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Post by One_Heartbeat on Aug 31, 2018 13:06:04 GMT -7
Campbell gone.. You spend an entire year...millions of dollars and hundreds of scouting hours determining who the absolute best 7 draft choices are.....and 1 of the guys you determined to be draftable doesnt even make the team. I cannot believe this has happened again. (Yes I can. With drunky at the wheel, anythings possible) I would fire EVERYBODY. If you spend a year making a decision, and that decision is a mega failure, then your decision making skills are crap. Better than throwing good money after bad so to speak and keeping him around when he can't hack it. If GM Hic Hic hits on a couple of FAs who can play it's a wash.
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Post by belac44 on Aug 31, 2018 13:43:04 GMT -7
I’m less upset about a 6th rounder being cut (they shouldn’t make good teams) and more upset we gave up a veteran back up at Left or Right tackle for nothing now. Did we even do anything with Veldheer’s money? I guess its a positive we didnt have to eat that on the cap. I have no clue how he is doing with packers, but I was intrigued with Equanimeous St Brown at that pick. There were a few WR’s there that were intriguing. Hopefully he makes practice squad and can develop. Veldheer is the starting RT for the Broncos. Not bad for a 6th round pick. Ugh...
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Post by ecnelis on Aug 31, 2018 14:10:00 GMT -7
I envision Campbell being on ST. 6th and 7th round picks are lottery tickets. Some work out, some dont. At best a 6th rounder is usually a ST contributor. Meh... If he's on our PS, I'm fine with that.
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Post by Zaz on Aug 31, 2018 17:35:03 GMT -7
Campbell gone.. You spend an entire year...millions of dollars and hundreds of scouting hours determining who the absolute best 7 draft choices are.....and 1 of the guys you determined to be draftable doesnt even make the team. I cannot believe this has happened again. (Yes I can. With drunky at the wheel, anythings possible) I would fire EVERYBODY. If you spend a year making a decision, and that decision is a mega failure, then your decision making skills are crap. Better than throwing good money after bad so to speak and keeping him around when he can't hack it. If GM Hic Hic hits on a couple of FAs who can play it's a wash. Im going in circles with this. Either im failing to adequately explain. Or everybody else is failing to understand the concept. This has nothing to do with football. Or sports. This is a very general principle that points to extreme incompetence. You spend an immense about of resources and coming to a decision (regarding any topic) And ultimately that decision is proven wrong 5 minutes after you make it. Logically, that means your entire decision making process what extremely flawed. Thats my point.
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Post by Zaz on Aug 31, 2018 17:38:44 GMT -7
Just thought of a funny example:
You date a woman for 4 years. Is she the one? You ask yourself every day. You finally decide YES! Shes the one! You propose, get married. She cheats on you 2 years later. Sad. But it happens.
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You date a woman for 4 years. Is she the one? You ask yourself every day. You finally decide YES! Shes the one! You propose, get married. She cheats on you during the honeymoon.
See the difference? It a player busts after a year or 2. Fine. It happens. But if he busts during the honeymoon, then you sir do NOT know how to pick em.
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Post by bigredgang on Aug 31, 2018 17:57:58 GMT -7
Wouldnt be surprised if we see Reddick as a 2019 cut next season Man out there playing with 4th stringers, looking average.You can see his head is absolutely spinning out there. He has no idea what to do. Ill say it again: theres no such thing as projects in the NFL. You cant learn how to do something at its highest level. If you need a LB, draft a LB. If you need a CB, draft a CB. etc. Reddick was a DE in college. We should try him at DE. He's way too small for DE, wouldn't work. Looks like we will probably be playing a lot of nickel packages so he's pretty much a depth guy. Oh well. Not upset about the cuts so far. Glennon is the best 3rd string QB on the roster and deserves that spot. Scooby Wright looked slow and we should have better options there (Turner and Robinson looked pretty decent). I'd like to find a #4 CB on the waiver wire hopefully because Williams shouldn't be higher than 5th on the depth chart.
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Post by knobby on Aug 31, 2018 19:31:13 GMT -7
Better than throwing good money after bad so to speak and keeping him around when he can't hack it. If GM Hic Hic hits on a couple of FAs who can play it's a wash. Im going in circles with this. Either im failing to adequately explain. Or everybody else is failing to understand the concept.
This has nothing to do with football. Or sports. This is a very general principle that points to extreme incompetence.
You spend an immense about of resources and coming to a decision (regarding any topic) And ultimately that decision is proven wrong 5 minutes after you make it. Logically, that means your entire decision making process what extremely flawed.
Thats my point. Your point is valid. I got it before but didn't comment even though I agree that the scouting and draft ranking process has some weaknesses. I may have even posted to that effect - can't recall for sure. Drafting is never a sure thing of course, but deficiencies should not be ignored.I don't know whether it is the fault of scouting ability or the group who make up the draft board, or someone overruling when they should not. I think the problem begins at the top and should be examined from there down, preferably by someone not connected to the organization. But, I do not expect anything to change because there is (too much?) personal interest and 'loyalty' involved. If Mike B also felt there was a problem, then something might happen - IMO.
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Post by Rimrock on Aug 31, 2018 19:38:57 GMT -7
Wouldnt be surprised if we see Reddick as a 2019 cut next season Man out there playing with 4th stringers, looking average.You can see his head is absolutely spinning out there. He has no idea what to do. Ill say it again: theres no such thing as projects in the NFL. You cant learn how to do something at its highest level. If you need a LB, draft a LB. If you need a CB, draft a CB. etc. Reddick was a DE in college. We should try him at DE. Zaz you are soooo full of "it". why is he full of it?...dude is looking pretty weak and lost
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Post by Zaz on Aug 31, 2018 20:47:40 GMT -7
Zaz you are soooo full of "it". why is he full of it?...dude is looking pretty weak and lost im trying to look for ways to save my man. You cant watch Reddick in the pre season at linebacker playing with 4th stringers, looking completely lost, and think he's somehow going to be Dwash someday. yeah he is small for a DE but dang at least his brain wont be exploding like it is now
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2018 6:05:38 GMT -7
Zaz you are soooo full of "it". why is he full of it?...dude is looking pretty weak and lost He is getting the reps this PS games for his new position ( His 3rd New position in 2 seasons of playing since drafted). HC Wilks and DC Holcomb know what they have in him and are prepping him with as many reps as possible. You can bag on him for being on the field with the "4th stringers" all you want! But it's the Coach's plan to get him reps. And I sure as heck do Not want him to be a DW clone either! Sure DW's athleticism and play on the field (when he was available ) was great. But.....he screwed everyone with his off field ways. Let DW fade away like he deserves. So defend your buddy all you want...…….
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Post by CardsFanQC on Sept 1, 2018 6:05:45 GMT -7
I believe strongly that Campbell is on PS (if not picked up by other team) but this move makes me very afraid that Brandon Williams might have made the 53-man roster. Zeke Turner has definitely made the team since the coaches went to him early and moved him from safety to LB which is our thinnest area. Coaches don't make that move unless they identified him early as a nickel LB.
BTW: Don't know if this will happen but it is a possibility McCrane will be on PS because if Dawson's kickoffs start going too short (allowing for nice returns) or he misses an important FG, coaches are pretty quick to try new kicker.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2018 6:13:53 GMT -7
Hope posters with twitter, etc keep posting about who and what in this area.
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Post by Boomer on Sept 1, 2018 7:09:54 GMT -7
I believe strongly that Campbell is on PS (if not picked up by other team) but this move makes me very afraid that Brandon Williams might have made the 53-man roster. Zeke Turner has definitely made the team since the coaches went to him early and moved him from safety to LB which is our thinnest area. Coaches don't make that move unless they identified him early as a nickel LB.
BTW: Don't know if this will happen but it is a possibility McCrane will be on PS because if Dawson's kickoffs start going too short (allowing for nice returns) or he misses an important FG, coaches are pretty quick to try new kicker.
Unless they are named Amos Jones. Fortunately we don't have that concern anymore.
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Post by belac44 on Sept 1, 2018 8:30:49 GMT -7
Hope posters with twitter, etc keep posting about who and what in this area. This was done yesterday but I didn’t think it was post worthy. LB Matt Oplinger was also cut.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2018 8:44:27 GMT -7
Yeah NFLcom has only 4 cuts shown for the Cards as of 9AM CDST this morning"
TE Alec Bloom, CB Chris Campbell, LB Matthew Oplinger, LB Scooby Wright, they don't even List McCrane yet.
In contrast the Falcs have listed 41 cuts!
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