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Post by jonlp24 on Sept 27, 2018 20:51:50 GMT -7
Arians on TD Fantasy Podcast: Cards are improperly using David Johnson “I don’t think it’s going to get any worse,” Arians said when asked about the team turning to rookie quarterback Josh Rosen. “It can only be better, I would think right now, pushing the ball up the field. I just don’t like the use of David Johnson in this offense. David Johnson is a premier wide receiver and I don’t see him out of the backfield creating the mismatches that he should be out creating and opening up things for Larry Fitzgerald. “David Johnson, people didn’t realize, he opened up stuff for Larry Fitzgerald because he was used in the slot opposite, or we always put him in position to be opposite of Larry and pick your poison,” Arians added. “I got to see David Johnson being used properly for Josh Rosen to even be effective.” ------ “Two different coaching styles,” Johnson said, comparing Arians’ offense to new Cardinals offensive coordinator Mike McCoy’s. “I’m not being split out more but I’m … doing routes out of the backfield, being utilized that way. Like I said, the offensive scheme is different. “I think coming out of the backfield actually, I feel like I’m more likely to have a linebacker on me compared to being split out." arizonasports.com/story/1679460/david-johnson-improperly-used-cardinals-bruce-arians/amp/ |
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Post by rdo3 on Sept 27, 2018 21:44:17 GMT -7
lol he was trying to be nice or bait them into total failure. dj is not a premire wide receiver. if he was he would play at that spot where they make 4 mill more per yoar on average than running backs. "I don't think it can get any worse" what a resounding vote of confidence lol. jon we could start you at qb and you couldn't do anyworse than losing more than 100% of the games. heck we could put you out there solo 1v11 offense and defense and you cant lose more than 100% of the games. same goes for my old.....um rear end. (got ya put)
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2018 5:39:00 GMT -7
This is pointing out McCoy discounting every good thing the previous Coaching staff did with David and Larry. More evidence of McCoy's ineptitude.
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Post by biggs on Sept 28, 2018 6:04:31 GMT -7
I don't think Arians would win with this team. I know he would make opposing Defenses cover every inch of the football field and open up space for DJ to thrive. When Ellington was healthy he created space for him to work in. On the other side of it I don't think Bradford would be able to hang onto the ball long enough to work with Arians. I would love to see Rosen with an OC who will open the field up.
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Post by aris on Sept 28, 2018 7:32:01 GMT -7
Arians would not have let the team go out of training camp with Bradford at the helm. The public relations signing would have been exposed quickly by Arians. He was a no B.S. guy.
As for DJ not being used correctly? He's proof you need a balanced attack to utilize your weapons. Most teams just come down in the box and stifle everything the cards have. The cards did not have a game beyond 20 yards with Sam at the helm. Bradford was too scared to stand in and look downfield. He would just fling the ball at the first receiver he looked at. The guy was stealing our money and cheating the fans.
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Post by One_Heartbeat on Sept 28, 2018 9:34:40 GMT -7
Arians would not have let the team go out of training camp with Bradford at the helm. The public relations signing would have been exposed quickly by Arians. He was a no B.S. guy. As for DJ not being used correctly? He's proof you need a balanced attack to utilize your weapons. Most teams just come down in the box and stifle everything the cards have. The cards did not have a game beyond 20 yards with Sam at the helm. Bradford was too scared to stand in and look downfield. He would just fling the ball at the first receiver he looked at. The guy was stealing our money and cheating the fans. C'mon man, Arians loved to BS. "Coached extremely, extremely well", "The call was a bad call, my fault," then "Great call, players didn't execute". "Drew Stanton is a starting QB in this league".... Not disagreeing with what he said on the podcast but to say Arians wasn't a BS artist is too much. The BS that flowed from his pie hole was a big part of his appeal, until it flamed out in predictable Rex Arians fashion. |
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Post by ~MainEvent~ on Sept 28, 2018 12:43:26 GMT -7
I don't think Arians would win with this team. I know he would make opposing Defenses cover every inch of the football field and open up space for DJ to thrive. When Ellington was healthy he created space for him to work in. On the other side of it I don't think Bradford would be able to hang onto the ball long enough to work with Arians. I would love to see Rosen with an OC who will open the field up. We're 2-1 with Bruce right now. |
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Post by SMITTY on Sept 28, 2018 12:48:38 GMT -7
I don't think Arians would win with this team. I know he would make opposing Defenses cover every inch of the football field and open up space for DJ to thrive. When Ellington was healthy he created space for him to work in. On the other side of it I don't think Bradford would be able to hang onto the ball long enough to work with Arians. I would love to see Rosen with an OC who will open the field up. We're 2-1 with Bruce right now. I agree, BA would have us at 2-1 with Stanton at QB with Rosen on the bench. He may have had a heart attack before the bye week though.
Bruce probably did the right thing in walking away with his health. He was a good coach. Hard to replace.
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Post by aris on Sept 28, 2018 14:32:52 GMT -7
Arians would not have let the team go out of training camp with Bradford at the helm. The public relations signing would have been exposed quickly by Arians. He was a no B.S. guy. As for DJ not being used correctly? He's proof you need a balanced attack to utilize your weapons. Most teams just come down in the box and stifle everything the cards have. The cards did not have a game beyond 20 yards with Sam at the helm. Bradford was too scared to stand in and look downfield. He would just fling the ball at the first receiver he looked at. The guy was stealing our money and cheating the fans. C'mon man, Arians loved to BS. "Coached extremely, extremely well", "The call was a bad call, my fault," then "Great call, players didn't execute". "Drew Stanton is a starting QB in this league".... Not disagreeing with what he said on the podcast but to say Arians wasn't a BS artist is too much. The BS that flowed from his pie hole was a big part of his appeal, until it flamed out in predictable Rex Arians fashion. Yea you're right , my memory is short. He's a major B.S. guy.  |
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Post by Zaz on Sept 28, 2018 16:17:08 GMT -7
Hes not wrong.
DJ was a monster in BAs offense. A Ghost in Mccoys.
The problem is the system not the player.
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Post by thomas cat on Sept 28, 2018 17:57:54 GMT -7
I thought I would post this article by Jim Koch...whoever that is.. "Inadequate coaching staff taking toll on Arizona Cardinals".... linkI don't know if it is as bad as he says, but clearly, the pundits are starting to put the blame on the coaching staff and not necessarily the players. At this point in time, its hard to disagree. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2018 7:34:40 GMT -7
It used to be that the old school philosophy was to use the Run game to open up the Passing game. This was very true back in the 60's, 70's and 80's. This is Wilks basis for his offense. And McCoy can not adapt to it.
But the truth is in Today's NFL you have to have a good passing game to open up the run game. The Rules Committee has made sure of this. Until Wilks realizes this and then demands that OC McCoy brings a balanced attack on Offense the Team will struggle, as it has already.
Sure Wilks you can have a dominating Run game. But even back in Carolina if it was not for the threat of Cam's Passing game then that run game in Carolina would've been far less productive than it was and still is.
David Johnson is Not a cannon ball runner in the mold of Robert Newhouse, Jim Otis, Tolbert. David is more in the mold of a Markus Allen, Dickerson, E. Smith. Use David appropriate to his talents. This will help open up the passing game 1st and then the run game with finesse can dominate later in the game. When it really become needed to control a game.
But Until Both Wilks and McCoy figure this out the O will struggle.
This is something Uncle Bruce understood and could make work. Wilks and McCoy have yet to grasp that fact.
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Post by jonlp24 on Oct 1, 2018 18:07:19 GMT -7
It used to be that the old school philosophy was to use the Run game to open up the Passing game. This was very true back in the 60's, 70's and 80's. This is Wilks basis for his offense. And McCoy can not adapt to it. But the truth is in Today's NFL you have to have a good passing game to open up the run game. The Rules Committee has made sure of this. Until Wilks realizes this and then demands that OC McCoy brings a balanced attack on Offense the Team will struggle, as it has already. Sure Wilks you can have a dominating Run game. But even back in Carolina if it was not for the threat of Cam's Passing game then that run game in Carolina would've been far less productive than it was and still is. David Johnson is Not a cannon ball runner in the mold of Robert Newhouse, Jim Otis, Tolbert. David is more in the mold of a Markus Allen, Dickerson, E. Smith. Use David appropriate to his talents. This will help open up the passing game 1st and then the run game with finesse can dominate later in the game. When it really become needed to control a game. But Until Both Wilks and McCoy figure this out the O will struggle. This is something Uncle Bruce understood and could make work. Wilks and McCoy have yet to grasp that fact. The Broncos know how to run the ball. I love a Kubiak style offense though their coordinator is Musgrave but that is how you do it with a fullback. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2018 5:44:31 GMT -7
I thought Musgrave called a decent game last night against KC. Unforunately for the Broncos it was not enough. Mahommes is doing some very impressive stuff on the field. That left handed shot put to his WR while on the run for a 1st down late in the game was a play that one would expect from RW a few yeas back. Extremely gifted and smart young gunslinger in KC under Reid's tutelage. Now if KC could rebuild their D, NE might just get unseated from the King's throne of the AFC.
I will be watching more KC games now when they don't conflict with the Card's TV schedule. I used to follow KC back in the days of Lenny Dawson, Ed Podolack, and company. Losing to Miami in the Playoffs on the then Longest NFL game ever was a heart breaker.
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