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Post by CardCore on Mar 25, 2020 20:29:07 GMT -7
For all those that are actually pointing a finger at Hopkins work ethic during the week I will leave you with this. I work in the sales industry and there are constant product changes that require daily training and updates along with reviews of customer profiles to insure we are on top of the market. With that being said, there are individuals that are very adept at selling our products regardless of how many meetings they attend. We don't force the attendance issue with these individuals because the production is always there, week in and week out. My motto has always been YDFWYS which translates to You Don't F*** With Your Superstars. I could care less how much Hopkins practices as long as he kicks ass on game day. He's that kind of talent. That is a pathetic comparison. We're discussing putting in a new game plan with 53 guys that will be playing against an entirely different team than the one they just got through playing. They ALL need to be on the same page and? They have ONE WEEK. If it wasn't important they wouldn't do it at all. Tell me who is doing it right....and who is doing it wrong, between Fitz and Hopkins? Which attitude would you want to be coaching?
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Post by Zaz on Mar 25, 2020 21:38:38 GMT -7
Yep. and different people are going to react differently to that. I imagine fans who call PP "a diva" will probably get mad at Hop for not practicing. Also call him a diva, because they are unimaginative. I have 0 problem with a player not practicing, so long as they bring it on gameday. Furthermore, I dont believe in "mentors" or leading by example. Players of any age should be able to self motivate. the sixers have been my nba team for nearly 50 years. i thought iverson needed to practice , maybe not every day but a lot with his team so they could function as a team. in hop's case he is a wr, kinda a loner position BUT HE NEEDS CHEMISTRY WITH KM. c'mon we talkin about practice
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Post by belac44 on Mar 26, 2020 0:32:23 GMT -7
Guess my source came through, this was not anywhere when I brought this up. Can your source tell us who we are likely to take #8? Honestly Ceedee Lamb or a trade down looking very realistic. I will follow up in a few weeks. So much can change in a month
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Post by End Zone on Mar 26, 2020 3:36:41 GMT -7
I read an article yesterday that discussed an unnamed Cardinal FO source saying the GM is not done being aggressive in FA. How so, I wondered? Not much cap left to dicker with. A trade perhaps? Then I thought, maybe the source was misleading, and the GM is done with big FA moves and trades and completely focused on the Draft in a couple weeks. That's when I thought about Kliff Kingsbury's request for additional scoring weapons and what weapons are available at #8.
Bam! I was right back to thinking the GM might take a WR with the first pick. Why not? TDs win games.
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Post by Boomer on Mar 26, 2020 4:34:02 GMT -7
For all those that are actually pointing a finger at Hopkins work ethic during the week I will leave you with this. I work in the sales industry and there are constant product changes that require daily training and updates along with reviews of customer profiles to insure we are on top of the market. With that being said, there are individuals that are very adept at selling our products regardless of how many meetings they attend. We don't force the attendance issue with these individuals because the production is always there, week in and week out. My motto has always been YDFWYS which translates to You Don't F*** With Your Superstars. I could care less how much Hopkins practices as long as he kicks ass on game day. He's that kind of talent. That is a pathetic comparison. We're discussing putting in a new game plan with 53 guys that will be playing against an entirely different team than the one they just got through playing. They ALL need to be on the same page and? They have ONE WEEK. If it wasn't important they wouldn't do it at all. Tell me who is doing it right....and who is doing it wrong, between Fitz and Hopkins? Which attitude would you want to be coaching? How do you think Hopkins has been so successful in his career? Is it because he has talent or because he goes to all the meetings and practices? There will be plenty of instances where getting "extra" reps or rehashing the same game plan will no longer be effective as he has demonstrated that he understands how the game is to be played and has the physical tools to make it work at a high level. Remember when Showalter was coaching the D-Backs and was so rigid he had rules as to which socks were to be worn on which days during practices? As soon as he was gone and Brenly took over and loosened the noose....BAM....World Series victory. Hopkins can play and there is no need to sit on his, or anyone else's head during the week if they are winning games.
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Post by UKcardinal on Mar 26, 2020 5:25:28 GMT -7
Do people really think Hopkins is going to walk through the door then decide to take 3 days off a week? What I assume will be the case, once he has built up his chemistry with Kyler and learnt the playbook he might have the extra vet day off per week which is afforded to the older guys. But no before he has done the groundwork.
As far as I know, and listening to Clemson and Texans fans, he has been the model professional in Houston. Turns up, works hard, never complains, never in the spotlight, never been in trouble, plays through injuries, never leaked things to the media about him being unhappy with his coach.
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Post by CardCore on Mar 26, 2020 10:58:13 GMT -7
That is a pathetic comparison. We're discussing putting in a new game plan with 53 guys that will be playing against an entirely different team than the one they just got through playing. They ALL need to be on the same page and? They have ONE WEEK. If it wasn't important they wouldn't do it at all. Tell me who is doing it right....and who is doing it wrong, between Fitz and Hopkins? Which attitude would you want to be coaching? How do you think Hopkins has been so successful in his career? Is it because he has talent or because he goes to all the meetings and practices? There will be plenty of instances where getting "extra" reps or rehashing the same game plan will no longer be effective as he has demonstrated that he understands how the game is to be played and has the physical tools to make it work at a high level. Remember when Showalter was coaching the D-Backs and was so rigid he had rules as to which socks were to be worn on which days during practices? As soon as he was gone and Brenly took over and loosened the noose....BAM....World Series victory. Hopkins can play and there is no need to sit on his, or anyone else's head during the week if they are winning games. Yeah, there is a reason. It has everything to do with the message it sends to the team. We can agree to disagree Boomer. Going by your thinking though, it should be fine for Tom Brady to decide that practice is no big deal, and if Bruce Arians doesn't like that he should just suck it up. Lol. Not happening. At any rate, this whole discussion is based on a comment from Albert Breer that may well be little more than total BS. I'm not gonna believe it until it's an actual issue. If and when that happens I'll just change my AV and carry on.
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Post by jeffcardinalfan on Mar 29, 2020 3:41:37 GMT -7
the sixers have been my nba team for nearly 50 years. i thought iverson needed to practice , maybe not every day but a lot with his team so they could function as a team. in hop's case he is a wr, kinda a loner position BUT HE NEEDS CHEMISTRY WITH KM. c'mon we talkin about practice dont you have to practice before you can talk PLAYOFFS? PLAYOFS? PLAYOFFS?
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Post by Drachir on Apr 4, 2020 11:28:16 GMT -7
WOW I just saw a stat that makes DeAndre Hopkins more valuable. He is ranked the 2nd most valuable non-QB since 2017. Here is the stat though. He has dropped only 1 pass in 127 while being targeted on 3rd downs. That is impressive.
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