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Post by aris on Oct 15, 2024 19:56:35 GMT -7
He's in the last year of his deal. He's going to be thirty years old next season. He's been an amazing RB for us. I was wrong about him after they signed him again.
I know it would be an unpopular opinion but I wouldn't resign him. 30 year old running backs decline very precipitously.
Only 2 running backs post thirty years old have averaged over 100 yard/game. Tiki Barber and Walter Payton. 3 had 90 yards /game. Barry Sanders, Corey Dillon and Adrian Peterson. That's how hard it is . Those are all GREAT running backs.
Fans will yell "give him the money" much like they did with David Johnson. but I wouldn't do it here. Don't be emotional, it's time to move on.
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Post by cardinalsdo on Oct 15, 2024 22:21:39 GMT -7
I guess the better question is "Why would you sign him?"
He will be over 30. He has a history of injuries. This is clearly a rebuilding team with weaknesses at multiple positions. Running back is one that you can reasonably address in later rounds in the draft. There is no reason to tie up a lot of money in Connor when we have weaknesses on the offensive line. Unless you genuinely feel this team can contend next year, I would not pay him. There is not really any good reason to re-sign him.
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Post by devongent on Oct 16, 2024 0:38:34 GMT -7
"Why would you sign him?"
I'd be looking to bring him back on a one year deal (we can then manage his contract year to year). Without Conner on-board our Offense would be really anemic this season, and in the greater scheme of things (overall size of the playing staff budget), then I consider there is a sensible deal to be done. Reaching thirty may mean his output will start to curtail, but there is no reason to suggest this will fall off a cliff. Also, he is a huge personality within the locker room and I am sure a very positive influence to have around (a real player's professional to look up to and follow). Running back is one that you can reasonably address in later rounds in the draft. I hear this argument all the time, but how many of these 'lower round bargains' actually transpire into influential game-changers in the NFL? |
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Post by Dry Heat on Oct 16, 2024 9:21:28 GMT -7
Love the guy. I wouldn’t resign him. Father Time is brutal to football players, especially at the RB position.
I thought we drafted his replacement in Benson, but we haven’t seen evidence he can yet.
I love Budda Baker too. Think it may be time to look at trade offers. We are paying too much money to the safety position, which is almost as as paying big contracts to running backs.
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Post by Cardinals Junkie on Oct 16, 2024 16:48:03 GMT -7
I'd be looking to bring him back on a one year deal (we can then manage his contract year to year). I would too. Conner has given his all for us. Even if he slides from RB1 to RB2 then he still has value. |
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Post by cardinalsins on Oct 16, 2024 17:32:30 GMT -7
Maybe a 1 or 2 year deal that was friendly on the books?
Concrete is one of my favorite players, regardless of teams.
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Post by Dry Heat on Oct 16, 2024 18:26:45 GMT -7
"Why would you sign him?"
I'd be looking to bring him back on a one year deal (we can then manage his contract year to year). Without Conner on-board our Offense would be really anemic this season, and in the greater scheme of things (overall size of the playing staff budget), then I consider there is a sensible deal to be done. Reaching thirty may mean his output will start to curtail, but there is no reason to suggest this will fall off a cliff. Also, he is a huge personality within the locker room and I am sure a very positive influence to have around (a real player's professional to look up to and follow). Running back is one that you can reasonably address in later rounds in the draft. I hear this argument all the time, but how many of these 'lower round bargains' actually transpire into influential game-changers in the NFL? I didn’t address the “back on a one year deal” option because I don’t think it’s realistic he would do one. Like all 30 year old RBs he will want his one last big contract. He would only do a one year if he had to throw a Hail Mary and do a prove it deal after an injury or bad season. Someone will give him a multi-year contract. |
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Post by devongent on Oct 17, 2024 3:18:02 GMT -7
I didn’t address the “back on a one year deal” option because I don’t think it’s realistic he would do one. Like all 30 year old RBs he will want his one last big contract. Two years any good? Two years I would say is maximum; all depends on the overall terms, how much pay, what is guaranteed etc. If the wage cost is reasonable I could go with two years, if he wants paying 'top-dollar' (for the RB position) then one year. Monti will have much negotiating to do, but that it's job and what he gets paid to do. |
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Post by End Zone on Oct 17, 2024 3:50:29 GMT -7
I voted to move on from RB Connor.
I thank Connor for the exciting games as an Arizona Cardinals RB. He is a master craftsman. Connor can easily find a new team and a short-term contract elsewhere.
So, why move on now? RBs work hard and break down. They should be replaced regularly. Connor's replacement was drafted in 2024. RB Benson is about ready to take over and will be the #1 RB in 2025. Then, Benson's replacement should be finishing High School likely in the spring of 2025 and be drafted by the Cardinals in 2028. And so on.
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Post by aris on Oct 17, 2024 7:24:16 GMT -7
Maybe a 1 or 2 year deal that was friendly on the books? Concrete is one of my favorite players, regardless of teams. Fans always say this . Players want as much as they can , why would they take less. He wouldn't do this. |
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Post by cardinalsdo on Oct 17, 2024 10:52:42 GMT -7
Maybe a 1 or 2 year deal that was friendly on the books? Concrete is one of my favorite players, regardless of teams. Fans always say this . Players want as much as they can , why would they take less. He wouldn't do this.
Agreed but realistically who is going to give a 30 yo RB a multi year contract. When the Dallas Cowboys cut perennial All Pro RB Ezekial Elliott after he got old why would a team give a guy with less of a track record and a history of injuries a multi year deal worth millions? Agreed that Conner is playing at a much higher level than Zeke but still, he is not worth a large contract. Teams would much rather opt for a younger more athletic RB on a favorable rookie contract. And you can get a quality Pro Bowl caliber RB in the 2nd or 3rd round.
To be honest, I'm surprised we are even debating this
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Post by cardinalsins on Oct 17, 2024 11:12:21 GMT -7
Maybe a 1 or 2 year deal that was friendly on the books? Concrete is one of my favorite players, regardless of teams. Fans always say this . Players want as much as they can , why would they take less. He wouldn't do this. You're right. He should not take any sort of discount. I just don't see anyone giving him a significant contract. If anything, he might be traded away if we continue to lose, especially if a contender loses their RB1. Next year's running back class is full of talent too. Ashton Jeanty is freaking ridiculous, not that we should draft him. |
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Post by aris on Oct 17, 2024 11:33:18 GMT -7
Fans always say this . Players want as much as they can , why would they take less. He wouldn't do this. You're right. He should not take any sort of discount. I just don't see anyone giving him a significant contract. If anything, he might be traded away if we could tinge to lose, especially if a contender loses their RB1. Next year's running back class is full of talent too. Ashton Jeanty is freaking ridiculous, not that we should draft him. That's probably also true. Will any team cave and give him a bigger deal? Teams are smart now about RB's. Will the Cardinals cave like Keim/Jr. did with David Johnson. They gave him and unbelievable contract when they didn't even have to. LOL. So many fans were screaming "pay the man". Made me sick to my stomach when I saw the contract they gave him. And of course he just gave up at that point and fell down when he got the ball. James has done so well. He looks so hungry this year (for another contract). He's been paid handsomely , and I hope the team is smart and walks away. |
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Post by aris on Oct 17, 2024 11:35:29 GMT -7
I'd be looking to bring him back on a one year deal (we can then manage his contract year to year). Without Conner on-board our Offense would be really anemic this season, and in the greater scheme of things (overall size of the playing staff budget), then I consider there is a sensible deal to be done. Reaching thirty may mean his output will start to curtail, but there is no reason to suggest this will fall off a cliff. Also, he is a huge personality within the locker room and I am sure a very positive influence to have around (a real player's professional to look up to and follow). I hear this argument all the time, but how many of these 'lower round bargains' actually transpire into influential game-changers in the NFL? I didn’t address the “back on a one year deal” option because I don’t think it’s realistic he would do one. Like all 30 year old RBs he will want his one last big contract. He would only do a one year if he had to throw a Hail Mary and do a prove it deal after an injury or bad season. Someone will give him a multi-year contract. I'm not sure any team would actually, and that will be the dilemma all parties in this face. Just don't cave and give him more than one year. It will be a test of the new management. |
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Post by Dry Heat on Oct 17, 2024 11:53:55 GMT -7
I didn’t address the “back on a one year deal” option because I don’t think it’s realistic he would do one. Like all 30 year old RBs he will want his one last big contract. He would only do a one year if he had to throw a Hail Mary and do a prove it deal after an injury or bad season. Someone will give him a multi-year contract. I'm not sure any team would actually, and that will be the dilemma all parties in this face. Just don't cave and give him more than one year. It will be a test of the new management. Good point, it will be a good test of the new management. Same Ol Cardinals or something new for us? What do you guys think would do more for our running game over the next 10 years? A first round RT and second round guard in 2025, or a 1st or second round RB? |
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