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Post by aussiecardfan on Nov 6, 2022 17:20:10 GMT -7
If MB had said No contract talks till after the season do you think K1 would be playing better? Who cares. He couldn’t play any worse and we wouldn’t be committed to the sook.
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Post by Rimrock on Nov 6, 2022 17:21:39 GMT -7
Pete Carroll is a really good coach. So are Shanahan and McVay. Right now I'm feeling the same disappointment and disillusionment that I felt at the collapse of last season and we're only a little over halfway of this one. Yes..3 very good coaches against a loosing college coach....who could have guessed??...yall were so excited to try to clone McVay that you lost all your senses...well here it is...just 4 yrs to late to matter
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Post by Native Az on Nov 6, 2022 17:24:37 GMT -7
Ok…so let’s say you’re a free agent…why in the world would you even consider coming here??? There is NOTHING attractive about this organization…NOTHING!!! I hate to say it....but the only free agents who might want to come here are those looking for a decent paycheck at the end of their career and are all but ready to retire. Anderson will sign for sure. 😂🥺
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Post by respecttheprocess on Nov 6, 2022 17:24:58 GMT -7
Could we swing a deal with the A’s if we pick up the bulk of KM’s contract? Lol
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Post by Pendy on Nov 6, 2022 17:25:49 GMT -7
we had 158 yds on the two TD drives...104 on all other drives...
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Post by Chirpn’time on Nov 6, 2022 17:28:59 GMT -7
I hate to say it....but the only free agents who might want to come here are those looking for a decent paycheck at the end of their career and are all but ready to retire. Anderson will sign for sure. 😂🥺 There has to be a blow up or punch line to make it attractive. AZ a great place to have kids. AZ the rest place in the NFL.
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Post by respecttheprocess on Nov 6, 2022 17:39:12 GMT -7
If there is not an organizational change in the head coach and GM that makes free agents feel is going to make a HUGE difference in the development of KM…you can just forget free agents coming here…so it’s going to need to be done via the draft and trades…and that’s still going to take a new head coach and GM to start the process…at this point…I’d be willing to do what Dallas did years ago in trading Herschel Walker for a boat load of picks in stating it’s rebuild…KM and DHOP are your trade baits…I just don’t see the road to a Super Bowl with KM at the helm…unless you can convince someone like Sean Payton to come in here as coach and GM to develop him and the roster he needs in order to be successful.
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Post by jeffcardinalfan on Nov 6, 2022 17:42:55 GMT -7
I'm still completely astounded by the lack of understanding of recognition that by far the worst group on this roster is the offensive line. The problem is not Kyler Murray. So what if the starters on the offensive line are hurt they weren't that good anyway. The problem is no offense functions if there aren't running lanes open for the running backs and if quarterbacks aren't giving time to make throws.
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Post by respecttheprocess on Nov 6, 2022 17:48:44 GMT -7
I'm still completely astounded by the lack of understanding of recognition that by far the worst group on this roster is the offensive line. The problem is not Kyler Murray. So what if the starters on the offensive line are hurt they weren't that good anyway. The problem is no offense functions if there aren't running lanes open for the running backs and if quarterbacks aren't giving time to make throws. …agree with the OL observation…but I’m sorry to say…you just can’t ignore the lack of development in KM’s game…he is a one read thrower…predetermining many of his throws…granted…KK could help him with roll outs or bootlegs to hide the OL issues…but there is just not the progressions being made by an NFL Level QB…
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Post by fightingfalcon on Nov 6, 2022 17:52:14 GMT -7
Not to panic.
The Cardinals are within one game of both the Rams and 49ers, and they don't have to worry about getting spanked by the Seahawks again this year unless they meet them in the playoffs.
And. . .Arizona is still on track for an 11-6 record, just like last year, and a spot in the playoffs. They should have their best receiver, Marquise Brown, back in a week or two which should make all the difference in the world.
Of the eight games remaining on the schedule, only two are against teams with winning records. So far this year, the Cardinals are undefeated against teams who did not have a winning record when they played them.
Look at the Cardinals Defense. . . is there a better pair of linebackers in the NFL than Simmons and Collins? Budda Baker is perhaps the best safety in the NFL, and the Cardinals have a NFL defensive player of the week in Marco Wilson? And what team would not want JJ Watt on their defensive line?
We must send Kudos to KM. . . who once again led the Cardinals in BOTH passing and rushing this game and in fact, leads Arizona in both passing and rushing for the entire season. I think everyone agrees his leadership on the field is impressive!
So yes, this is not the time for panic, for the future can be very bright. About the only thing this game established is the Cardinals may not get back to State Farm in the playoffs until the Super Bowl game. . . .
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Post by melgray85 on Nov 6, 2022 18:06:00 GMT -7
Ok…so let’s say you’re a free agent…why in the world would you even consider coming here??? There is NOTHING attractive about this organization…NOTHING!!! I hate to say it....but the only free agents who might want to come here are those looking for a decent paycheck at the end of their career and are all but ready to retire. Well you gotta admit Arizona is a popular place to retire (lol!)
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Post by Rimrock on Nov 6, 2022 18:11:55 GMT -7
I'm still completely astounded by the lack of understanding of recognition that by far the worst group on this roster is the offensive line. The problem is not Kyler Murray. So what if the starters on the offensive line are hurt they weren't that good anyway. The problem is no offense functions if there aren't running lanes open for the running backs and if quarterbacks aren't giving time to make throws. Which all leads back to coaching...it all leads back to coaching and the GM...that simple
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Post by melgray85 on Nov 6, 2022 18:15:44 GMT -7
If MB had said No contract talks till after the season do you think K1 would be playing better? The no contract talks would probably be speculated by some as an excuse for Kyler's play thus far this season.
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Post by melgray85 on Nov 6, 2022 18:26:11 GMT -7
I'm still completely astounded by the lack of understanding of recognition that by far the worst group on this roster is the offensive line. The problem is not Kyler Murray. So what if the starters on the offensive line are hurt they weren't that good anyway. The problem is no offense functions if there aren't running lanes open for the running backs and if quarterbacks aren't giving time to make throws. I would agree that he's not "the" problem but he tends to contribute to it at times and in ways that he shouldn't which is why I question his decision making especially while under pressure. I'm also a little dismayed by the fact that D'hop was somewhat quiet after that sideline scene of Kyler seen barking at him about something. There continues it seems to be a maturity factor there.
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Post by thomas cat on Nov 6, 2022 18:44:35 GMT -7
I don't want to go on about how bad we are. I'll let others do that. The thing that bothers me most is not that we are losing, it's how we are losing.
Too many dumb and easy stuff to fix by players and coaches that should not happen. All teams make dumb mistakes, but we seem to excel in them. I have officially given up on KK. He has had 4 years to develop yet he has nothing to show for it. Bringing in a dedicated OC will not help. He has lost the team.
I will still follow and root for my team right down to the last play of the last game....but even I am ready for major changes....
Go Cards!!!!
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