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Post by End Zone on Sept 17, 2018 2:34:39 GMT -7
Judging from the first two games' statistics, I think that it's impossible to fault Wilks alone for the 0-2 debacle. Wilks is responsible for overall game management, the coaching staff, and team preparations. OC, DC and ST coaches are responsible for play-calling. Keim is responsible for the active and practice rosters. The players are responsible for executing plays and winning the games.
One question that is nagging at me, what does Mike Bidwill think about Steve Keim now? Steve put this team on the field and hired the HC. Steve took time off to serve a Court-directed rehab stint during a critical phase of TC and PS....however, his booze problem goes back a long, long time...so, it is fair to ask questions about all GM judgments.
This team is awful in every aspect of performance. Team captains are not leading. Top coaches are not fired up and appear overly composed. Who's motivated? Some players are hunkered down, waiting for someone to make some magic. I liked Tom Brady's speech on the sideline yesterday, "DO YOUR JOBS." Who among the Cardinals players is yelling? No one so far.
Wilks became the sixth coach since the NFL-AFL merger to lose his first two games by 18 points or more, per Elias Sports. Wilks is in unique head coach company for now. I have no idea about the other five coaches.
Bottom line: As Wilks said, there is no one fix. Keim has some work to do too. And as fans, we're in for a tough, long losing season. And it's okay to gripe loudly and then walk away for awhile.
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Post by bigredgang on Sept 17, 2018 2:41:53 GMT -7
There is no possible fix right now, the season is completely lost.
To me, obviously it'll never happen, but I've seen enough of the coaching staff to fire them. At least Wilks and McCoy.
A professional football team should never be held to only cross midfield once in an entire game. I don't give a damn who the players are, that should never ever ever happen. And I doubt any other football team has ever been THAT bad. That right there is enough for me to know that these coaches don't belong.
It's just a disgrace. They talked all week about their terrible week 1 performance, came out in week 2 and did even worse.
Simply unacceptable, I won't be spending a dime on the team until Wilks is gone or he shows he actually has a single clue about running a team. We certainly need some better players but that will come with the draft and free agency, etc. I'm not as worried about that right now. I'm terrified that this coaching staff is going to get another chance in 2019 and completely waste a 2nd season.
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Post by NorthernSoul on Sept 17, 2018 2:51:38 GMT -7
It's horrible.
I had much lower expectations than most. I had 2 wins, and one was against the redskins. So will be hoping the Cards don't have a winless season.
I really feel for the people who've forked out hundreds, or thousands of dollars on season tickets.
I kinda hope they stick with Wilks. He took over trash left at the end of the failed Arians era. Arians saw what a mess the roster had become, and did the honorable thing. BUT I can also see the GM going, and the new GM wanting his guy coaching.
My main worry is Rosen. I'd not want a David Carr type situation, so hopefully they stick with Bad Badford as long as possible.
The only hope I have for the season, is we could be in a battle with the Seahawks(and Bills) for the first pick in the draft.
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Post by Redbirdfan62 on Sept 17, 2018 5:43:05 GMT -7
It's horrible. I had much lower expectations than most. I had 2 wins, and one was against the redskins. So will be hoping the Cards don't have a winless season. I really feel for the people who've forked out hundreds, or thousands of dollars on season tickets. I kinda hope they stick with Wilks. He took over trash left at the end of the failed Arians era. Arians saw what a mess the roster had become, and did the honorable thing. BUT I can also see the GM going, and the new GM wanting his guy coaching. My main worry is Rosen. I'd not want a David Carr type situation, so hopefully they stick with Bad Badford as long as possible. The only hope I have for the season, is we could be in a battle with the Seahawks(and Bills) for the first pick in the draft. What I would like to see happen is they don't change a thing and get the best draft pick they can in the next draft. Both of the biggest problems appears to be the Qb and McCoy. Not sure I can totally put it on McCoy because I am not sure it's McCoy's playcalling or Bradford that is deciding to only attempt 3.3 yd per attempt. They are killing any chance at using david johnson. This scheme is keeping guys up in the box if you don't stretch the defense this is the kind of offense you will continue to see. Both sides of the ball is just horrible and when it's happening on your watch I think MB has no choice but to clean house I don't want this staff managing our future Qb. BA and his staff did a good job not sure what you are talking about or at the very worst knew he had to stretch the D.I really hope MB at seasons end cleans house and brings in some young minds to run the show that actually are showing something out there. How bout the OC in Minnesota everyone passed on now it's gonna be hard to land him. SK wasn't the only one that decided on this coach not sure I am ready to cut him loose but I definitely have seen enough that this coaching staff and Bradford have to go |
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Post by vwvectors on Sept 17, 2018 6:21:32 GMT -7
I would not fire Wilks after one season because it hurts bringing in future quality coaching candidates besides only the browns do that.
The 4-3 is not working with our current players & the play calling on the offensive side of the ball reminds me of Whiz in preseason.
Our roster lacks talent & considering Keim has whiffed on 3 yrs of 1st rnd picks it’s no wonder. Keim is good at drafting later rnds but we would have been better off trading our 1st rounders for known talent.
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Post by Boomer on Sept 17, 2018 6:23:05 GMT -7
You can't put the defense on the field to play in essence six quarters in a game and expect to win. The offense should be a priority as they are HORRIFICALLY BAD. Our passing attack is pathetic and the root of the problem. Pass protection is there but the receivers are not settling down in the soft spots of the zone defense and Bradford isn't throwing anyone open or even pressing the issue by throwing into coverage and letting receivers go after the ball. That's coaching and players not seeing what needs to be done to move the offense. What was puzzling to me was after watching Jared Cook gash the middle of the Ram's defense for 180 yards I never saw RSJ even attempt a crossing or seam route.
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Post by biggs on Sept 17, 2018 6:43:25 GMT -7
I believe SK had a lot to do with McCoy. He had everything to do with Bradford and he drafted our WR corp,with the exception of LF. The very first thing that needs to be done is to cut Bradford today. If they aren't ready to move on from a huge offseason mistake, they aren't ready to move forward.
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Post by rdo3 on Sept 17, 2018 6:54:46 GMT -7
red it is defiantly coaching. look up my posts from when it was announced david Johnson was holding out for a new contract. I predicted exactly what was going to happen. my impessions of Bradford were pretty good, last time I kept up with him he was winning with the rams. but the coaching staff, and not just McCoy, we preaching the dink and dunk offense. you haven't seen a single player or coach call out Bradford, he's doing exactly what he's being asked to do. this is more wilks than McCoy, the dink and dunk is wilks gameplan. and just like buddy ryan he's going to win as many or more games preseason than regular with it. I was against giving dj a new contract because there was no way he was gonna come close to earning the money. crossing 50 yard line is a big deal to you? dj has not crossed 50 yards rushing in a game yet as highly paid as he is. I agree he cant, and that perhaps he is trying his hardest but don't pay people to do something they cant. its a waste of cap space. he's gonna have 3rd string totals at the end of the year, I don't expect him to be in the top 60 running backs. you pay him 3rd string money for 3rd string results or you trade him and get something to help the team not hurt it. if a lineman becomes avalible that could help the team we now have 10 mill less to bid on him. fitz contract cost us boldin , breaston, and peyton manning. we have to stop wasting cap space. that always bites us later.
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Post by One_Heartbeat on Sept 17, 2018 8:19:57 GMT -7
Judging from the first two games' statistics, I think that it's impossible to fault Wilks alone for the 0-2 debacle. Wilks is responsible for overall game management, the coaching staff, and team preparations. OC, DC and ST coaches are responsible for play-calling. Keim is responsible for the active and practice rosters. The players are responsible for executing plays and winning the games. One question that is nagging at me, what does Mike Bidwill think about Steve Keim now? Steve put this team on the field and hired the HC. Steve took time off to serve a Court-directed rehab stint during a critical phase of TC and PS....however, his booze problem goes back a long, long time...so, it is fair to ask questions about all GM judgments. This team is awful in every aspect of performance. Team captains are not leading. Top coaches are not fired up and appear overly composed. Who's motivated? Some players are hunkered down, waiting for someone to make some magic. I liked Tom Brady's speech on the sideline yesterday, "DO YOUR JOBS." Who among the Cardinals players is yelling? No one so far. Wilks became the sixth coach since the NFL-AFL merger to lose his first two games by 18 points or more, per Elias Sports. Wilks is in unique head coach company for now. I have no idea about the other five coaches. Bottom line: As Wilks said, there is no one fix. Keim has some work to do too. And as fans, we're in for a tough, long losing season. And it's okay to gripe loudly and then walk away for awhile. My gut tells me Bidwill viewed Keim as a guy in his tight inner circle, someone to be trusted with the family secrets. I think one of the Bidwill family faults is putting too much on loyalty (ahem, Rod Graves, ahem), but I digress. But then Extreme DUI Summer happened. And now NFL laughingstock happened. So I think Mike is probably getting much more direct with Keim about what's at stake and sending all the signals that it's all down to the numbers now. Make sure the wife knows not to make any long-term commitments on housing, schools, etc. because Daddy might be working somewhere else next year.
As for Wilks I agree that he can't be faulted for everything. Two words: Jamar Taylor. Yep he's my whipping boy right now but he's an example of Keim's failure. Anybody correct me if I'm wrong (I don't Google while I type, sorry) but I think Keim TRADED for this tool. He's garbage. But with Wilks I am concerned that he is the Singletary, the Spagnuolo, the Linehan, the Mornhinweig. Highly-skilled coordinator, etc. who just doesn't have it in the big chair. Peter Principle to the extreme. Nothing to change that for now, I'd feel horrible for him if he's the real deal but has been put in an impossible situation. I guess for now I'll go back to Joe Gibbs in 1981, starts 0-5, finishes 8-8 and wins the Super Bowl in 1982. Is that too far in the way back machine?
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Post by Cardinals Junkie on Sept 17, 2018 8:33:24 GMT -7
SO do you guys think we'll break our sellout streak in the stadium this year?
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Post by beaverhuntr on Sept 17, 2018 8:42:21 GMT -7
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Post by One_Heartbeat on Sept 17, 2018 9:58:05 GMT -7
SO do you guys think we'll break our sellout streak in the stadium this year? I always get a chuckle when I hear about the "sellout streak". It ended years ago, to the extent it ever existed in the first place. I remember the dead Sundays at the former UP in 2012, some sections almost empty, only to have the PA guy announce YET ANOTHER SELLOUT!
My theory back then was that the game was a "sellout" in that a day or two before game time the Cardinals "sell" the remaining tickets for nothing to the Boys and Girls Club (or another), creating a "sellout", yet by golly the Cardinals will hold onto some of the tickets for walk up traffic and exchange the tickets for cash that is then forwarded to the "owner" of the tickets or the "owner" pays a 0-100% commission to the Cardinals for selling "their" tickets. At some point the charity "owner" of the tickets showers the tickets on kids or whatever to attend the game, assuming they can get them off the couch and out of the potato chip bag long enough (cheap shot at spoiled, lazy kids who play video games and get fat).
Anyway, bottom line is the sellout streak is a fantasy and always has been. If it's blackouts you're worried about I think the NFL has loosened the rules a lot there so I don't think home games on local TV are going away anytime soon. That was one of the things that furthered the Cardinals' local misery, fans can't watch the SDS home games where they were occasionally competitive, only the trips to other locales where the Cardinals pull 44-6 stinkers.
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Post by One_Heartbeat on Sept 17, 2018 9:59:57 GMT -7
I've never seriously considered doing the bag over the face thing but at my age and giving less and less of a crap what people think of me on a daily basis, maybe I'll give it a go. I have no creative skill to speak of in such matters, so my inspiration will have to come from my fellow suffering fans. |
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Post by Redbirdfan62 on Sept 17, 2018 13:02:29 GMT -7
I would not fire Wilks after one season because it hurts bringing in future quality coaching candidates besides only the browns do that. The 4-3 is not working with our current players & the play calling on the offensive side of the ball reminds me of Whiz in preseason. Our roster lacks talent & considering Keim has whiffed on 3 yrs of 1st rnd picks it’s no wonder. Keim is good at drafting later rnds but we would have been better off trading our 1st rounders for known talent. Well ok good point doodbye SK to. |
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Post by Redbirdfan62 on Sept 17, 2018 13:08:22 GMT -7
Well I was feeling like crap today ,can I say that ? of course I can I am a MOd oh the benefits. Dang almost lost my thought Well I was feeling like crap today and then this picture put a smile on my face. |
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