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Post by rooseveltcardsfan on Aug 19, 2018 5:51:15 GMT -7
in 2021 there will only be 2 preseason games. How do you think that will work? It seems to me that some teams are already trying to figure out how to be ready. I’ve notice that the boilerplate preseason scheme has changed this year. Starters are playing less than in the past. Some teams are focusing on the rookies and free agents that are floating around, than they are the starters. 18 game regular season will change the preseason philosophy in the NFL. I’m probably wrong, it just seems different this year on some teams.
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Post by Boomer on Aug 19, 2018 6:33:37 GMT -7
in 2021 there will only be 2 preseason games. How do you think that will work? It seems to me that some teams are already trying to figure out how to be ready. I’ve notice that the boilerplate preseason scheme has changed this year. Starters are playing less than in the past. Some teams are focusing on the rookies and free agents that are floating around, than they are the starters. 18 game regular season will change the preseason philosophy in the NFL. I’m probably wrong, it just seems different this year on some teams. 4 preseason games is too many. 2 is plenty and the league should compensate by allowing a longer training camp and more scrimmages with other teams. If you can't figure out who should be on your roster after TC and two preseason games, you need to find another career and if players are going to be lost for the season due to injury, let it happen during a real game and not some meaningless preseason game. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2018 6:55:05 GMT -7
I don't think they should do this. It's going to make it harder for the rookies and UDFAs to get significant reps to show who can really play on the field vs who can practice well. Our own Munyer is a prime example.
Disagree here too.
18 regular season games is going to Up the injuries. And it will become a game of attrition to get to the playoffs.
Nope don't think this is a good idea at all.
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Post by In the Cards on Aug 19, 2018 7:20:27 GMT -7
I really don't like the idea of an 18 game regular season. Cutting down the PS to two weeks sounds great, in fact, I'd be in favor of cutting down the regular season to 14 games. We don't really *need* those 2 same-place intra- conference games.
I know that would never happen, but I think the league could compensate by allowing more teams into the post-season. Perhaps just a 7th seed and 8th seed that expands the playoffs by an additional week. Seeds 3-4 would get one buy while 1-2 get two buys.
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Post by CardsFanQC on Aug 19, 2018 7:27:50 GMT -7
2 Pre-Season Games --
1) either have 17 regular season games and 2 bye weeks
2) 18 regular season games and 2 bye weeks and no week off prior to SB or just move the SB back 1 week.
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Post by rooseveltcardsfan on Aug 19, 2018 7:34:32 GMT -7
I really don't like the idea of an 18 game regular season. Cutting down the PS to two weeks sounds great, in fact, I'd be in favor of cutting down the regular season to 14 games. We don't really *need* those 2 same-place intra- conference games. I know that would never happen, but I think the league could compensate by allowing more teams into the post-season. Perhaps just a 7th seed and 8th seed that expands the playoffs by an additional week. Seeds 3-4 would get one buy while 1-2 get two buys. They will definitely go to 18 games. I think they will expand the roster and practice squad. 4-6 players is my guess. They will change the IR rules. Allow more availability to return. Get rid of the kickoff completely. (Which I think is a bad idea) Give every team 2 bye weeks and increase the games played in Europe and Mexico. That will increase the length of the season, 3 more weeks of prime time football. That will increase revenue of the tv money by 10% or more. First and foremost the NFL is a business it’s all about the money. |
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Post by Boomer on Aug 19, 2018 8:03:12 GMT -7
I don't think they should do this. It's going to make it harder for the rookies and UDFAs to get significant reps to show who can really play on the field vs who can practice well. Our own Munyer is a prime example. Disagree here too. 18 regular season games is going to Up the injuries. And it will become a game of attrition to get to the playoffs. Nope don't think this is a good idea at all. 20 games is 20 games |
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Post by pajaro cerebro on Aug 19, 2018 8:04:36 GMT -7
I'm with stvcardsfan's #2 suggestion. And I also think expanding the roster and practice squad by several players would be a good idea too.
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Post by Cardinals Junkie on Aug 19, 2018 8:42:51 GMT -7
I'm good with the 4 preseason games. It's helps with the on field evaluation process. Starters barely play the fist couple so their bodies are not getting abused there. You've got 40 something people to cut and its good for coaches to see them in game day action. Imagine having to evaluate the players after our first 2 preseason games this year. Some players looked good in game 1 and not good in game 2 and vice versa. The couple extra games really help the new guys.
As for the bye week discussion, I think that the bye week should be the weekend before the Thursday night games. This way instead of just 4 days before the next game then they would get 11 days before the game and 9 days after the game before the next games.
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Post by rdo3 on Aug 19, 2018 9:09:25 GMT -7
I really don't like the idea of an 18 game regular season. Cutting down the PS to two weeks sounds great, in fact, I'd be in favor of cutting down the regular season to 14 games. We don't really *need* those 2 same-place intra- conference games. I know that would never happen, but I think the league could compensate by allowing more teams into the post-season. Perhaps just a 7th seed and 8th seed that expands the playoffs by an additional week. Seeds 3-4 would get one buy while 1-2 get two buys. They will definitely go to 18 games. I think they will expand the roster and practice squad. 4-6 players is my guess. They will change the IR rules. Allow more availability to return. Get rid of the kickoff completely. (Which I think is a bad idea) Give every team 2 bye weeks and increase the games played in Europe and Mexico. That will increase the length of the season, 3 more weeks of prime time football. That will increase revenue of the tv money by 10% or more. First and foremost the NFL is a business it’s all about the money. 3 more weeks wont mater. tv contracts are done by the year, same with player salaries. the only gain teams would see is from ticket sales, concessions, parking and stuff like that. they would also have to pay more stadium rent and employees so i'm not sure how much some will make. the real nfl money is in the licensing, tv rights and madden. tv ratings are down so they aren't going to get much more money if any there. the league used to have a euro league and it folded. euros are like south America, they don't care about football, they like soccer. American football loses money in Europe and that's why it folded. there are two new football leagues starting, afl and a new xfl. xfl i'm not interested in but if the afl is like the usfl i'll watch that. the afl already has a tv contract. two preseason games will not give enough time to evaluate all the rookies. and who knows what the new cba will look like. with the rookie caps many rookies may decide to go afl rather than nfl because everybody is gonna be a 1st year player in the afl so rookies will make the same as the highest paid players since the highest paid players will be rookies. the nfl wont be in a vacuum in 2021, they will have competition. if the other game is more fun to watch that's what people will watch. team history and loyalty wont mater because many teams and players put themselves 1st and forget about the fans. teams move every year it seems. the nfl may be kapernacking themselves. |
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Post by biggs on Aug 19, 2018 10:10:45 GMT -7
If the goal is to make more money for the owners good move.
If you want a better quality league and game reduce the games, increase mandatory contact training before the season starts and reduce the number of teams in the league. Less teams means better rosters and coaches.
The league is basically designed to create fan interest through a competition based on mediocrity, attrition and expanding playoffs rather than excellence. Going to an 18 game schedule does nothing to change that.
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Post by jeffcardinalfan on Aug 19, 2018 10:57:13 GMT -7
XFL AFL there is very little chance that both of these leagues survive...the one that does will be the one that gets a big tv contract and im not sure that will happen...an interesting twist: what if google jumped in and xfl or afl games were available ONLY on the internet?
NEW CBA owners are going to want more games and expanded playoffs...players are gonna want 100% guaranteed contracts, shorter training camp, less preseason games, no increase in regular season games, and less penalties for substance abuse-its not gonna be publicized but I expect discipline for smoking weed will be much less. players are also gonna want the contractual ability to use their public game days to demonstrate their political views as well as bigger rosters and higher league minimum salaries.
both sides had better be careful of nf could become wrestling
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Post by Zaz on Aug 19, 2018 12:02:03 GMT -7
I disagree that "4 PS games is too many"
The PS is for try-outs. Guys trying to make NFL teams. So giving them every opportunity to shine is important. I dont care if its boring. I have compassion for those few guys who are still trying to make the NFL before it all ends and they have to begin their lives as regular shnooks
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Post by knobby on Aug 19, 2018 12:43:38 GMT -7
XFL AFL there is very little chance that both of these leagues survive...the one that does will be the one that gets a big tv contract and im not sure that will happen...an interesting twist: what if google jumped in and xfl or afl games were available ONLY on the internet?
NEW CBA owners are going to want more games and expanded playoffs...players are gonna want 100% guaranteed contracts, shorter training camp, less preseason games, no increase in regular season games, and less penalties for substance abuse-its not gonna be publicized but I expect discipline for smoking weed will be much less. players are also gonna want the contractual ability to use their public game days to demonstrate their political views as well as bigger rosters and higher league minimum salaries.
both sides had better be careful of nf could become wrestling
It is getting close now, IMO. The rule changes, demonstrations and cost have consequences that reduce support and viewer interest. When those factors achieve critical mass, it will be all downhill.
If the upstart leagues are to succeed, they will learn from the actions by the NFL and avoid the same mistakes. It is not inconceivable that either the XFL or AFL could become the big winner eventually - if the NFL owners don't supply what the public wants. If what the owners and players want remains as first consideration at the expense of supporters, the end is nigh because no fan interest = no NFL income = no NFL.
Again IMO, this board is an example of the result of a act by the Cardinals in eliminating their own forum site (along with other NFL teams). The demand by the public was still there, so thanks to three doers this board came to life - and is filling a need very well indeed, and at no cost to anyone. Volunteers made it, volunteers keep it going, and there is no tie or obligation to the Cardinals organization.
The decision to drop online forums by NFL teams was apparently agreed between owners/teams fairly recently as a cost reduction measure or perhaps as a nuisance of no value, or maybe some pointed and critical comments hit a sore spot. Regardless of the reasoning behind that decision, it is a symptom of being oblivious to the impact on those who support the game, and who are the ultimate reason a football league succeeds - or not.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2018 12:52:54 GMT -7
I don't think they should do this. It's going to make it harder for the rookies and UDFAs to get significant reps to show who can really play on the field vs who can practice well. Our own Munyer is a prime example. Disagree here too. 18 regular season games is going to Up the injuries. And it will become a game of attrition to get to the playoffs. Nope don't think this is a good idea at all. 20 games is 20 games Overly simplistic response. The 2 extra PS games are for the new players into the league to have a chance to make a team. Cutting that back reduces that opportunity in so many ways. Is yiur response just over not having to pay regular season ticket price for 2 PS games? |
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