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Post by JustTwoBeers on Oct 11, 2018 12:40:30 GMT -7
David Johnson is wasting away on this rebuilding squad. Trade him while he still has value to a contender. We can get a solid offer from the eagles if we put his price just under the Steelers' Bell offer.
Our goal should be to shed salary and gain picks for the next 2 years.
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Post by Zaz on Oct 11, 2018 12:42:20 GMT -7
nah
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Post by Rimrock on Oct 11, 2018 13:17:28 GMT -7
Next!
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Post by ~MainEvent~ on Oct 11, 2018 13:24:23 GMT -7
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Post by 1988card on Oct 11, 2018 13:36:57 GMT -7
David Johnson is wasting away on this rebuilding squad. Trade him while he still has value to a contender. We can get a solid offer from the eagles if we put his price just under the Steelers' Bell offer. Our goal should be to shed salary and gain picks for the next 2 years. Wrong. You can "rebuild" in the NFL in one offseason, especially if you have a franchise QB, and a very good young LT, an elite pass rusher and an elite corner. This isn't the NBA or MLB where it takes a 5-10 years to rebuild. We have a ton of cap space this offseason and will likely have good draft options. The idea that this team can't be significantly improved by next year is not accurate. |
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Post by rooseveltcardsfan on Oct 11, 2018 13:49:04 GMT -7
I’ve been away. I see 2 threads re: trading DJ.
You must be nuts! And I don’t think the eagles would be interested. With his new contract, he isn’t that appealing to other teams. Kinda like buying a new car then trying to trade it in or sell it. IMHO
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Post by Cardinals Junkie on Oct 11, 2018 13:51:49 GMT -7
No friggin way. What could you possibly expect in return that would be worth it?
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Post by JustTwoBeers on Oct 11, 2018 13:58:13 GMT -7
Whisenhunt, Rod Graves, Russ Grimm and Co had 3 years of rebuild (2010, 2011, and 2012) that failed because they tried to stay competitive instead of trading quality pieces.
Even Keim and Arians, despite inheriting and shaping a more competitive team, needed two years to make a serious playoff contender.
Their attempt to reload and retool a contending 2015 roster failed and now we are in 2018 with a team starting a fresh rebuild. If we beat any of the other lowly teams competing for the top draft picks because we have stars that won't be in their prime in 2 or 3 years, I say we sell high while we still can. In two or three years, David Johnson is gonna be 28 or 29... most running backs fall off a cliff at 28.
I get keeping Larry to give the fans some nostalgia to survive the season but why don't we make some deals with contenders desperate for their missing pieces? David Johnson should be on the table. Patrick Peterson (age 28) also should be on the table...remember how far Revis fell at age 31?
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Post by rooseveltcardsfan on Oct 11, 2018 14:38:47 GMT -7
I understand the concept. Just disagree with the conclusion. As far as the ages of DJ and PP, You wouldn’t get more than a 3 for either.
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Post by Redbirdfan62 on Oct 11, 2018 16:57:15 GMT -7
Some guy's defy that age barrier and David Johnson is in pretty good shape not to mention you won't get enough. CB's they last longer not quite the beating rb's take so no on both.
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Trade DJ
Oct 11, 2018 17:03:42 GMT -7
via mobile
Post by bigangelg on Oct 11, 2018 17:03:42 GMT -7
Nay
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2018 17:34:25 GMT -7
You have a franchise QB in Rosen and a franchise RB in DJ. Everyone is having problems this year, it isnt specific to DJ. I would hope they keep him.
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Post by ~MainEvent~ on Oct 11, 2018 18:46:44 GMT -7
Whisenhunt, Rod Graves, Russ Grimm and Co had 3 years of rebuild (2010, 2011, and 2012) that failed because they tried to stay competitive instead of trading quality pieces. Even Keim and Arians, despite inheriting and shaping a more competitive team, needed two years to make a serious playoff contender. Their attempt to reload and retool a contending 2015 roster failed and now we are in 2018 with a team starting a fresh rebuild. If we beat any of the other lowly teams competing for the top draft picks because we have stars that won't be in their prime in 2 or 3 years, I say we sell high while we still can. In two or three years, David Johnson is gonna be 28 or 29... most running backs fall off a cliff at 28. I get keeping Larry to give the fans some nostalgia to survive the season but why don't we make some deals with contenders desperate for their missing pieces? David Johnson should be on the table. Patrick Peterson (age 28) also should be on the table...remember how far Revis fell at age 31? Those teams couldn't rebuild because they didn't have a QB, that's not an issue right now. The only reason we didn't make the playoffs in year one of Keim/Arians was because our division had the 2 NFC title game participants in it. It's a division champion in the NFC North that year. Trading your best offensive player when you have 2 and a half good offensive players isn't how you rebuild. Not to mention that big elephant in the room of you guys don't even trust the guy making the picks, so what does giving him more picks do exactly? You're just creating more holes |
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Trade DJ
Oct 11, 2018 19:22:18 GMT -7
via mobile
Post by bigangelg on Oct 11, 2018 19:22:18 GMT -7
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2018 20:25:22 GMT -7
Agree with everything you stated but the last sentence. And that's because neither you or I have any idea what conversations have been taking place in the building behind closed doors. Otherwise I concur and even posted another link to another article detailing with the misuse of the Card's RB room in this "scheme" that mirrors yours. We are on the same page on this matter of Offensive scheme cupability and misuse of team talent by it's OC. And to the OP, No, dumb idea. |
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