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Post by belac44 on Mar 13, 2020 19:32:04 GMT -7
So I had a friend text me a few hours ago saying his friend has some ties to Cardinals and said that Cards had a deal in place for DeAndre Hopkins and would announce Sunday. I chose not to mention here, because I feel its a long shot and don’t really buy it.
Well, a few hours later and I get a message from a different person with no ties to either of the other two and he said rumors are we are we are trying to get Hopkins.
I will believe it when I see it, but there is some rumblings about this obviously. Young and on relatively cheap contract. 3 years left and I do not recall every hearing he was unhappy.
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Post by Dry Heat on Mar 14, 2020 0:05:48 GMT -7
Wow. Now that would be interesting if true. He would be an actual Larry Fitzgerald, proven perennial Pro Bowl WR1 at about the cost we’ve been paying Larry year to year, and 27 yrs old. Never misses games. Stud. D Johnson and Pat P? Our first rounder gone? What would a 4 time pro bowl young WR who consistently averages 1000+ yards and 9 TDs cost? They are expected to have to use up all their cap to re-sign Watson to what might be the biggest QB contract yet. Also on Tunsil. Hopkin’s dead cap is not terrible and would save them $11 million this year. Maybe allow them to keep Reader and Hyde, two guys named as free agents cards might be interested in? Research says their off-season needs are RB with Hyde a FA and passing defense. I wonder if they think a “shut down” corner could put them over the top, and/or the D Johnson can still be the guy he was? Maybe take one of our 2nd year WRs that they may have coveted as well? Share more if you hear more, and tune in Sunday I guess. Edit:also note that Houston and Cardinals are two of the three teams supposedly interested in Trent Williams. A three-way trade? And then there is this: theathletic.com/1668173/2020/03/10/should-the-texans-trade-for-rb-david-johnson-lets-consider-pros-and-cons/And $2.1 million of Johnson’s contract kicks in unless traded by March 20, so regardless keep an eye on something happening by Friday if it’s going to. |
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Post by End Zone on Mar 14, 2020 4:09:38 GMT -7
Wow. Now that would be interesting if true. He would be an actual Larry Fitzgerald, proven perennial Pro Bowl WR1 at about the cost we’ve been paying Larry year to year, and 27 yrs old. Never misses games. Stud. D Johnson and Pat P? Our first rounder gone? What would a 4 time pro bowl young WR who consistently averages 1000+ yards and 9 TDs cost? They are expected to have to use up all their cap to re-sign Watson to what might be the biggest QB contract yet. Also on Tunsil. Hopkin’s dead cap is not terrible and would save them $11 million this year. Maybe allow them to keep Reader and Hyde, two guys named as free agents cards might be interested in? Research says they’re off-season needs are RB with Hyde a FA and passing defense. I wonder if they think a “shut down” corner could put them over the top, and/or the D Johnson can still be the guy he was? Maybe take one of our 2nd year WRs that they may have coveted as well? Share more if you hear more, and tune in Sunday I guess. Edit:also note that Houston and Cardinals are two of the three teams supposedly interested in Trent Williams. A three-way trade? And then there is this: theathletic.com/1668173/2020/03/10/should-the-texans-trade-for-rb-david-johnson-lets-consider-pros-and-cons/And $2.1 million of Johnson’s contract kicks in unless traded by March 20, so regardless keep an eye on something happening by Friday if it’s going to. Hmmm? I cannot find a hint online anywhere about Hopkins getting moved. I do remember Spotrac data and the DJ payments due 20 March. I wish I was paid like that. Williams and Hopkins at Arizona would certainly change the dynamics on Offense. But at what cost, in terms of locker room cohesion and cap? Both will demand big paydays. Keim can figure that out. He better not give away draft choices though. Moving DJ's contract might help with our cap problem too. Texas will have to help with $$ though. Hopkins certainly is an instant #1 WR. He's a class act, all in at every game, tough and dangerous, and a mirror image of Larry's combative style. Williams could be the final solution alongside Hump. |
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Post by belac44 on Mar 14, 2020 10:55:54 GMT -7
I have a hard time believing this honestly. I did get more details (again, take it for what you want)
Its the whole, my cousins, sisters, husbands, nephew nonsense.
A guy we know, my friend is really close with him, is friends with a guy that works with Cardinals. He says its in the works, even doubled down today and said we should hear something tomorrow.
I do not believe this will be true personally.
Reading Dry Heat’s post though, I can see how it could be possible I suppose.
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Post by Dry Heat on Mar 14, 2020 11:38:51 GMT -7
I have a hard time believing this honestly. I did get more details (again, take it for what you want) Its the whole, my cousins, sisters, husbands, nephew nonsense. A guy we know, my friend is really close with him, is friends with a guy that works with Cardinals. He says its in the works, even doubled down today and said we should hear something tomorrow. I do not believe this will be true personally. Reading Dry Heat’s post though, I can see how it could be possible I suppose. Everything is always some level of possible, and I enjoy looking for clues to point at what might actually be possible. We fans tend to look at the easy stuff...big boards for the draft and big boards for known free agents. But then suddenly Chandler Jones is on our team, who zero people were talking about as a possibility. These are the things the G.M.’s and staff make the big bucks for. It would make sense to approach each GM and discuss a reshuffling of players vs needs in context of the unique situations of each team. Texans are a ten win team right on the cusp, and may want a 30 year old shut down corner and DJ more than what a WR offers them? Who knows? |
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Post by cardinal225 on Mar 14, 2020 11:56:04 GMT -7
I have a hard time believing this honestly. I did get more details (again, take it for what you want) Its the whole, my cousins, sisters, husbands, nephew nonsense. A guy we know, my friend is really close with him, is friends with a guy that works with Cardinals. He says its in the works, even doubled down today and said we should hear something tomorrow. I do not believe this will be true personally. Reading Dry Heat’s post though, I can see how it could be possible I suppose. Everything is always some level of possible, and I enjoy looking for clues to point at what might actually be possible. We fans tend to look at the easy stuff...big boards for the draft and big boards for known free agents. But then suddenly Chandler Jones is on our team, who zero people were talking about as a possibility. These are the things the G.M.’s and staff make the big bucks for. It would make sense to approach each GM and discuss a reshuffling of players vs needs in context of the unique situations of each team. Texans are a ten win team right on the cusp, and may want a 30 year old shut down corner and DJ more than what a WR offers them? Who knows? they can get cheaper at wide out in the draft. |
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Post by Dry Heat on Mar 14, 2020 12:10:10 GMT -7
Everything is always some level of possible, and I enjoy looking for clues to point at what might actually be possible. We fans tend to look at the easy stuff...big boards for the draft and big boards for known free agents. But then suddenly Chandler Jones is on our team, who zero people were talking about as a possibility. These are the things the G.M.’s and staff make the big bucks for. It would make sense to approach each GM and discuss a reshuffling of players vs needs in context of the unique situations of each team. Texans are a ten win team right on the cusp, and may want a 30 year old shut down corner and DJ more than what a WR offers them? Who knows? they can get cheaper at wide out in the draft. I think 3 of the top 6 or 9 most expensive players on Houston’s roster are WR’s. Hopkins is #2. And they have to sign their stud QB and LT. |
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Post by Zaz on Mar 14, 2020 12:25:11 GMT -7
Considering a trade of that magnitude would require our #8 overall pick, I call bull
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Post by jeffcardinalfan on Mar 14, 2020 12:30:20 GMT -7
imho giving up pp and dj would be . im ok with sending dj and eating some of his contract IF drake is resigned. i dont want to go into season with edmunds and a rookie at rb. big no on trent williams since humph got paid. love hopkins though.
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Post by belac44 on Mar 14, 2020 15:16:33 GMT -7
imho giving up pp and dj would be . im ok with sending dj and eating some of his contract IF drake is resigned. i dont want to go into season with edmunds and a rookie at rb. big no on trent williams since humph got paid. love hopkins though. I’m fine with trading DJ. You cant trade PP21 without a high end replacement in mind though. I have even heard a couple predictions we might look at Carlos Hyde. |
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Post by belac44 on Mar 14, 2020 15:18:15 GMT -7
Considering a trade of that magnitude would require our #8 overall pick, I call bull In that case I stick at 8 and take Lamb on rookie contract and Kylers boy. Flip side, you hope that Lamb can become what Hopkins already is. I hate giving up first round picks so that would be tough. But, Hopkins is legit. I still don’t see it happening regardless. |
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Post by cardinal225 on Mar 14, 2020 18:03:59 GMT -7
Who to say that it’s for the 8th pick?
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Post by cardinal225 on Mar 14, 2020 18:05:56 GMT -7
It could be for the 2nd rounder and trade down to get it back or trade with either Miami or the Raiders for 2 1st rounders than it gets tricky 🤔
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Post by belac44 on Mar 14, 2020 19:15:56 GMT -7
Who to say that it’s for the 8th pick? I think people are just thinking or a pro bowl receiver that is 26 years old on reasonable contract it will probably take more than a second. |
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Post by Dry Heat on Mar 14, 2020 20:51:03 GMT -7
What does a 10 win team need to put them over the edge for a shot to win now in 2020? Rookies from draft picks or proven older vets at positions of weakness? The answer is vets. I’d look at our vets that won’t be of as much use in years 2021-23. Peters if they think they are losing Reading, PP21, D Johnson as they have no vet RBs.
I wouldn’t want to give up high picks. Picks are what young, building sub-.500 teams need. That and young, rising players in FA or trade.
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