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Post by respecttheprocess on Sept 17, 2023 16:33:35 GMT -7
Anyone else waiting for the balloon 🎈 to burst…like in the past??? If you’ve been a Cardinal fan for as long as some of us on here…you’d understand why. No. Because we have a real coach. It's also easier to know if a coach is worth a damn when they can win with lesser players. Sorry…this might be the misquote of the year. Hang around long enough with this organization…and you’ll understand why we NEVER are capable of closing out a game…
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Post by CardSunsCard on Sept 17, 2023 16:38:48 GMT -7
No. Because we have a real coach. It's also easier to know if a coach is worth a damn when they can win with lesser players. Sorry…this might be the misquote of the year. Hang around long enough with this organization…and you’ll understand why we NEVER are capable of closing out a game… Not a misquote. I opined that we couldn't cover Hyatt either, and if game stayed close we'd lose it. We didn't lose this game because we made tons of bad calls or we lacked effort.. We lost because they have more talent. We can fix the talent issue the next draft with the surplus picks. I mean, when Dennis Gardeck is your best pass rusher... that's saying something. We also have no depth at multiple spots. I mean, Emari Demercado? Come on. I know this loss stings, but you need to focus on the positive. Most folks expected blowouts at the start of this season Heck, our QB made huge strides in only his second game, and third week with us.
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Post by vwvectors on Sept 17, 2023 16:44:06 GMT -7
Heartbreaking loss but I went in knowing that we’d probably loss this game & also temper the fact we’re in full rebuild. I’d like to tell you guys this is the last loss we going to see like this.
My big (Positives) takeaway(s) from game is the coaching so far is leaps above last year & we stayed competitive with not a lot of talent.
My hopes are as the losses pile up it won’t break team spirt in the locker room or cause players to quit on the coaches. I hope these losses can be ratified with an awesome draft next year.
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Post by somecardsfan on Sept 17, 2023 16:45:09 GMT -7
I know a lot of fans are upset right now, but I still like where this team is going. They showed heart, they played hard, they just lack talent. I hate losing, Im right there with you, but I go back to asking myself, what are you expecting this year? Not a winning team thats for sure. Dobbs had a lot of improvements, offense overall had a lot of improvements, but you can do so much with heart and effort. They need talent to get them over the hump on both sides of the ball. Its going to be a long year, but I will continue to support this team and know its going to be a work in progress. Its going to get worse before it gets better.
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Post by respecttheprocess on Sept 17, 2023 16:50:35 GMT -7
Sorry…this might be the misquote of the year. Hang around long enough with this organization…and you’ll understand why we NEVER are capable of closing out a game… Not a misquote. I opined that we couldn't cover Hyatt either, and if game stayed close we'd lose it. We didn't lose this game because we made tons of bad calls or we lacked effort.. We lost because they have more talent. We can fix the talent issue the next draft with the surplus picks. I mean, when Dennis Gardeck is your best pass rusher... that's saying something I agree for the most part on you talent assessment. But Petzing’s play calling on the last (2) possessions were very scared, very conservative and trying not to lose play calling. And, of course, the OL penalties again reared it’s ugly head…which means coaching hasn’t fixed that. Finally, losing at home…consistently…has not lowered the crowd noise for opposing teams…because our very own home fans aren’t attending…but instead selling their tickets…again…because we are losing…constantly. It’s a vicious circle…that only winning fixes…because nothing else matters in sports…where winning is EVERYTHING.
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Post by Native Az on Sept 17, 2023 16:50:50 GMT -7
Terrible loss and Ralis got schooled today.
I still like what the coach staff has done with this crap roster.
That being said if you are Coach G you are embarrassed after that loss.
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Post by thomas cat on Sept 17, 2023 16:51:21 GMT -7
I'm sure many are unhappy with the final outcome...I am too.
Still, I'm even more encouraged than I was after last week's game.
We improved, and we are doing it with a weak roster. JG and his staff will go over the films and make adjustments. We were better than last week, especially the offense.
Going into this season, we all knew we didn't have a great set of tools. What I and I'm sure others wanted see was improvement week to week. In my opinion...we are seeing that.
We should have won, but let's give the Giants some credit. They played a hell of a great second half.
A rebuild is a step-by-step process. It doesn't happen overnight. Mistakes will be made, and some players will need to be replaced.
Keep the faith....
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Post by azkicker on Sept 17, 2023 16:56:06 GMT -7
First, that was an epic loss.
Second, we don’t have the depth to maintain an all out effort. The D ran out of juice.
I’m not disappointed. The game gives you a glimmer that there is hope for the future. This year is about identifying and developing talent.
Bad news, or good depending on your stance, we are staring 14 sure losses in the face. The only team standing between us and a perfect season is @houston.
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Post by Native Az on Sept 17, 2023 16:58:45 GMT -7
First, that was an epic loss. Second, we don’t have the depth to maintain an all out effort. The D ran out of juice. I’m not disappointed. The game gives you a glimmer that there is hope for the future. This year is about identifying and developing talent. Bad news, or good depending on your stance, we are staring 14 sure losses in the face. The only team standing between us and a perfect season is @houston. We will absolutely win games this season. Our coaches are too good and K1 is one of the best QBs in the game when he gets back.
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Post by CardsFanQC on Sept 17, 2023 17:01:14 GMT -7
Deficiency of Talent took over - Coaches got conservative - Defense was GASSED in 4th qtr - Zebras with several lopsided calls against the Cardinals.
Now I will bring up 4 calls that went against the Cardinals - 1) 1st drive - CB Banks mugged Hollywood and NO PI Call (Chiefs would get that call 100 out of 100 times) - textbook PI not called; Cost the Cards a minimum of 3 pts. 2) Stills marginal "late hit" on Daniel Jones which gave the Giants a 1st down in the Red Zone; Cost the Cards a minimum of 4 pts. 3) Hollywood Brown's weak one harm push in the defender's shoulder for a block in the back - ruined a 16 yd pass play to the TE. Cost the Cards a minimum of 3 pts. 4) Adoree Jackson PI on Hollywood Brown call reversal over the middle of the field - Cost the Cards 3 pts. Refs picked up flag ... ugh !!
Side Note - Breida's last run for 7 yds cost the Cards the winning FG as Gano's FG would have been wide left 7 yds further back.
Luckily the Texans lose again as they lose to the Colts at home -- a game I was very nervous about, since I don't think the Colts are very good especially without RB Taylor.
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Post by CardSunsCard on Sept 17, 2023 17:04:23 GMT -7
Not a misquote. I opined that we couldn't cover Hyatt either, and if game stayed close we'd lose it. We didn't lose this game because we made tons of bad calls or we lacked effort.. We lost because they have more talent. We can fix the talent issue the next draft with the surplus picks. I mean, when Dennis Gardeck is your best pass rusher... that's saying something I agree for the most part on you talent assessment. But Petzing’s play calling on the last (2) possessions were very scared, very conservative and trying not to lose play calling. And, of course, the OL penalties again reared it’s ugly head…which means coaching hasn’t fixed that. Finally, losing at home…consistently…has not lowered the crowd noise for opposing teams…because our very own home fans aren’t attending…but instead selling their tickets…again…because we are losing…constantly. It’s a vicious circle…that only winning fixes…because nothing else matters in sports…where winning is EVERYTHING. He's a new head coach. I can live with getting conservative for a series or two more than the time out blunders KK would make. We had some costly penalties that I believe are what really cost us that game. Especially false start in 4th Q. Plus, under KK, we had players quitting, even our QB. I have a hard time thinking Murray would quit on this coach. Maybe he will but I think he respects the new leadership
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Post by Pendy on Sept 17, 2023 17:15:02 GMT -7
bummer of a collapse...giants O vs Cards D looked like 7 on 7 in 2nd half...I like this 'bad' team though, most/all teams we will play this season will have the better players, just like today...I love the energy, the fight, coaching, everything...every week I will be rooting hard for a Dub, but at the end of the day, we ain't doing nothing this season except laying the groundwork for the near future...Go Cards!!
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Post by Native Az on Sept 17, 2023 17:18:04 GMT -7
bummer of a collapse...giants O vs Cards D looked like 7 on 7 in 2nd half...I like this 'bad' team though, most/all teams we will play this season will have the better players, just like today...I love the energy, the fight, coaching, everything...every week I will be rooting hard for a Dub, but at the end of the day, we ain't doing nothing this season except laying the groundwork for the near future...Go Cards!! And it is absolutely a near future with our coaching staff. They better be good next season because turn arounds don’t take 4-5 seasons in the NFL.
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Post by thomas cat on Sept 17, 2023 17:43:53 GMT -7
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Post by T.McCollum on Sept 17, 2023 18:23:44 GMT -7
Biggest comeback in Giants history only Arizona could do that for someone.
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