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Post by knobby on Oct 15, 2018 13:34:09 GMT -7
For you who think that may be the case:
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Post by aris on Oct 15, 2018 13:54:23 GMT -7
 I dont know if he is. Singletary might have been better. But if he manages to drop his pants........
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Post by itancanwa on Oct 15, 2018 14:39:08 GMT -7
Don't know if he is Mike 2.0, but the guy wasn't ready to be a head coach. Reminds me of Wiz and BA. They system works. It's the players not doing their jobs. Where and how often have we heard that before ? He is no different than Wiz or BA. It's my way or the high way. Were going to have a ground and pound offense. Were going to run the ball. Well first you need a decent O line for that to work. And you need a stout defense. Those aren't catch up offenses. Those type of offences you play with the lead.
I remember 4 or 5 years ago with Seattle. They had an inexperienced QB in Wilson, and a best of a RB in Lynch. I don't remember very many games back then when they threw the ball over 30 times. Most games it was somewhere between 22 and 27 times. They also had a very good defense, so it worked for them. Most games going into the 4th quarter they were either comfortably ahead or trailing by 7 points or less.
That system works if you have the team built for it. The Cards don't have the O line or the defense for it right now. Plus we have a terrible O coordinator who doesn't have the foggiest idea how to use DJ correctly. Not sure we have a D coordinator who is any good either. Add to that we have another Wiz on our hands and you get a team who right now sucks ! |
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Post by ~MainEvent~ on Oct 15, 2018 15:12:52 GMT -7
I don't see the similarities other than them both being black, hate it honestly
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Post by Raze on Oct 15, 2018 17:09:22 GMT -7
Steve Wilks is completely sane. Mike was questionable (and I was a huge fan of his as a kid).
Dave McGinnis might be a more accurate comparison. Although I'm hoping that it's more about the new D and incompetent OC that's making him look like that.
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Post by knobby on Oct 15, 2018 19:00:44 GMT -7
Steve Wilks is completely sane. Mike was questionable (and I was a huge fan of his as a kid). Dave McGinnis might be a more accurate comparison. Although I'm hoping that it's more about the new D and incompetent OC that's making him look like that. I don't think they are at all alike, but when I saw that clip of Wilks it struck me that the eyes just then were similar.
I have no idea what was going through Wilks' mind at that moment - but I used to watch Mike S on TV when he was playing, and when he smelled blood his eyes opened wide and he became the no nonsense, never-say-die football machine he was famous for being. I don't believe that same thing was the reason for Wilks' open eyes - maybe an unpleasant vision of the future, or unconscious reaction to a question?
I miss seeing Mike as a player. If he had problems later on in his life, that happens to some players - seemingly more often than not those who have been all-out producers 100% of the time when playing - so I won't comment on that aspect without knowing the facts.
Wilks' football personality is nothing like Mike's, based on what we have seen of him so far here. Whether that's good or bad, who can say?
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Post by bigangelg on Oct 15, 2018 20:03:03 GMT -7
Could anyone give an example of Singletary coaching behavior for those of us who arent familiar with him?
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Post by 70'sCardFan on Oct 15, 2018 21:14:19 GMT -7
Could anyone give an example of Singletary coaching behavior for those of us who arent familiar with him? I thought about having my wife take a picture of me with my pants pulled down but didn’t think that would go over to well on the MB.  |
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Post by Cardinals Junkie on Oct 15, 2018 22:31:51 GMT -7
Singletary's contacts used to pop out when he would hit people with his eyes open. He was fun to watch.
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Post by cardinalsdo on Oct 15, 2018 22:44:31 GMT -7
When Mike Singletary was promoted to head coach of the 49ers, it was for all of the same reasons Wilks was hired: "swagger" That's it. The previous 49ers coach Mike Nolan was the complete opposite. He was quiet and understated. The 49ers management thought they needed a man with chutzpah and swagger who would motivate the players. Singletary had the same commanding presence that Wilks did. He gave great speeches. People remarked about Singletary's aura.
That is why Wilks is Singletary. Wilks wasn't hired for his acumen. He has never been known for the X's and O's. You never heard of the term brilliant strategist and Wilks in the same sentence. Wilks attributes were his presence, charisma and sense of leadership. Remember, the first time Wilks met Keim was on a beach in the Carolinas. He walked up to him and blew him away....sound familiar (Singletary).
So when Wilks was hired, I immedately got the Mike Singletary vibe. He was essentially hired for his swagger. And I've never been sold on swagger. I wasn't sold on swagger when the Kool Aid drinkers on this forum swooned after Max Hall and I'm not buying the swagger now.
The Kool Aid drinkers now want to act like it's all McCoy and if you replace the OC, everything will magically correct itself. You can replace McCoy and the team will still struggle with Byron Leftwich as OC because the defense still stinks. You have to replace both Wilks and McCoy. I'm just biding my time when MB will fire Keim, Wilks and McCoy.
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Post by herreickhorn on Oct 15, 2018 23:14:37 GMT -7
Yes! Pants drop coming soon!
And a shout out to cardinalsdo who made the Singletary connection before anyone else!!
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Post by knobby on Oct 15, 2018 23:49:13 GMT -7
Singletary's contacts used to pop out when he would hit people with his eyes open. He was fun to watch.
I didn't remember that until you mentioned it... yeah, for a while there players with contacts could be seen searching in the grass for one that popped out. Like you say, fun to watch then. A different time.
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Post by knobby on Oct 15, 2018 23:53:21 GMT -7
I don't see the similarities other than them both being black, hate it honestly
I guess you didn't see Mike in his playing days. Too bad - he was special, and took football seriously. A lot of the old outstanding players were that way.
He had lots of fans all over the country, much like Fitz does now, except Fitz is not as aggressive against opponents, nor does he have to be to succeed. So both are black. So what? Both are good people in their own differing ways.
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Post by cardinalsdo on Oct 16, 2018 0:13:38 GMT -7
I don't see the similarities other than them both being black, hate it honestly This response was expected. There are those who will seek to defend Wilks at all costs. To minimize comparisons to Singletary, they will say the comparisons are being made solely based on race. Not only is the accusation unfair but it's lazy. Race has nothing to do with it. Tod Bowles is Black but has one of the sharpest defensive minds in the game. Bowles was not hired on his personality but rather his defensive acumen and penchant for making defensive adjustments. The reason Wilks is being compared to Singletary is both coaches were hired for their personality and perceived sense of leadership. Neither coach was necessarily recognized for their mastery of the X's and O's or playcalling. Both coaches were also first time head coaches. The Cardinals wanted more of a disciplinarian and motivator; something they probably felt BA struggled with at times. The 49ers sought the same when they hired Singletary. They felt Nolan was a bit meek and wanted a change with the more vocal and charismatic leader. |
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Post by herreickhorn on Oct 16, 2018 1:14:47 GMT -7
Could anyone give an example of Singletary coaching behavior for those of us who arent familiar with him? |
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I dont know if he is. Singletary might have been better.
