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Post by cardinalsdo on Oct 15, 2018 8:37:57 GMT -7
Too much attention is given to McCoy as if firing him will fix all of our problems. Let's come back down to reality (especially the Kool Aid drinkers), our defense is horrible. We were ranked last against the run but are now 2nd to last against the run. After facing Denver this week, we will likely reclaim that notorious stat of having the worst run defense in the NFL. Total defense is 24th.
Wilks was hired for his defense. For all of his tough talk, his defense stinks. His zone scheme is being exploited. If any RB hits the next level, they are gone due to those large gaps in the zone. The tackling is horrible.
Let's not pretend this is all on McCoy. Firing McCoy doesn't correct the horrible zone scheme and poor tackling among other issues on defense. Wilks needs to go as much as McCoy at the end of the season. McCoy has to go but I'm not naive enough to believe that firing him is the easy fix that some of you believe. The defense is nearly as bad, it's just not as bad as the offense.
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Post by clutchdj on Oct 15, 2018 8:48:42 GMT -7
We’re the Broncos.
Wilks is Vance Joseph.
Broncos fired McCoy(rightfully so) only to see Wilks isn’t qualified as a HC. Just like Vance Joseph.
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Post by Zaz on Oct 15, 2018 9:04:11 GMT -7
The defensive scheme is terrible, however I think the notion "players need to make plays" is even moreso important than the offensive failings.
A missed tackle is not a scheme issue. Its a bum ass player issue, and we seem to have alot of them.
Also Corey Peters civility seemed to crack a little in the past game interview. He said "After you watch the film, its easy to see whos making the mistakes". He knows whos at fault, but he doesnt want to say.
Heres the answer:
Nkemdiche
Gunter
Mayowa
Bynes
Reddick
These 5 guys, primarily on the left side of the box, are at fault. Each of them is worse than the next at stopping the run.
When the ball goes to the right side, Chandler and Peters do a pretty good (not great) job of stopping the run.
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Post by ~MainEvent~ on Oct 15, 2018 9:14:37 GMT -7
They're on the field every other play, what do you expect?
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Post by cardinalsdo on Oct 15, 2018 9:18:39 GMT -7
The defensive scheme is terrible, however I think the notion "players need to make plays" is even moreso important than the offensive failings. A missed tackle is not a scheme issue. Its a bum ass player issue, and we seem to have alot of them. Also Corey Peters civility seemed to crack a little in the past game interview. He said "After you watch the film, its easy to see whos making the mistakes". He knows whos at fault, but he doesnt want to say. Heres the answer: Nkemdiche Gunter Mayowa Bynes Reddick These 5 guys, primarily on the left side of the box, are at fault. Each of them is worse than the next at stopping the run. When the ball goes to the right side, Chandler and Peters do a pretty good (not great) job of stopping the run. Agreed, it's not just one issue. It's the scheme and execution. However, coaching has a lot to do with effort and fundamentals so I hold Wilks responsible for some of these basic fundamentals that are lacking. You can't really fault coaches for the lack of talent. If a cornerback is not fast and is getting burned, there is not much a coach can do about that. That falls on the GM. But missed tackles and poor tackling is absolutely a coaching issue. That has more to do with discipline than talent. |
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Post by AzTank on Oct 15, 2018 9:19:47 GMT -7
They're on the field every other play, what do you expect? That's because they can't get off the field on third down. If they weren't getting turn-overs, I think they would give up 40 every game. They are atrocious. |
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Post by cardinalsdo on Oct 15, 2018 9:22:37 GMT -7
They're on the field every other play, what do you expect? So what is their excuse when they are giving up big runs and failing to tackle at the start of the game? Where they on the field all day at the start of the game too? Go back and watch the Redskins game. Missed tackle after missed tackle in the first quarter. Poor discipline and missed assignments. Sure, the defense is going to be tired if they are on the field all day. No one is denying that but being tired isn't the reason the defense isn't executing. The scheme is bad and the coaching is worse. The scheme doesn't take advantage of the talent on the team. Asking the secondary to play zone when they've been playing man for years was a terrible idea. Failing to use the speed of our outside linebackers in the 3-4 and coverting to a 4-3 was awful. |
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Post by ~MainEvent~ on Oct 15, 2018 9:23:33 GMT -7
They're on the field every other play, what do you expect? That's because they can't get off the field on third down. If they weren't getting turn-overs, I think they would give up 40 every game. They are atrocious. The Vikings went 3/10 from 3rd down and started off 0-6. Take a guess why they started converting as the game progressed? |
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Post by AzTank on Oct 15, 2018 9:25:43 GMT -7
That's because they can't get off the field on third down. If they weren't getting turn-overs, I think they would give up 40 every game. They are atrocious. The Vikings went 3/10 from 3rd down and started off 0-6. Take a guess why they started converting as the game progressed? Because they started running the ball. I was shocked that the Vikes began the game throwing so much. Once they came out of their coma and started running the ball, the game was over. |
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Post by jeffcardinalfan on Oct 15, 2018 9:27:03 GMT -7
so my question is: if cards had top 5 defense or close last few seasons why HIRE hc who would change defense into completely different scheme? hiring hc who would do this was just . this is not a personal attack on wilks but he sure does look overwhelmed. imagine if packers get new hc next year and he decides to remake packers into power running team in spite of having aaron Rodgers-the green bay fans would dismember him.
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Post by cardinalsdo on Oct 15, 2018 9:29:13 GMT -7
That's because they can't get off the field on third down. If they weren't getting turn-overs, I think they would give up 40 every game. They are atrocious. The Vikings went 3/10 from 3rd down and started off 0-6. Take a guess why they started converting as the game progressed? I don't need to guess, the answer is obvious to any intelligent fan. The Vikings began to run it down our throats because of the horrible zone scheme which gave up huge holes in the run game combined with the poor tackling. The Vikings merely took the path of least resistance and recognized our run defense is arguably the worst in the league. |
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Post by ~MainEvent~ on Oct 15, 2018 9:33:59 GMT -7
They're on the field every other play, what do you expect? So what is their excuse when they are giving up big runs and failing to tackle at the start of the game? Where they on the field all day at the start of the game too? Go back and watch the Redskins game. Missed tackle after missed tackle in the first quarter. Poor discipline and missed assignments. Sure, the defense is going to be tired if they are on the field all day. No one is denying that but being tired isn't the reason the defense isn't executing. The scheme is bad and the coaching is worse. The scheme doesn't take advantage of the talent on the team. Asking the secondary to play zone when they've been playing man for years was a terrible idea. We didn't give up any points in the 1st quarter of the Redskins game, guess what did do? Go 7 plays and punt. The Vikings went 3 and out there 1st possession, we punted previously after 3 plays. The D has been on the field the 2nd most snaps of any team in the NFL trailing only the Browns....the Browns have played in 2 overtime games. The D isn't good, the offense is historically bad, what are we even discussing here? You realize the D was responsible for 10 of the 17 we even had yesterday right? We don't have a good 2nd corner, man isn't saving that either |
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Post by ~MainEvent~ on Oct 15, 2018 9:39:22 GMT -7
The Vikings went 3/10 from 3rd down and started off 0-6. Take a guess why they started converting as the game progressed? I don't need to guess, the answer is obvious to any intelligent fan. The Vikings began to run it down our throats because of the horrible zone scheme which gave up huge holes in the run game combined with the poor tackling. The Vikings merely took the path of least resistance and recognized our run defense is arguably the worst in the league. They began the game with a 3 and out. This "ran it down our throats" was 1 drive, they had 1 drive over 7 plays the first half. I get you like to troll and your end game is obviously GM related but this is a reach from even your standards. They did nothing until the 2nd half, when ya know, offensive 3 and outs take a toll. |
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Post by cardinalsdo on Oct 15, 2018 9:42:50 GMT -7
So what is their excuse when they are giving up big runs and failing to tackle at the start of the game? Where they on the field all day at the start of the game too? Go back and watch the Redskins game. Missed tackle after missed tackle in the first quarter. Poor discipline and missed assignments. Sure, the defense is going to be tired if they are on the field all day. No one is denying that but being tired isn't the reason the defense isn't executing. The scheme is bad and the coaching is worse. The scheme doesn't take advantage of the talent on the team. Asking the secondary to play zone when they've been playing man for years was a terrible idea. We didn't give up any points in the 1st quarter of the Redskins game, guess what did do? Go 7 plays and punt. The Vikings went 3 and out there 1st possession, we punted previously after 3 plays. The D has been on the field the 2nd most snaps of any team in the NFL trailing only the Browns....the Browns have played in 2 overtime games. The D isn't good, the offense is historically bad, what are we even discussing here? You realize the D was responsible for 10 of the 17 we even had yesterday right? We don't have a good 2nd corner, man isn't saving that either Latavius Murray rushed for 155 yards. Murray had runs for 21, 26, 28 and 34 yards. Minnesota was ranked 31st in rushing yards per game. Sorry, that's not a good defense that was just tired. You have to be pretty awful to give up a total of 195 yards to the worst rushing offense in the NFL. Blaming the offense for the defense's struggles is just more excuse making for Wilks. |
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Post by ~MainEvent~ on Oct 15, 2018 9:43:31 GMT -7
The offense is ranked last in total offense, 31st in passing, last in rushing, and 31st in points.....Guys why aren't we talking about the 24th ranked defense though?
The sad thing is the D top 15 in points allowed despite being on the field more than any team not named Cleveland
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