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Post by aris on Feb 14, 2024 16:02:55 GMT -7
Wow I honestly didnt know he was fired but San Fran dont fool around. Late in the SB game Shanahan had to step in, call a timeout, and change a call Wilks made (all out blitz). You rarely see that. This was the worst performing San Fran D I have seen in a long time, esp. playoffs. I stand by what I've said about Wilks. He was TERRIBLE here. Deer in the headlights and an unprepared team. Yet some feel he got shafted. LOL.
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Post by ricardo on Feb 14, 2024 16:16:55 GMT -7
This seems pretty unprecedented, I'm starting to think Wilks must be a pretty unpleasant guy to have around. This is a bad look for the NFL, SF, and other teams that hired/fired Wilks. I think you nailed it, CFC. It's the Wilks' behavior, not his work output. But no one will say he's grumpy, a butthead, etc. IMHO, the problem is Wilks' mouth. Shanahan and Wilks apparently had some serious arguments. About what? We have no idea. I'm guessing that Wilks still has a chip on his shoulder from previous events. I can't blame him for being angry after 4-5 firings from various senior coaching jobs. And there is still his claim against Mike Bidwill and others about alleged unfair treatment. We don't know where that Wilks case is today. I thought the NFL assigned an arbitrator to the case last year. The 49ers defense was outstanding in 2023. So, we know Wilks work as DC is fine. He should get another gig somewhere in the NFL...if he is not too unpleasant to be around. Lastly, I noted on MSN.com the discussion about SF firing Wilks today. The Wilks photo was when he was with Arizona. What the heck? Use a picture of him wearing a SF shirt. View AttachmentView AttachmentI thought the guy was wackadoodle his first introduction as AZ head coach press.
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Post by FLCardinalFan on Feb 14, 2024 17:48:32 GMT -7
Wow I honestly didnt know he was fired but San Fran dont fool around. Late in the SB game Shanahan had to step in, call a timeout, and change a call Wilks made (all out blitz). You rarely see that. This was the worst performing San Fran D I have seen in a long time, esp. playoffs. I stand by what I've said about Wilks. He was TERRIBLE here. Deer in the headlights and an unprepared team. Yet some feel he got shafted. LOL. This kind of vindicates Michael Bidwill with the press. At least I hope it does.
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Post by somecardsfan on Feb 14, 2024 18:08:45 GMT -7
Wilks gonna sue 49ers being fired after one season and claim he wasn't given the tools to succeed? His firings makes ownerships decision more and more correct
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Post by knobby on Feb 14, 2024 19:10:01 GMT -7
This is a bad look for the NFL, SF, and other teams that hired/fired Wilks. Or is it a vindication for all of them? I don't know, but the odds are rising that he must be a PITA in some major respect.
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Post by melgray85 on Feb 14, 2024 21:55:07 GMT -7
Shanahan initially defended him from an article I read earlier.....and now he's fired? That's strange.
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Post by CardsFanQC on Feb 15, 2024 7:08:04 GMT -7
Last time (2019) the 49ers lost in the SB (to the Chiefs) - the following year they finished 6-10. IMO it feels like the 49ers could move backwards in 2024 having potentially lost some confidence in the coaching staff and decisions made. Dissatisfaction started within 24 hrs with the scrutiny of Shanahan's decision making, Brandon Aiyuk's GF posting a tik-tok stating he could be moving on and the OL pointing fingers at each other for missing the block on the game's critical play in OT. How many disheartening losses can this team take without questioning the coaching, some disgruntled players and schemes being run and now taking on the 3 DC in 3 yrs ?? 2019 - Loss at SB 2020 - Go 6-10 2021 - Lose NFC Championship 2022 - Lose NFC Championship 2023 - Lose SB in OT after being ahead. In addition, here are some challenges for the 49ers: - Currently $5M OVER the Cap
- LB Greenlaw will probably be out for at least 3/4 of the 2024 season -- at a minimum
- Overpayment to DL Hargrave with $84M and not getting good production on an aging DL.
- Decline of Arik Armstead - turning age 32 by 2024 season.
- OT Trent Williams is turning age 37
- 32 yr old George Kittle showing signs of decline and his 2024 cap # jumps $11.5M to almost $22M
- Safety Hufanga tore ACL in late November so he won't be ready at beginning of season.
- Brock Purdy after 2024 season will want $50M +/APY contract
- Loss of Free Agents - Chase Young, Randy Gregory, Center Feliciano
- Christian McCaffery - 2,640 rushing and receiving carries including playoffs ... starting to get up there where RB's effectiveness falls off the cliff.
- IMO - 2024 the window is closing for the 49ers and when Purdy gets paid in 2025, the window will almost be shut.
- Cardinal fans might be able to rejoice if Brandon Staley is named the new DC -- 49ers getting off Wilks this late in the hiring process coupled with how many aging players and injured younger players who will not be very effective in 2024 ... very interesting.
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Post by melgray85 on Feb 15, 2024 11:50:26 GMT -7
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Post by Dry Heat on Feb 15, 2024 13:46:01 GMT -7
This won’t help Wilks in his lawsuit 🤣
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Post by respecttheprocess on Feb 15, 2024 14:15:15 GMT -7
I’ve been quiet on this issue since it was posted because I was one that early on in the season felt Wilkes would cost the 49ers. But…in fairness to Wilkes…he was NOT the problem nor was the 49er defense in this Super Bowl loss…unlike Clancy Pendergast and the Cardinal Defense in our one and only Super Bowl..:but I digress. Perhaps Shanahan needs to look in the mirror. Because with the 49ers defense shutting down the Chief’s offense in the first half…the offensive guru couldn’t put them away or at least down by (2) touchdowns with plenty of opportunities and great field position to do so. Then…to start the 2nd half he abandons McCaffery and the running game against a KC defense that you can run against and one that had to be tired with all the defending it was doing. I watched…I’d be critical on Wilkes were it warranted…but if someone told me the Chiefs were going to be held to 19 points at the end of regulation…I’d probably would have said…then the 49ers win…like 28-19…or 24-19. They didn’t…cause Shanahan failed them…where was Kittle used in the first half…where was McCaffery in the 2nd half…were was Debo period. The 49ers scored on a trick play that they were lucky 🍀 it didn’t get picked off and ran the other way for a pick-six. This loss was not on Wilkes IMO…this loss was on Shanahan and his lack of offensive genius or adjustment…but…you can’t fire yourself can you???
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Post by knobby on Feb 15, 2024 14:22:29 GMT -7
But without a writer's name for credit or perspective.
Is it AI generated, or some slightly biased anonymous person? These days it is impossible to say for sure, though MSoft is
pushing AI highly now so must be suspected of using it with their MSN offerings.
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Post by knobby on Feb 15, 2024 14:50:02 GMT -7
Late in the SB game Shanahan had to step in, call a timeout, and change a call Wilks made (all out blitz). You rarely see that. Could that have been the last straw between those two? If it caused a post-game argument which grew to more than a minor dispute, and if Wilks would not concede that the head coach can over-rule him, then I can see how Shanahan would feel justified in firing Wilks. All supposition, but given Wilk's history of being discarded rather quickly from more than one team, it follows there might be some continuing problem beyond pure football ability or lack thereof.
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Post by melgray85 on Feb 15, 2024 16:24:20 GMT -7
I’ve been quiet on this issue since it was posted because I was one that early on in the season felt Wilkes would cost the 49ers. But…in fairness to Wilkes…he was NOT the problem nor was the 49er defense in this Super Bowl loss…unlike Clancy Pendergast and the Cardinal Defense in our one and only Super Bowl..:but I digress. Perhaps Shanahan needs to look in the mirror. Because with the 49ers defense shutting down the Chief’s offense in the first half…the offensive guru couldn’t put them away or at least down by (2) touchdowns with plenty of opportunities and great field position to do so. Then…to start the 2nd half he abandons McCaffery and the running game against a KC defense that you can run against and one that had to be tired with all the defending it was doing. I watched…I’d be critical on Wilkes were it warranted…but if someone told me the Chiefs were going to be held to 19 points at the end of regulation…I’d probably would have said…then the 49ers win…like 28-19…or 24-19. They didn’t…cause Shanahan failed them…where was Kittle used in the first half…where was McCaffery in the 2nd half…were was Debo period. The 49ers scored on a trick play that they were lucky 🍀 it didn’t get picked off and ran the other way for a pick-six. This loss was not on Wilkes IMO…this loss was on Shanahan and his lack of offensive genius or adjustment…but…you can’t fire yourself can you??? And Boomer Esaison said that trick play shouldn;t have counted and should have been briught back on a penalty due to the fact that there was an illegal player downfield. Meanwhile I thought the 9ers were gonna win given the way the defense played, especially the first half.
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Post by Chirpn’time on Feb 16, 2024 7:27:17 GMT -7
I’ve been quiet on this issue since it was posted because I was one that early on in the season felt Wilkes would cost the 49ers. But…in fairness to Wilkes…he was NOT the problem nor was the 49er defense in this Super Bowl loss…unlike Clancy Pendergast and the Cardinal Defense in our one and only Super Bowl..:but I digress. Perhaps Shanahan needs to look in the mirror. Because with the 49ers defense shutting down the Chief’s offense in the first half…the offensive guru couldn’t put them away or at least down by (2) touchdowns with plenty of opportunities and great field position to do so. Then…to start the 2nd half he abandons McCaffery and the running game against a KC defense that you can run against and one that had to be tired with all the defending it was doing. I watched…I’d be critical on Wilkes were it warranted…but if someone told me the Chiefs were going to be held to 19 points at the end of regulation…I’d probably would have said…then the 49ers win…like 28-19…or 24-19. They didn’t…cause Shanahan failed them…where was Kittle used in the first half…where was McCaffery in the 2nd half…were was Debo period. The 49ers scored on a trick play that they were lucky 🍀 it didn’t get picked off and ran the other way for a pick-six. This loss was not on Wilkes IMO…this loss was on Shanahan and his lack of offensive genius or adjustment…but…you can’t fire yourself can you??? Personally I can get on board with blaming the HC I do not like Kyle as an HC…he is a QB killer. He hasn’t developed any QBs in SF and ruined the only top rookie QB they drafted…the team is good at judging talent so I put blame on Kyle and his lack of ability to teach outside his ingrained methods. Great teachers can work with different skill sets and few coaches can mold to their player. Sean McVay is a stud HC…Kyle not so much.
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Post by End Zone on Feb 16, 2024 7:37:37 GMT -7
Shanahan initially defended him from an article I read earlier.....and now he's fired? That's strange. The former DC Wilks probably had an argument with the HC Shanahan immediately after the SB game. There was some finger-pointing going on. Typical of a loser. Maybe some ongoing NFLPA issues were raised by Wilks. There are some issues still unsettled in the Courts and with the NFL arbitrators. If I was the HC, mentioning a Court and Arbitrators would be a clear threat to the 49ers and a disrupting event. I'd cut ties with Wilks right then and there. Unless Wilks speaks up, we will not know why he was fired by Shanahan. We do know that Wilks has an axe to grind with some people. Perhaps Wilks should go back to the NCAAF and coach kids.
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