wanting it with him. So far it doesn't seem like he wants it enough. Right now it's 50 / 50 on whether or not he is still on the Cards roster come next training camp. This is a big year to prove he wants it or not. If not.....see ya !
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Post by curmudgeon on Jun 1, 2018 15:37:09 GMT -7
Please don't compare "Bob" to Darnell Dockett the ferocious leader of our defense who registered 3 sacks in the Super bowl. Doc was a workout warrior who played through pain and dominated. Bob seems content to collect his paycheck and play his saxophone. Someone needs to seriously light a fire under his butt. Maybe he should hire Doc as a mentor, otherwise I imagine that one of the bands that play for free at the Courthouse up here in Prescott, might have an opening.
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Post by CrazyCanuck on Jun 2, 2018 11:46:03 GMT -7
Doc was a beast when the Cards were running a 4-3 designed for his quick penetration. He wasn't and his career wained when the Cards moved to a 3-4 and turned him into a D-end. And that's the point with NK: Perhaps playing in a D that is designed to maximize results from his inside quickness will prove positive.
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Post by Boomer on Jun 2, 2018 16:03:10 GMT -7
Doc was a beast when the Cards were running a 4-3 designed for his quick penetration. He wasn't and his career wained when the Cards moved to a 3-4 and turned him into a D-end. And that's the point with NK: Perhaps playing in a D that is designed to maximize results from his inside quickness will prove positive. I have to agree with this. No more two gap for him and I think putting his hand in the dirt will get him the in backfield more often. |
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Post by bigangelg on Jun 17, 2018 16:24:20 GMT -7
Doc was a beast when the Cards were running a 4-3 designed for his quick penetration. He wasn't and his career wained when the Cards moved to a 3-4 and turned him into a D-end. And that's the point with NK: Perhaps playing in a D that is designed to maximize results from his inside quickness will prove positive. Are we going towards a scheeeem (don't know how to spell it, don't care) that suits his strengths? He's one of the guys I really thought would take off on day one .. but boooooo. |
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Post by End Zone on Jun 18, 2018 2:21:23 GMT -7
RN has to decide if he wants to be a pro football player and then work hard to keep his job regardless of the Defense design (3-4, 4-3, etc). I do not blame the coaches for RN's disappointments. I blame the employee. The performance process is the same for most professional workers. At my business, salaried workers are either outstanding, or out-processing.
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Post by itancanwa on Jun 18, 2018 7:57:56 GMT -7
All I know is the one gap system fits him better than what Bettcher was running. Now does he take advantage of it ? That is the million dollar question. As someone said. I just don't see the fire in him to produce. Right now I'm leaning toward him being a bust.
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Post by End Zone on Jun 18, 2018 17:11:15 GMT -7
All I know is the one gap system fits him better than what Bettcher was running. Now does he take advantage of it ? That is the million dollar question. As someone said. I just don't see the fire in him to produce. Right now I'm leaning toward him being a bust. A bust? Could be. The solution might be a quick summer trade for a 5th (or something of equal/better value) if RN doesn't get his butt in gear for Steve Wilks. SW sent a signal already. He's watching RN at camp. Sending RN packing wouldn't surprise many folks. |
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Post by aris on Jun 24, 2018 21:43:40 GMT -7
Nkemdiche doesn't need to be double teamed to be blocked, except in training camp. Nobody was double teaming this BUM. Show me something next season or SHUT UP. |
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Post by rooseveltcardsfan on Jun 25, 2018 3:53:03 GMT -7
RN got his money.. he’s a bust! I hope I’m wrong, he has the opportunity to prove it. If he has a great year, he will get a new contract. I don’t think it will be with the cards. He hasn’t lived up to his rookie deal, and other teams have noticed. If he thinks he can be the next CC, he is dreaming. The only way he will get a big contract is after a 1 year prove it deal. IMO
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Post by In the Cards on Jun 25, 2018 15:26:47 GMT -7
RN got his money.. he’s a bust! I hope I’m wrong, he has the opportunity to prove it. If he has a great year, he will get a new contract. I don’t think it will be with the cards. He hasn’t lived up to his rookie deal, and other teams have noticed. If he thinks he can be the next CC, he is dreaming. The only way he will get a big contract is after a 1 year prove it deal. IMO What if RK has a great year this year, a great one next year, then the Cardinals exercise the 5th year option, and has another good year? 3/5 isn't bad for a rookie contract. I should note though, I sincerely doubt that will happen. All I'm saying is anything can happen over the next 3 seasons. |
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Post by CardSunsCard on Jun 26, 2018 4:24:33 GMT -7
The kid may bust, but there seem to be so many haters that ignore actual tape on the kid. We still have posters who deny the kid spent most of his college career getting double-teamed. Check out the following tape at the 45 sec mark. Note the footage from Arkansas and Auburn. Talent has never been the issue. His issue is desire and nothing else. When he wants to play, he's almost unblockable one vs. one in a 4-3 scheme. (What he played in college) He destroyed one of Alabama's best O-lines. It got so bad they sometimes triple teamed him. Yet, the kid would disappear against crappy teams at times. Questing his head is fine. Questioning his talent is delusional. Some doubters might want to read the following article: www.sbnation.com/2016/4/11/11329952/2016-nfl-draft-robert-nkemdiche-breakdown-ole-miss-defensive-linemanQuotes from the article: "That's before we even get to how strong Nkemdiche looked at times. Just about every play where a guard or tackle tried to base block him one-on-one on a running play, Nkemdiche whupped ... dat ... ass." "That doesn't mean he can't play well in other schemes, too. I just personally believe his greatest chance for success in the NFL is as an undertackle/three-technique. Sure, he could be a five-technique in a 3-4 and maybe even a nose tackle in a 4-3, but I don't think a team will get nearly as much bang for their buck in those positions as they would if they put him at undertackle." "Yes, he was inconsistent, but his flashes were so very impressive. Any defensive line coach worth his salt would be licking his chops at the prospect of being able to mold this kid into weapon." "f you've read my breakdowns on defensive linemen you know a stickler for me is effort, and his effort was sometimes lacking. Not a lot. Generally not on plays where he would have made a difference. Still, when I'm looking at a guy who is going to have to bust his ass to improve his technique, any questions about work ethic is going to raise more red flags and make me question whether he will git 'er done. Hell, I was watching the UT Martin game with the sound on and the announcers rightly called Nkemdiche out while showing a replay of his piss poor effort on a quarterback scramble. I couldn't do anything but nod my head." |
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Post by cardstj22 on Jun 27, 2018 8:14:06 GMT -7
You can't teach a motor, desire in a player. There's definitely potential for that bust factor. This was a risky first round pick to begin with. The scheme fits what he does better but he has to do more than just going through the motions, pattycaking.
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