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Post by End Zone on Feb 16, 2024 7:45:10 GMT -7
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Post by Boomer on Feb 19, 2024 17:09:27 GMT -7
This reason make more sense than anything else. Special teams was more to blame for losing the game than the defense. I mean it is Mahomes/Reid which is just as bad as Brady/Belichick when it comes to comebacks. Wilkes can't claim he was fired because of the color of his skin anymore. Too many different teams have moved on from him and the fact that they are willing to try and hide his abrasive manner with other coaches just shows they are actually trying to help him, not hurt him.
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Post by End Zone on Feb 20, 2024 5:09:25 GMT -7
This reason make more sense than anything else. Special teams was more to blame for losing the game than the defense. I mean it is Mahomes/Reid which is just as bad as Brady/Belichick when it comes to comebacks. Wilkes can't claim he was fired because of the color of his skin anymore. Too many different teams have moved on from him and the fact that they are willing to try and hide his abrasive manner with other coaches just shows they are actually trying to help him, not hurt him. Wilks can claim whatever he wants to claim. That doesn't mean people will believe him any more or less. There might have been discrimination in prior years. We don't know. Wilks joined Flores in a race discrimination arbitration hearing with NFL lawyers I think in 2021 or 2022. NFL arbitration did not satisfy the plaintiffs by 2022. A federal judge in early 2023 approved the plaintiff's request to move on from arbitration to a federal lawsuit. Insofar as I can tell thru 2/20/2024, Wilks' race discrimination lawsuit is still moving through the court system. It would seem to me that Wilk's original claim against the NFL teams for colluding, discrimination, etc, is weakened since Wilks was hired as DC for the 49ers prior to the 2023 season. The 49ers gave Wilks a job and he did well some games. There is team record keeping on the HC directing Wilks later to make coaching adjustments. The men had different ways of coaching ... that is crystal clear now. Wilks was fired days after the 49ers' Super Bowl loss. Not a single person says Wilks was fired because of his race. Even he doesn't say that. He was fired because of mannerisms.
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Post by aris on Feb 20, 2024 15:51:28 GMT -7
Late in the SB game Shanahan had to step in, call a timeout, and change a call Wilks made (all out blitz). You rarely see that. Could that have been the last straw between those two? If it caused a post-game argument which grew to more than a minor dispute, and if Wilks would not concede that the head coach can over-rule him, then I can see how Shanahan would feel justified in firing Wilks. All supposition, but given Wilk's history of being discarded rather quickly from more than one team, it follows there might be some continuing problem beyond pure football ability or lack thereof. I doubt it was that. It was probably the fact he's an inept coach. The defense looked bad during the playoffs. Too much talent to have that result.
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Post by aris on Feb 20, 2024 15:58:09 GMT -7
Wow I honestly didnt know he was fired but San Fran dont fool around. Late in the SB game Shanahan had to step in, call a timeout, and change a call Wilks made (all out blitz). You rarely see that. This was the worst performing San Fran D I have seen in a long time, esp. playoffs. I stand by what I've said about Wilks. He was TERRIBLE here. Deer in the headlights and an unprepared team. Yet some feel he got shafted. LOL. This kind of vindicates Michael Bidwill with the press. At least I hope it does. Bidwill deserves some of his bad press but man he's been thrown under an 18 wheeler with so many stories about former employees or current ones. Most are laughable. It's almost a case of piling on you saw with Supreme Court judge Kavenaugh. one woman accused him of sexual assault at a HIGH SCHOOL PARTY and then next thing you know so many women were coming forward with rape allegations. An extreme example but once the media gets a whiff of a problem they seem to go full assault esp. if you're not playing on their team if you know what I mean.
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Post by aris on Feb 20, 2024 16:57:04 GMT -7
I’ve been quiet on this issue since it was posted because I was one that early on in the season felt Wilkes would cost the 49ers. But…in fairness to Wilkes…he was NOT the problem nor was the 49er defense in this Super Bowl loss…unlike Clancy Pendergast and the Cardinal Defense in our one and only Super Bowl..:but I digress. Perhaps Shanahan needs to look in the mirror. Because with the 49ers defense shutting down the Chief’s offense in the first half…the offensive guru couldn’t put them away or at least down by (2) touchdowns with plenty of opportunities and great field position to do so. Then…to start the 2nd half he abandons McCaffery and the running game against a KC defense that you can run against and one that had to be tired with all the defending it was doing. I watched…I’d be critical on Wilkes were it warranted…but if someone told me the Chiefs were going to be held to 19 points at the end of regulation…I’d probably would have said…then the 49ers win…like 28-19…or 24-19. They didn’t…cause Shanahan failed them…where was Kittle used in the first half…where was McCaffery in the 2nd half…were was Debo period. The 49ers scored on a trick play that they were lucky 🍀 it didn’t get picked off and ran the other way for a pick-six. This loss was not on Wilkes IMO…this loss was on Shanahan and his lack of offensive genius or adjustment…but…you can’t fire yourself can you??? Personally I can get on board with blaming the HC I do not like Kyle as an HC…he is a QB killer. He hasn’t developed any QBs in SF and ruined the only top rookie QB they drafted…the team is good at judging talent so I put blame on Kyle and his lack of ability to teach outside his ingrained methods. Great teachers can work with different skill sets and few coaches can mold to their player. Sean McVay is a stud HC…Kyle not so much. Kyle is a master at developing QB's. The management whiffed big time on the top rookie? Is he lighting it up elsewhere? Took a last pick overall in the draft and turned him into a pretty good QB. I personally think he's a very good HC in this league. Obviously he can't be called great but he's the real deal IMO.
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Post by Boomer on Feb 24, 2024 17:44:35 GMT -7
This kind of vindicates Michael Bidwill with the press. At least I hope it does. Bidwill deserves some of his bad press but man he's been thrown under an 18 wheeler with so many stories about former employees or current ones. Most are laughable. It's almost a case of piling on you saw with Supreme Court judge Kavenaugh. one woman accused him of sexual assault at a HIGH SCHOOL PARTY and then next thing you know so many women were coming forward with rape allegations. An extreme example but once the media gets a whiff of a problem they seem to go full assault esp. if you're not playing on their team if you know what I mean. Your recollection of Kavanaugh and mine are totally different. I don't remember anyone else other than Blasey-Ford accusing him. Maybe you are thinking of Andrew Cuomo? I'd have to think that the press is tempering their criticism of Wilks because of his minority status and pending legal actions. They are always careful in those regards because it's too easy to get shown the door by the DEI police if your reporting is too aggressive regardless of how correct you may be. All I remember is that our team looked lost, uninspired and unprepared when he was head coach.
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Post by End Zone on Feb 25, 2024 8:51:32 GMT -7
Bidwill deserves some of his bad press but man he's been thrown under an 18 wheeler with so many stories about former employees or current ones. Most are laughable. It's almost a case of piling on you saw with Supreme Court judge Kavenaugh. one woman accused him of sexual assault at a HIGH SCHOOL PARTY and then next thing you know so many women were coming forward with rape allegations. An extreme example but once the media gets a whiff of a problem they seem to go full assault esp. if you're not playing on their team if you know what I mean. Your recollection of Kavanaugh and mine are totally different. I don't remember anyone else other than Blasey-Ford accusing him. Maybe you are thinking of Andrew Cuomo? I'd have to think that the press is tempering their criticism of Wilks because of his minority status and pending legal actions. They are always careful in those regards because it's too easy to get shown the door by the DEI police if your reporting is too aggressive regardless of how correct you may be. All I remember is that our team looked lost, uninspired and unprepared when he was head coach. I was in HS the last time I ran into a coach that I despised because of his bullying, arrogance, and massive ego. I got no help from the man, none, in three years under his 'coaching.' Wilks might have come from my old coach's tree for all I know.
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Post by aris on Feb 25, 2024 10:29:15 GMT -7
Bidwill deserves some of his bad press but man he's been thrown under an 18 wheeler with so many stories about former employees or current ones. Most are laughable. It's almost a case of piling on you saw with Supreme Court judge Kavenaugh. one woman accused him of sexual assault at a HIGH SCHOOL PARTY and then next thing you know so many women were coming forward with rape allegations. An extreme example but once the media gets a whiff of a problem they seem to go full assault esp. if you're not playing on their team if you know what I mean. Your recollection of Kavanaugh and mine are totally different. I don't remember anyone else other than Blasey-Ford accusing him. Maybe you are thinking of Andrew Cuomo? I'd have to think that the press is tempering their criticism of Wilks because of his minority status and pending legal actions. They are always careful in those regards because it's too easy to get shown the door by the DEI police if your reporting is too aggressive regardless of how correct you may be. All I remember is that our team looked lost, uninspired and unprepared when he was head coach. Here's 3 right here. Including one saying he took participated in gang rapes. www.businessinsider.com/brett-kavanaugh-sexual-assault-misconduct-allegations-2018-9
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Post by Chirpn’time on Feb 26, 2024 8:28:48 GMT -7
Personally I can get on board with blaming the HC I do not like Kyle as an HC…he is a QB killer. He hasn’t developed any QBs in SF and ruined the only top rookie QB they drafted…the team is good at judging talent so I put blame on Kyle and his lack of ability to teach outside his ingrained methods. Great teachers can work with different skill sets and few coaches can mold to their player. Sean McVay is a stud HC…Kyle not so much. Kyle is a master at developing QB's. The management whiffed big time on the top rookie? Is he lighting it up elsewhere? Took a last pick overall in the draft and turned him into a pretty good QB. I personally think he's a very good HC in this league. Obviously he can't be called great but he's the real deal IMO. From Redskins, Falcons and the Niners. He has had top level QB talent and more known for not being able to win a SB than his QB development. He has a great FB mind, but can’t get out of the way of his ego. Lynch should have several SB’s at this point as GM. The one raw QB that was hand picked and taken high due to KS’s recommendation is now a Cowboy. Purdey was a lotto ticket jackpot hit…the talent he brought to the Niners is what makes him a solid QB not a product of Kyle’s development. McVay kills with simplicity and Kyle creates fails with his ego preventing him to stay with a solid run game…when the SB is on the line. NE capitalized on this and KC as well.
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