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Post by rooseveltcardsfan on Oct 20, 2018 8:35:02 GMT -7
I don’t think he can behind this offensive line.
Why do we risk his health, both physically and mentally.
Bradford should be out there. He’s getting paid “big” money. Let Josh learn without being hurt. He can come in and do mop up duty late in games. If Bradford doesn’t play hard then cut him. This season is over, go back to the 3-4 defensive and at least get some ideas on who our LB are moving forward.
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Post by rdo3 on Oct 20, 2018 13:30:48 GMT -7
because wilks cares aqbout himself not the team or the players. I was against wilks getting the chance to ruin rosen. all wilks is doing is teaching rosen how to lose.
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Post by SMITTY on Oct 20, 2018 16:40:17 GMT -7
This is the week that should be Rosen's first NFL start IMO. Bradford sh!t the bed, and he had to go early...but he needs good exposure to NFL pressure. Leftwich and Josh should both get more out of the offense in the next 9 games.
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Post by rooseveltcardsfan on Oct 20, 2018 18:18:08 GMT -7
This is the week that should be Rosen's first NFL start IMO. Bradford sh!t the bed, and he had to go early...but he needs good exposure to NFL pressure. Leftwich and Josh should both get more out of the offense in the next 9 games. I hope so! He seems to be a sitting duck, behind this Oline.
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Post by fightingfalcon on Oct 21, 2018 13:49:03 GMT -7
Yeah, I think he's learning that in Arizona he gets sacked about twice as much as he did at UCLA, and the sackers are bigger, faster, and meaner then the ones he faced in college were. . . . .
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Post by toyhunt on Oct 21, 2018 14:34:05 GMT -7
No, because we had a bad o line and still have an even worse one. Someone explain how this is rebuilding again?
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Post by jeffcardinalfan on Oct 21, 2018 16:43:33 GMT -7
imho rosen should play...there is no substitute for reps on the field and organization/teammates can see how he responds to adversity.again imho he is mentally tuff enuf to handle it. if you consider drew lock who may be a high first rounder next year-I would say definitely he needs to sit and watch. I do think bl should use plenty of bootlegs to try to minimize risk of injury to rosen
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2018 18:01:42 GMT -7
This is the week that should be Rosen's first NFL start IMO. Bradford sh!t the bed, and he had to go early...but he needs good exposure to NFL pressure. Leftwich and Josh should both get more out of the offense in the next 9 games. I hope so! He seems to be a sitting duck, behind this Oline. The O-line needs simplified blocking patterns along with the coming simplified play calling. Simplified in that they will be set up to player's strengths and not exotic blocking schemes. No o-line will last or even think of being effective when 5 guys are asked continually to block 6 to 8 defenders. Hopefully that mess is being cleanup now. Then we need starters to heal and some deadwood backups replaced.....can anyone say M U N Y E R??? Or C L A U S E L L??? How about we start getting Cunningham ready? I'd rather see the 7th rd draft pick play than Munyer, Any day!
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Post by Zaz on Oct 21, 2018 20:07:56 GMT -7
Im curious how he looks with Byrons "Old BA style" offense (assuming thats what we get)
Because thus far I dont think Rosen has been able to ball. The few throws hes allowed are often comeback routes, which are highly interceptable. He hasnt been allowed to use David on a crossing routes. Or really uncork a deep ball often. You need to make these throws often to dial them in.
Not to be over excited, but I think he has aloooot more talent than hes shown (which is alot). Weve already seem him throw lazers and beautiful touch throws. Im hopeful Byron lets him off the leash
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Post by WhyOwhy on Oct 21, 2018 21:45:18 GMT -7
Im curious how he looks with Byrons "Old BA style" offense (assuming thats what we get) Because thus far I dont think Rosen has been able to ball. The few throws hes allowed are often comeback routes, which are highly interceptable. He hasnt been allowed to use David on a crossing routes. Or really uncork a deep ball often. You need to make these throws often to dial them in. Not to be over excited, but I think he has aloooot more talent than hes shown (which is alot). Weve already seem him throw lazers and beautiful touch throws. Im hopeful Byron lets him off the leash I'm hoping for the same. Also hope the playbook gets simplified on a per game basis. Look at what the next defense does poorly and develop a list of plays Rosen is comfy with around that. I remember hearing BA did that with Palmer. Hoping it rubbed off on Leftwich.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2018 5:03:29 GMT -7
Im curious how he looks with Byrons "Old BA style" offense (assuming thats what we get) Because thus far I dont think Rosen has been able to ball. The few throws hes allowed are often comeback routes, which are highly interceptable. He hasnt been allowed to use David on a crossing routes. Or really uncork a deep ball often. You need to make these throws often to dial them in. Not to be over excited, but I think he has aloooot more talent than hes shown (which is alot). Weve already seem him throw lazers and beautiful touch throws. Im hopeful Byron lets him off the leash I'm hoping for the same. Also hope the playbook gets simplified on a per game basis. Look at what the next defense does poorly and develop a list of plays Rosen is comfy with around that. I remember hearing BA did that with Palmer. Hoping it rubbed off on Leftwich. I hope and think it will. But also temper it with knowing that there will be some calls that will be mistakes. Learning and growing pains for the new OC and QBoF. I am not expecting an "overnight" sensation against the 9'ers next weekend. But I will be looking for progress from the morass that was McCoy's.
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Post by jonlp24 on Oct 22, 2018 11:40:57 GMT -7
might as well gain experience. The season is lost let's not waste it with Bradford.
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Post by birdgangaz on Oct 22, 2018 12:21:50 GMT -7
because wilks cares aqbout himself not the team or the players. I was against wilks getting the chance to ruin rosen. all wilks is doing is teaching rosen how to lose. If anyone has ruined Rosen, its Keim, because he made tragic mistakes approaching this rebuild. This should be no surprise because his life is sloppy and out of balance, and he just makes poor choices in general. Letting this baffoon handle such a critical rebuild with a 1st round QBotF will haunt this franchise for a long time.
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