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Post by Rimrock on Nov 3, 2021 17:09:22 GMT -7
[br Hey dry heat I know you are bound by your wife's oath to medicine ,and you to aris But how many nfl young studs have died of covid...or how many have be hospitalized? Pretty sure zero and zero but don’t ya know they might be asymptomaticly killing obese, diabetic grandmas who come to the games and somehow get in the huddle long enough to experience both the viral load and time of exposure their immune compromised systems can’t handle. I don’t wanna get myself in trouble here, but I think I’ve made clear my opinion is COVID19 is at the same time very real AND very overblown. Yup..thanks Just a last..point..us old people come to the games knowing the risks...maybe a 9r fan beats you to death or a raiders fan knives you...quit blaming everything on earth to a common cold on steroids...we all die..tic toc
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Post by Drachir on Nov 3, 2021 17:21:45 GMT -7
You do have a point there. So Rodgers should have been sitting out our game according to the rules. Maybe they should be forced to forfeit that game for not following the rules. The NFL is going to look very close at GB's procedures. If found to cheat, the penalty will be severe. Fine and a draft pick at least. You call that severe? I would say forfeiture of Game 8, complete castration to make sure he Aaron Rodgers thinks with the right head. Forfeiture of pay of all those involved. forfeiture of one game ticket sales to be paid to the Cardinals for being true and honest. Ummm let’s see what else oh yes forfeiture of all 2022 draft picks.
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Post by Drachir on Nov 3, 2021 17:23:55 GMT -7
[br Hey dry heat I know you are bound by your wife's oath to medicine ,and you to aris But how many nfl young studs have died of covid...or how many have be hospitalized? Pretty sure zero and zero but don’t ya know they might be asymptomaticly killing obese, diabetic grandmas who come to the games and somehow get in the huddle long enough to experience both the viral load and time of exposure their immune compromised systems can’t handle. I don’t wanna get myself in trouble here, but I think I’ve made clear my opinion is COVID19 is at the same time very real AND very overblown. No doubt it is real, and no doubt it is way overblown but the bright side it did single handily cured the flu. Let’s Go Brandon!
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Post by Rimrock on Nov 3, 2021 17:53:26 GMT -7
Pretty sure zero and zero but don’t ya know they might be asymptomaticly killing obese, diabetic grandmas who come to the games and somehow get in the huddle long enough to experience both the viral load and time of exposure their immune compromised systems can’t handle. I don’t wanna get myself in trouble here, but I think I’ve made clear my opinion is COVID19 is at the same time very real AND very overblown. No doubt it is real, and no doubt it is way overblown but the bright side it did single handily cured the flu. Let’s Go randon! Yup..covid has cured about 5 hundred thousand cases of the flu..yall should be ashamed of your fear factor
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Post by Dry Heat on Nov 3, 2021 18:40:25 GMT -7
Pretty sure zero and zero but don’t ya know they might be asymptomaticly killing obese, diabetic grandmas who come to the games and somehow get in the huddle long enough to experience both the viral load and time of exposure their immune compromised systems can’t handle. I don’t wanna get myself in trouble here, but I think I’ve made clear my opinion is COVID19 is at the same time very real AND very overblown. Yup..thanks Just a last..point..us old people come to the games knowing the risks...maybe a 9r fan beats you to death or a raiders fan knives you...quit blaming everything on earth to a common cold on steroids...we all die..tic toc I’m a guy who has always felt that when God wants me, He knows where I am.
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Post by carddownunder on Nov 3, 2021 18:42:29 GMT -7
You do have a point there. So Rodgers should have been sitting out our game according to the rules. Maybe they should be forced to forfeit that game for not following the rules. The NFL is going to look very close at GB's procedures. If found to cheat, the penalty will be severe. Fine and a draft pick at least. Another thing to ponder ... after the game, I remember Rodgers hanging all over Kyler and talking into his ear without a mask!!! Oh noooooooo!
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Post by knobby on Nov 3, 2021 19:42:41 GMT -7
The NFL is going to look very close at GB's procedures. If found to cheat, the penalty will be severe. Fine and a draft pick at least. Another thing to ponder ... after the game, I remember Rodgers hanging all over Kyler and talking into his ear without a mask!!! Oh noooooooo!
I noticed that too. Looked like Rodgers had really "up close and personal" contact - far more than normal or necessary.
By intent?? Not out of the question IF he wanted to torpedo the Cards and/or Murray for our upcoming games and IF he knew his Covid status at the time.
I hope the league does not let this get swept under the rug, but don't trust Roger Goodell one inch.
IMHO.
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Post by End Zone on Nov 4, 2021 4:47:29 GMT -7
Another thing to ponder ... after the game, I remember Rodgers hanging all over Kyler and talking into his ear without a mask!!! Oh noooooooo!
I noticed that too. Looked like Rodgers had really "up close and personal" contact - far more than normal or necessary.
By intent?? Not out of the question IF he wanted to torpedo the Cards and/or Murray for our upcoming games and IF he knew his Covid status at the time.
I hope the league does not let this get swept under the rug, but don't trust Roger Goodell one inch.
IMHO.
Knobby, my thoughts on this matter: (1) The NFL will not give the Packers a hall pass just because QB Rodgers is an MVP and an NFL star player on the winningest team ever. (2) The NFL will investigate the Packers for being complicit or at least dumb in how they handled Rodgers non-vaccination status and his behaviors. (3) The Rodgers and WR positive test results across two weeks, and multiple past videos showing team lackadaisical manners, are proof of a problem inside the Packers organization. (4) Rodgers also may have exposed many other people to the virus, including Cardinals offensive and defensive players at the TNF game a week ago on October 28th. (5) During a video interview on November 3rd, Packers HC LeFleur reacted to media questions in a sort of cavalier manner, stating the organization's protocol processes are good and that the team will get through this challenge. Of course, the HC takes this matter seriously and is not going to admit on the record any wrongdoing. (6) I love conspiracy theories as much as anyone, but I do not think that the Packers QB would intentionally expose the Cardinals players to COVID-19 at the TNF game in order to torpedo the NFC's best team through the regular season schedule. (7) The Packers had a COVID-19 problem with players prior to the TNF game with the Cardinals on October 28th. Six days after the game, on November 3rd, QB Rodgers tested positive for COVID-19. This virus infection trend line demonstrates the need for NFL HQ special action to assist the Packers to sanitize. (8) COVID-19’s incubation period lasts up to 14 days. Reference nortonhealthcare.com/news/how-long-after-exposure-to-test-positive-for-covid/ . Ref meets ProBoards standard. Because the Packers organization and NFL knew Rodgers was not vaccinated, and considering the that other players were exposed and tested positive prior to TNF game, why was Rodgers allowed to play at TNF? Did he prove no close contact with the exposed teammates and also test negative? Or, did the staff just defer to Rodgers about contacts and trust his feedback in addition to the negative test? We all know Rodgers the QB exploits every rule and gap to gain advantage. When did Rodgers body start to shed viruses? Before or after October 28th? When his body started shedding the COVID-19 virus, he was immediately infectious. Lastly, most people shedding COVID-19 viruses become ill. When or did Rodgers feel ill? He would know then that something is wrong if his sinus are wrecked and he is running a high temperature. If he said nothing to trainers or team MDs about a change in pulmonary condition, then that's vintage Rodgers again, exploiting the NFL system to his advantage. *** Something is definitely fishy at Green Bay. The NFL's investigation is ongoing.
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Post by jeffcardinalfan on Nov 4, 2021 5:24:33 GMT -7
First I would absolutely believe that Rogers would do anything including trying to purposely infect Kyler Murray. He remains the only NFL player that I have seen tank a game on purpose.
Second there is absolutely no way the Packers are going to get any penalty for this at all.
Third I fully believe that there are thousands of people out there right now trying to get a deal done where they can bribe or blackmail a lab tester to provide fake positive test to key players. Just imagine a Super Bowl in which hours before the game what are the starting quarterbacks was ruled out because of a positive covid test.
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Post by knobby on Nov 4, 2021 10:01:40 GMT -7
I noticed that too. Looked like Rodgers had really "up close and personal" contact - far more than normal or necessary.
By intent?? Not out of the question IF he wanted to torpedo the Cards and/or Murray for our upcoming games and IF he knew his Covid status at the time. I hope the league does not let this get swept under the rug, but don't trust Roger Goodell one inch. IMHO.
Knobby, my thoughts on this matter: (1) The NFL will not give the Packers a hall pass just because QB Rodgers is an MVP and an NFL star player on the winningest team ever.
(2) The NFL will investigate the Packers for being complicit or at least dumb in how they handled Rodgers non-vaccination status and his behaviors.
(3) The Rodgers and WR positive test results across two weeks, and multiple past videos showing team lackadaisical manners, are proof of a problem inside the Packers organization.
(4) Rodgers also may have exposed many other people to the virus, including Cardinals offensive and defensive players at the TNF game a week ago on October 28th.
(5) During a video interview on November 3rd, Packers HC LeFleur reacted to media questions in a sort of cavalier manner, stating the organization's protocol processes are good and that the team will get through this challenge. Of course, the HC takes this matter seriously and is not going to admit on the record any wrongdoing.
(6) I love conspiracy theories as much as anyone, but I do not think that the Packers QB would intentionally expose the Cardinals players to COVID-19 at the TNF game in order to torpedo the NFC's best team through the regular season schedule. (7) The Packers had a COVID-19 problem with players prior to the TNF game with the Cardinals on October 28th. Six days after the game, on November 3rd, QB Rodgers tested positive for COVID-19. This virus infection trend line demonstrates the need for NFL HQ special action to assist the Packers to sanitize.
(8) COVID-19’s incubation period lasts up to 14 days. Reference nortonhealthcare.com/news/how-long-after-exposure-to-test-positive-for-covid/ . Ref meets ProBoards standard.
Because the Packers organization and NFL knew Rodgers was not vaccinated, and considering the that other players were exposed and tested positive prior to TNF game, why was Rodgers allowed to play at TNF? Did he prove no close contact with the exposed teammates and also test negative? Or, did the staff just defer to Rodgers about contacts and trust his feedback in addition to the negative test? We all know Rodgers the QB exploits every rule and gap to gain advantage. When did Rodgers body start to shed viruses? Before or after October 28th? When his body started shedding the COVID-19 virus, he was immediately infectious. Lastly, most people shedding COVID-19 viruses become ill. When or did Rodgers feel ill? He would know then that something is wrong if his sinus are wrecked and he is running a high temperature. If he said nothing to trainers or team MDs about a change in pulmonary condition, then that's vintage Rodgers again, exploiting the NFL system to his advantage.
*** Something is definitely fishy at Green Bay. The NFL's investigation is ongoing. We'll just have to disagree on your point #6. Time may or may not tell.
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Post by End Zone on Nov 4, 2021 11:09:29 GMT -7
Knobby, my thoughts on this matter: (1) The NFL will not give the Packers a hall pass just because QB Rodgers is an MVP and an NFL star player on the winningest team ever.
(2) The NFL will investigate the Packers for being complicit or at least dumb in how they handled Rodgers non-vaccination status and his behaviors.
(3) The Rodgers and WR positive test results across two weeks, and multiple past videos showing team lackadaisical manners, are proof of a problem inside the Packers organization.
(4) Rodgers also may have exposed many other people to the virus, including Cardinals offensive and defensive players at the TNF game a week ago on October 28th.
(5) During a video interview on November 3rd, Packers HC LeFleur reacted to media questions in a sort of cavalier manner, stating the organization's protocol processes are good and that the team will get through this challenge. Of course, the HC takes this matter seriously and is not going to admit on the record any wrongdoing.
(6) I love conspiracy theories as much as anyone, but I do not think that the Packers QB would intentionally expose the Cardinals players to COVID-19 at the TNF game in order to torpedo the NFC's best team through the regular season schedule. (7) The Packers had a COVID-19 problem with players prior to the TNF game with the Cardinals on October 28th. Six days after the game, on November 3rd, QB Rodgers tested positive for COVID-19. This virus infection trend line demonstrates the need for NFL HQ special action to assist the Packers to sanitize.
(8) COVID-19’s incubation period lasts up to 14 days. Reference nortonhealthcare.com/news/how-long-after-exposure-to-test-positive-for-covid/ . Ref meets ProBoards standard.
Because the Packers organization and NFL knew Rodgers was not vaccinated, and considering the that other players were exposed and tested positive prior to TNF game, why was Rodgers allowed to play at TNF? Did he prove no close contact with the exposed teammates and also test negative? Or, did the staff just defer to Rodgers about contacts and trust his feedback in addition to the negative test? We all know Rodgers the QB exploits every rule and gap to gain advantage. When did Rodgers body start to shed viruses? Before or after October 28th? When his body started shedding the COVID-19 virus, he was immediately infectious. Lastly, most people shedding COVID-19 viruses become ill. When or did Rodgers feel ill? He would know then that something is wrong if his sinus are wrecked and he is running a high temperature. If he said nothing to trainers or team MDs about a change in pulmonary condition, then that's vintage Rodgers again, exploiting the NFL system to his advantage.
*** Something is definitely fishy at Green Bay. The NFL's investigation is ongoing. We'll just have to disagree on your point #6. Time may or may not tell. The NFL would go bonkers. GB would be tarred worse than NE. I sniffed around. The law regarding COVID-19 damages is not yet firm in most states. Generally, if a person intentionally exposes another person to disease (example COVID-19, smallpox, ebola), and that player suffers the illness in a manner, or loses wages or economic opportunity, a personal injury suit can be filed in most state courts. There are plenty lawyers that would take a plantiff's personal injury case vs a multi-million dollar NFL QB in a heart-beat. If the plantiff dies, the heirs line up fast for a possible payday.
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Post by In the Cards on Nov 4, 2021 11:40:10 GMT -7
Because the Packers organization and NFL knew Rodgers was not vaccinated, and considering the that other players were exposed and tested positive prior to TNF game, why was Rodgers allowed to play at TNF? Did he prove no close contact with the exposed teammates and also test negative? Or, did the staff just defer to Rodgers about contacts and trust his feedback in addition to the negative test? This is the kicker on all this. Right now the media is talking about how Rodgers mislead the media by saying "immunized" instead of "vaccinated" when they mean the same exact thing. PFT is simply calling AR12 a liar for stating that. The media does not like being deceived because it makes them look , that is why they've turned on him. But the real story is what you've mentioned here. The Packers are either or covering up. As the saying goes, don't attribute to malus what can be explained by ignorance. I hope an NFL investigation does happen, but I seriously doubt any conclusion will be made until after the season.
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Post by ricardo on Nov 4, 2021 11:48:13 GMT -7
Because the Packers organization and NFL knew Rodgers was not vaccinated, and considering the that other players were exposed and tested positive prior to TNF game, why was Rodgers allowed to play at TNF? Did he prove no close contact with the exposed teammates and also test negative? Or, did the staff just defer to Rodgers about contacts and trust his feedback in addition to the negative test? This is the kicker on all this. Right now the media is talking about how Rodgers mislead the media by saying "immunized" instead of "vaccinated" when they mean the same exact thing. PFT is simply calling AR12 a liar for stating that. The media does not like being deceived because it makes them look , that is why they've turned on him.But the real story is what you've mentioned here. The Packers are either or covering up. As the saying goes, don't attribute to malus what can be explained by ignorance. I hope an NFL investigation does happen, but I seriously doubt any conclusion will be made until after the season. But yet they have no problem doing that to their viewers...JMO
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Post by Dry Heat on Nov 4, 2021 12:11:50 GMT -7
Because the Packers organization and NFL knew Rodgers was not vaccinated, and considering the that other players were exposed and tested positive prior to TNF game, why was Rodgers allowed to play at TNF? Did he prove no close contact with the exposed teammates and also test negative? Or, did the staff just defer to Rodgers about contacts and trust his feedback in addition to the negative test? This is the kicker on all this. Right now the media is talking about how Rodgers mislead the media by saying "immunized" instead of "vaccinated" when they mean the same exact thing. PFT is simply calling AR12 a liar for stating that. The media does not like being deceived because it makes them look , that is why they've turned on him. But the real story is what you've mentioned here. The Packers are either or covering up. As the saying goes, don't attribute to malus what can be explained by ignorance. I hope an NFL investigation does happen, but I seriously doubt any conclusion will be made until after the season. Green Bay 1) Knew WR Adam’s and their DC had tested positive. They were put on COVID protocol. 2) Knew WR Allen Lazard and QB Rodgers we’re unvaccinated. 3) Chose to put Lazard on protocol required for unvaxxed players who had contact with positive staff or players. 4) Chose not to put Rodgers on the same protocol. Does anyone here really think Rodgers had not had contact with his #1 WR?
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Post by jeffcardinalfan on Nov 4, 2021 14:40:04 GMT -7
This will be handled quite differently by the NFL if the Packers opponent on that Thursday night game had been the Dallas Cowboys. That would have caused the media shitstorm that I would have enjoyed
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