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Post by supercard on Sept 19, 2024 17:46:38 GMT -7
That’s true, they had offensive guys out.
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Post by MT Diesel on Sept 20, 2024 6:21:07 GMT -7
What is the Lion's weakest position?
The Lions DBs are the biggest weakness...they have been poor at defending the pass.
What is supposed to be the Lion's strongest position?
However, the Lions have not been able to run the ball as expected. The inconsistency in the run success has put them in a bind.
Add how bad Goff is and the Cards are being picked by many talking heads to win this week.
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Post by flash on Sept 20, 2024 7:00:59 GMT -7
The Lions kept both the Bucs and the Rams to 20 points each...
Considering that the Bucs scored 37 points in their first game against the Commanders....not allowing more than 20 points...is pretty good... Also, these WR's had these stats in the Rams game against the Lions
Kupp 110 receiving yards 1 TD
Nakua 35 receiving yards 0 TD
Johnson 79 receiving yards 0 TD
Stafford had 317 passing yards and 1 TD and 1 Interception
But yet the Rams only scored 20 points...
That is why I projected the score to be 24-20 Cardinals...we may not score 28 points or more...but I do think we will score more than 20 points....
The good news is that Goff only had 217 passing yards and 1 TD against the Rams defense...while Murray had 266 passing yards and 3 TD's against the Rams...
Detroit did keep Kyren Williams to 50 rushing yards and 1TD...the question will be...
WHAT WILL THE LIONS DO ABOUT CONNOR?
That last question will determine whether we win the game of not....
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Post by CardCore on Sept 20, 2024 8:56:13 GMT -7
We need to have Mack Wilson blitz more. Our offense with a healthy KM is very elite, if D can get some pressure on Qb we can maybe be 18-22 range. That should be at least in playoff territory. I could be wrong, but something tells me the Card D is already better than 18-22 range. I want to say I read they were at 13, but I can't remember where. |
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Post by MT Diesel on Sept 20, 2024 9:37:38 GMT -7
We need to have Mack Wilson blitz more. Our offense with a healthy KM is very elite, if D can get some pressure on Qb we can maybe be 18-22 range. That should be at least in playoff territory. I could be wrong, but something tells me the Card D is already better than 18-22 range. I want to say I read they were at 13, but I can't remember where. I have a hard time figuring out where there Cards rank on defense. They are a bit hamstrung until Drob returns. Also, adding Rabbit in the mix as the season progresses will assist the quality. The CBs are playing better and Wilson is the most impactful addition with his ability to fire where the ball is. It may be weeks 6-8 before we get an idea of what the defense is. Melton, Williams and SMB are the best trio of CBs the Cards have had since I can remember. Cards are built for bully ball and on defense Wilson and DRob are the two that push that agenda. Jones and Nichols help and played better, but Wilson changes the game. |
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Post by CardCore on Sept 20, 2024 10:04:10 GMT -7
This is from an updated compilation by Fox Sports: (EDIT): The Cards ranked 19th in passing D, 9th in rush D, 18th in scoring D, 21st in red zone D, and 3rd in 3rd down D.
Total Defense
1 Titans 206.5 5
2 Chargers 227.5 1
3 Texans 254 5
4 Dolphins 257 6
5 Steelers 260.5 1
6 Seahawks 270.5 3
7 Saints 273 2
8 Bears 277 3
9 Broncos 277.5 4
10 Jets 280 4
11 Bengals 288 4
12 Browns 294 4
13 Cardinals 298.5 5
14 Lions 301.5 4
15 Ravens 306.5 5
16 Bills 310.5 4
17 Falcons 317.5 2
18 Vikings 318 2
19 Patriots 327.3 6
20 Cowboys 331 8
21 49ers 334.5 5
22 Commanders 348 7
23 Jaguars 348.5 3
24 Raiders 349.5 4
25 Panthers 364 8
26 Giants 368.5 4
27 Packers 374 5
28 Buccaneers 381 4
29 Chiefs 386 4
30 Eagles 399.5 5
31 Colts 400 4
32 Rams 426 8
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Post by Dry Heat on Sept 20, 2024 14:13:13 GMT -7
This is from an updated compilation by Fox Sports: (EDIT): The Cards ranked 19th in passing D, 9th in rush D, 18th in scoring D, 21st in red zone D, and 3rd in 3rd down D. Total Defense 1 Titans 206.5 5 2 Chargers 227.5 1 3 Texans 254 5 4 Dolphins 257 6 5 Steelers 260.5 1 6 Seahawks 270.5 3 7 Saints 273 2 8 Bears 277 3 9 Broncos 277.5 4 10 Jets 280 4 11 Bengals 288 4 12 Browns 294 4 13 Cardinals 298.5 5 14 Lions 301.5 4 15 Ravens 306.5 5 16 Bills 310.5 4 17 Falcons 317.5 2 18 Vikings 318 2 19 Patriots 327.3 6 20 Cowboys 331 8 21 49ers 334.5 5 22 Commanders 348 7 23 Jaguars 348.5 3 24 Raiders 349.5 4 25 Panthers 364 8 26 Giants 368.5 4 27 Packers 374 5 28 Buccaneers 381 4 29 Chiefs 386 4 30 Eagles 399.5 5 31 Colts 400 4 32 Rams 426 8 Two games is too soon to rank a team in anything. Minimum six games to get a feel for what we are working with. Our current ranking is 50% the smack down on a battered Rams offensive line and WR’s. By end of season I’d be very happy to see us with a top 10 offense and a defense ranked around 20th. That would be huge progress from last season. I’d be ecstatic if we had a top 5 offense and around a 16th ranked defense. That’s a playoff team. My guess after two weeks is by the end of Week 8 we will be a number 11-12 offense and a 21-22 defense, and then our season schedule lightens up. |
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Post by CardCore on Sept 20, 2024 14:31:02 GMT -7
This is from an updated compilation by Fox Sports: (EDIT): The Cards ranked 19th in passing D, 9th in rush D, 18th in scoring D, 21st in red zone D, and 3rd in 3rd down D. Total Defense 1 Titans 206.5 5 2 Chargers 227.5 1 3 Texans 254 5 4 Dolphins 257 6 5 Steelers 260.5 6 Seahawks 270.5 3 7 Saints 273 2 8 Bears 277 3 9 Broncos 277.5 4 10 Jets 280 4 11 Bengals 288 4 12 Browns 294 4 13 Cardinals 298.5 5 14 Lions 301.5 4 15 Ravens 306.5 5 16 Bills 310.5 4 17 Falcons 317.5 2 18 Vikings 318 2 19 Patriots 327.3 6 20 Cowboys 331 8 21 49ers 334.5 5 22 Commanders 348 7 23 Jaguars 348.5 3 24 Raiders 349.5 4 25 Panthers 364 8 26 Giants 368.5 4 27 Packers 374 5 28 Buccaneers 381 4 29 Chiefs 386 4 30 Eagles 399.5 5 31 Colts 400 4 32 Rams 426 8 Two games is too soon to rank a team in anything. Minimum six games to get a feel for what we are working with. Our current ranking is 50% the smack down on a battered Rams offensive line and WR’s. By end of season I’d be very happy to see us with a top 10 offense and a defense ranked around 20th. That would be huge progress from last season. I’d be ecstatic if we had a top 5 offense and around a 16th ranked defense. That’s a playoff team. My guess after two weeks is by the end of Week 8 we will be a number 11-12 offense and a 21-22 defense, and then our season schedule lightens up. I get it. However, I got tired of people acting like they knew this D is not very good, and some spewing numbers that sounded pretty low for a team that hung pretty solid against the Bills and came close to doing more than that. I'm sure the numbers will change, but I also believe the D will, just like the O, improve steadily through the season. JG and Co will see to that IMO. I don't see them being ranked as low as you do DH. Something about their presence or level of confidence really caught my eye, and I just don't see it. |
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Post by Dry Heat on Sept 20, 2024 15:04:45 GMT -7
Two games is too soon to rank a team in anything. Minimum six games to get a feel for what we are working with. Our current ranking is 50% the smack down on a battered Rams offensive line and WR’s. By end of season I’d be very happy to see us with a top 10 offense and a defense ranked around 20th. That would be huge progress from last season. I’d be ecstatic if we had a top 5 offense and around a 16th ranked defense. That’s a playoff team. My guess after two weeks is by the end of Week 8 we will be a number 11-12 offense and a 21-22 defense, and then our season schedule lightens up. I get it. However, I got tired of people acting like they knew this D is not very good, and some spewing numbers that sounded pretty low for a team that hung pretty solid against the Bills and came close to doing more than that. I'm sure the numbers will change, but I also believe the D will, just like the O, improve steadily through the season. JG and Co will see to that IMO. I don't see them being ranked as low as you do DH. Something about their presence or level of confidence really caught my eye, and I just don't see it. I think talent-wise we are at best a median defense. However, teams can get in a groove and play above their talent level, and then all bets are off. When Kyler was out last year, despite the record, the coaches had us playing above talent level. And an offense controlling the field time of possession and giving the defense rest and a lead does a lot for a defense as well. We shall see! |
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Post by MT Diesel on Sept 20, 2024 16:19:43 GMT -7
I get it. However, I got tired of people acting like they knew this D is not very good, and some spewing numbers that sounded pretty low for a team that hung pretty solid against the Bills and came close to doing more than that. I'm sure the numbers will change, but I also believe the D will, just like the O, improve steadily through the season. JG and Co will see to that IMO. I don't see them being ranked as low as you do DH. Something about their presence or level of confidence really caught my eye, and I just don't see it. I think talent-wise we are at best a median defense. However, teams can get in a groove and play above their talent level, and then all bets are off. When Kyler was out last year, despite the record, the coaches had us playing above talent level. And an offense controlling the field time of possession and giving the defense rest and a lead does a lot for a defense as well. We shall see! I always remember Ditka and Ryan. The defenders all played better and harder for Ryan. Ditka would not stand for too big of personalities and think he could replace a better player with one who was coachable. He failed. Ryan…no matter where he went made defenders better and they played hard for him. Cris Long last year had a podcast with Colt as a guest. First thing he mentioned was he couldn’t dig dirt up on JG from the Eagle players. Even former players respect JG. What Ryan could do was a combo of play design and motivation. JG in a different way seems to be a player-whisperer that can get great players or even PS quality players to play hard for him. Unlike Ditka, JG makes needed personnel changes that make his defense work better, rather than being boisterous and have the defense trend down with changes in players. The players that buy-in know it is JG’s way or the highway. JG gets respect because his coaching is sound and players who buy in know the value in playing within his scheme. It builds a trust the players become comfortable with and they self coach knowing the value in the scheme. The problem with those who are former players or sports writers and reporters who are not familiar with JG the “Lack of talent” is a roadblock and with JG it is a challenge and he is confident in his ability to make chicken salad with chicken sh*t. The defense has substantially more or improved talent from 2023. They did not sign superstars, but raised the floor.JG in Philly was able to jump up in performance without demanding his wants in players first. Simmons and Marco Wilson did not buy in or have the ability to do what they were coached to do…thus by-by. Since FB is the ultimate team sport…the right culture and solid coaching gets better results than most realize. Harbaugh is a who gets similar results…he can beat you with his guys or your guys. The more games these defenders play together the better they will play. The culture is right, the floor has been raised and the scheme and coaching is solid. Rankings are not important. Consistency, following the recipe and sticking to the process= success There are details most will never notice myself included…people build reputations and they are who we think the are at times and then there are a few who seem to raise above obstacles most can never conquer. JG gets uncommon results out of the players who play for him. |
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Post by cbltv on Sept 20, 2024 16:21:00 GMT -7
So far, we only have DRob out of the D-line. Last year after 2 games we had lost both starters on the interior D-line. It made a big difference last year.
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Post by MT Diesel on Sept 20, 2024 18:01:55 GMT -7
So far, we only have DRob out of the D-line. Last year after 2 games we had lost both starters on the interior D-line. It made a big difference last year. On the flip side Beach and Dortch are at least questionable. Watch how many PS OL get activated before the game for Beach if he can not go. Gaines can play RT as well as Colon…these two are better at guard. I believe Rookie Jones may be ready as well. This is the up-side for all the backups getting pre-season snaps over starters. Barton is another option…the RT by committee may be the answer if beach is out. Dortch not as big of a concern…Weaver and Moore…plus 12 and 13 personnel. Slug fest. Colon is an important backup with his versatility as well as ability to get some quality snaps from him as a 13 hour starter or rotational player. Some have trashed his play, but I have seen more good snaps from him than bad. His floor is better than many backups. Another Mizzu player who is quality. Cbltv you may enjoy the QB school video on CC’s thread Wow…he highlights a WR running a wrong route that leads to a K1 scramble and run |
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Post by MT Diesel on Sept 21, 2024 7:55:59 GMT -7
For the 3rd week in a row, Hutchinson gets a backup RT. If Beach can not go Barton and others will have the task of slowing him down.
The Lions are reverting to the old Lions...even with a top-end roster, the performance in 2024 is meh at best. Campbell is offering excuses that it is normal for good offenses to start slow. Maybe they believe they are as good as advertised and are not working as hard as needed to keep on the upward trend from the last couple of years.
Cards can...can the Campbell Tin can liars.
Statefarm stadium is a fast natural surface and K1 can make most defenders look like they are stuck in the mud. Rams game was a wakeup to the NFL that the Cards are dangerous and a win this week adds legitimacy of the new staff and the team they assembled.
The bandwagon is accepting additions and many are starting to load on. Many have the Cards as victors this week.
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Post by Boomer on Sept 22, 2024 5:19:52 GMT -7
On the flip side Beach and Dortch are at least questionable. I'd be questionable too if I had to stare across the line at Aiden Hutchinson all game long. |
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Post by Redbirdfan62 on Sept 22, 2024 7:24:56 GMT -7
Don't be fooled by the Lions' 1-1 record. DET had that game v TB won near the end of the 3rd qtr. A couple missplays and HC decisions flipped the win to TB. DET's offense romped over TB's defense, gaining 463 yards. First downs: DET 26 to TB 14. The Lions had two scoring drives of 12 and 13 plays. That's comparable to what ARZ did to LAR on Sunday. Yet, TB won, 20-16. TB did just enough for 3 quarters to hang around and then seal off DET's QB/RB/WR to close out the game in the 4th qtr. Why did DET lose? One eye-popping stat was TB's 5 sacks and 39 yards lost by DET. That amounts to 4-5 holding penalties, plus the downs were lost. The Lions OL got mobbed. Lastly, the Lions could not score in the 4th quarter and close out the game. Again, mistakes and misjudgments led to the DET loss. It was that simple, IMV. We are gonna beat them because we have the Quaterback making less mistakes and an offense that is scoring more points. Lions are not finding the endzone enough if they do however it will be tough to beat them. |
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