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Post by End Zone on Oct 6, 2021 12:22:56 GMT -7
There's a lot of Hicks in Smith. Sure you want to double down?
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Post by CardCore on Oct 6, 2021 12:58:04 GMT -7
I was alluding to the idea of transitioning him, as stated above. If, as you say, he is not good at pass rushing, I don't see a lot of sense in pursuing him. According to his PFF has his pass rush at 51, his run defense at 37 and coverage at 82 that screams big Safety to me, not OLB prospect. Safety would keep him away from of the big O-lineman and allow his speed to be used to the full. If his run D is that low it makes me wonder about his tackling.
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Post by Chirpn’time on Oct 6, 2021 13:01:41 GMT -7
There's a lot of Hicks in Smith. Sure you want to double down? Smith is 26 vs 29 and Smith is fast and excels in pass coverage 82 PFF vs 62 PFF Smith is a bit taller and 10+ pounds heavier. Smith is more suited to play Safety close to line of scrimmage and cover or blitz.
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Post by cardinalsins on Oct 6, 2021 13:10:05 GMT -7
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Post by CardSunsCard on Oct 6, 2021 13:37:00 GMT -7
I was alluding to the idea of transitioning him, as stated above. If, as you say, he is not good at pass rushing, I don't see a lot of sense in pursuing him. According to his PFF has his pass rush at 51, his run defense at 37 and coverage at 82 that screams big Safety to me, not OLB prospect. Safety would keep him away from of the big O-lineman and allow his speed to be used to the full. It's all about packages. He makes a ton of sense in 3-3-5 looks where you carry an extra safety
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Post by Chirpn’time on Oct 6, 2021 14:58:05 GMT -7
According to his PFF has his pass rush at 51, his run defense at 37 and coverage at 82 that screams big Safety to me, not OLB prospect. Safety would keep him away from of the big O-lineman and allow his speed to be used to the full. It's all about packages. He makes a ton of sense in 3-3-5 looks where you carry an extra safety Agreed and in 4-2-5 isn't the bandit, the hybrid safety in box, the AZ defense has improved with Simmons and also as Collins gets more involved TE coverage isn't a problem. Against Niners in particular with two or three TE sets and Fullback or H-back a extra LB body who runs like a DB comes in handy. This also gives more flexibility on man/zone combo coverages to protect against the pick or rub routes that all NFC West like to employ. I like how Murphy is all over, but at his size he can't be expected to blowup the run then cover deep. Longer season means more bodies the size of Collins, Simmons and Smith. Smith as Hicks is used isn't an upgrade, but as a coverage specialist yes a big improvement over Hicks. He is better than Vallejo although I like Vallejo. Smith would be a solution to CB depth by moving Murphy to outside with Wilson and Alford. Money is the issue and that is where teams like GB may find way to give Smith a decent long term contract
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Post by CardSunsCard on Oct 6, 2021 19:24:46 GMT -7
It's all about packages. He makes a ton of sense in 3-3-5 looks where you carry an extra safety Agreed and in 4-2-5 isn't the bandit, the hybrid safety in box, the AZ defense has improved with Simmons and also as Collins gets more involved TE coverage isn't a problem. Against Niners in particular with two or three TE sets and Fullback or H-back a extra LB body who runs like a DB comes in handy. This also gives more flexibility on man/zone combo coverages to protect against the pick or rub routes that all NFC West like to employ. I like how Murphy is all over, but at his size he can't be expected to blowup the run then cover deep. Longer season means more bodies the size of Collins, Simmons and Smith. Smith as Hicks is used isn't an upgrade, but as a coverage specialist yes a big improvement over Hicks. He is better than Vallejo although I like Vallejo. Smith would be a solution to CB depth by moving Murphy to outside with Wilson and Alford. Money is the issue and that is where teams like GB may find way to give Smith a decent long term contract I think he is too weak against the run to be as useful against the 49ers. To your point, they use too many TE's and have too much blocking beef. That being said, that's how I feel against their normal starter. Against their rookie, who is a running threat, Jaylon might make a lot more sense. They'll be less of a pocket passing team and I'll sacrifice some of the run threat for more protection against scrambles and designed boots. With Jimmy G, you have to worry a lot more about pocket based play action. Here's something for folks to think about. Just how talented is Simmons? I prefer Simmons in coverage and don't think he will ever be a monster pass rusher, BUT.... if coaches think he 'could be' then I sign Jaylon for the following reason. It gives us the ultimate flexibility in terms of losing Chandler. And we save money to boot. Next year, 1. you can let Chandler go knowing we get a max compensatory pick in return 2. you use the difference in salary to sign another all Pro OL or DL/CB 3. since Jaylon can do coverage, it frees up Simmons/Collins for blitzes, not to mention gives us insane options to run more zone packages The best teams don't have to blitz every down. If we had not one, not two, but three legit stud coverage LBs, all with wheels, I take all my chandler savings and go get me the next best Chris Jones to man my D-line. Then I run a heck of a lot more non-blitz coverages and force the QB to thread tight needles through my jack rabbit LB corp. It's a bit more bend don't break D, but it's going to force a lot of turnovers because we wouldn't have any weak coverage links. If there's no Chris Jones type available via FA, then I draft one and spend all the savings on the top FA corner. Bottom line. Jaylon maximizes our flexibility, and outside of Jimmy G/Stafford, improves our D against Russel and Lance
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Post by aris on Oct 6, 2021 20:14:15 GMT -7
Huge amount of Guaranteed money this year and next + big injury concerns = give this one a wide berth and don't consider. He would be cut by Dallas and can sign for the minimum or whatever teams think he's worth
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Post by Chirpn’time on Oct 6, 2021 20:26:48 GMT -7
And GB is the winner of signing the player with fourth most tackles since 2017. Always fun to discuss how players who are available could help our team.
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