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Post by aris on Sept 22, 2018 7:16:37 GMT -7
Disagree completely. If we are looking for the perfect situation to put Rosen in, who is to say it is even next year? Or the year after that? Fact is there is no perfect time to put in a QB. Rosen was the most pro ready quarterback out of the lot this year, put him in there and evaluate what you have in him and the rest of the team. If you are going to stick with Bradford or put Glennon in there you might aswell forfeit every game. In Goff's rookie year he started 7 games and had 7 TD's and 10 INT's. he looked like crap. He had a bad line and no WR's. The following year, with some additions (FA LT who's been a stud) and his new COACH (the guy is an offensive genius) he thrived. I like the idea of letting Rosen season a little bit. No worries though you will see him this year. In fact if Bradford stinks up the joint in the first half of the Bears game I predict you see Rosen in the second half. (I don't agree with this but I think the coach will feel desperate). Rosen meet Mack. Welcome to the NFL. |
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Post by Boomer on Sept 22, 2018 7:33:46 GMT -7
We have to play Rosen to see how he interacts with our current team. How else are we going to find out who gels and who doesn't in time for next year's draft and free agency?
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Post by rdo3 on Sept 22, 2018 8:13:28 GMT -7
you cant get an accurate look under these coaches. does dj look like he's a big money back or a scrub? dj on the year has 8 more yards rushing than blake bortles. fots has just over 100 yards, 1/4 of them when he should have been called for offensive pass interference. he has looked like a scrub. how are you going to evaluate anyone on this team? the other teams second stringers look better than our started. nothing is jelling under wilks. unde4r wilks it would be the same team with tom brady or arron Rodgers back there, assuming they didn't retire at half time.
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Post by Redbirdfan62 on Sept 22, 2018 10:58:05 GMT -7
you cant get an accurate look under these coaches. does dj look like he's a big money back or a scrub? dj on the year has 8 more yards rushing than blake bortles. fots has just over 100 yards, 1/4 of them when he should have been called for offensive pass interference. he has looked like a scrub. how are you going to evaluate anyone on this team? the other teams second stringers look better than our started. nothing is jelling under wilks. unde4r wilks it would be the same team with tom brady or arron Rodgers back there, assuming they didn't retire at half time. They are not gonna fire the staff in the middle of the season if Bradford stinks it up again tomorrow. we can't wait til next year to see what the kid has. I think Mccoy and wilks has gotten the message and I think they got it from both MB and SK that you have to scheme better and involve DJ more,why else would wilks come out and say they are gonna put DJ in the slot and get him more involved I hate it took this to figure it out.I think they need to turn this around by season's end or there will be a new staff. |
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Post by rdo3 on Sept 22, 2018 12:47:39 GMT -7
dj is a running back not a receiver. put him in fitz's position? and probably still run 3 yard routes on 3rd and 4. dj can beat a linebacker, he is going to get his lunch eaten by a safty or corner. he's gonna be a worse receiver than he is a running back and he still doesn't have a 100 yard season yet let alone game. if we don't fire wilks mid season, early season infact, we will be hearing "and with the 1st over all pick in the 2019 draft the cardinals select..." this summer. putting dj and fitz's salaries both at slot, if sk and mb came up with that plan they need fired.
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Post by Redbirdfan62 on Sept 22, 2018 16:42:24 GMT -7
dj is a running back not a receiver. put him in fitz's position? and probably still run 3 yard routes on 3rd and 4. dj can beat a linebacker, he is going to get his lunch eaten by a safty or corner. he's gonna be a worse receiver than he is a running back and he still doesn't have a 100 yard season yet let alone game. if we don't fire wilks mid season, early season infact, we will be hearing "and with the 1st over all pick in the 2019 draft the cardinals select..." this summer. putting dj and fitz's salaries both at slot, if sk and mb came up with that plan they need fired. It's a game of matchups I think david can fight off safety's and corners but it will be a linebacker on him because he will line up behind the Qb then split out wide. You don't remember DJ splitting out wide before ? it's pretty common with Rb's good in the passing game. |
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Post by SMITTY on Sept 22, 2018 16:59:12 GMT -7
I am surprised that a veteran QB with a few talented players in his tool box can't figure out how to move this team down the field better. Sam seems to have no fire in his belly for the job. Not sure if Rosen has any fire either, but I at least saw him show signs in the preseason. Game #10 or game #4, what's the big difference? Lets see what he does under game pressure, not hard to out perform the veteran QB that is here to show him the ropes-LOL If Wilks keeps accepting bad QB play he will lose the locker room quick enough.
This fan hopes for a better game from Sam tomorrow, but will not accept yet another terrible performance by this offense.
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Post by Rimrock on Sept 22, 2018 17:03:03 GMT -7
Disagree completely. If we are looking for the perfect situation to put Rosen in, who is to say it is even next year? Or the year after that? Fact is there is no perfect time to put in a QB. Rosen was the most pro ready quarterback out of the lot this year, put him in there and evaluate what you have in him and the rest of the team. If you are going to stick with Bradford or put Glennon in there you might aswell forfeit every game. In Goff's rookie year he started 7 games and had 7 TD's and 10 INT's. he looked like crap. He had a bad line and no WR's. The following year, with some additions (FA LT who's been a stud) and his new COACH (the guy is an offensive genius) he thrived. I like the idea of letting Rosen season a little bit. No worries though you will see him this year. In fact if Bradford stinks up the joint in the first half of the Bears game I predict you see Rosen in the second half. (I don't agree with this but I think the coach will feel desperate). Rosen meet Mack. Welcome to the NFL. They won`t play him in this game unless Sam is Hurt...the coaches and ownership all know the plan and after this game it will slowly start coming together ,,no matter how much inpatient fans hate it...lol.........but i won`t lie...this game is gonna hurt..  |
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Post by rdo3 on Sept 22, 2018 17:55:00 GMT -7
smitty if you play golf schedule a tee time for kick off time. you might still break a club but it wont be in the tv screen.
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Post by SMITTY on Sept 22, 2018 20:51:25 GMT -7
Slowly bang the Rosen drum. They hear it.
Our future is bright, cheer up fans.
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Post by Rimrock on Sept 22, 2018 22:00:42 GMT -7
Slowly bang the Rosen drum. They hear it. Our future is bright, cheer up fans. as soon as the games become a more favorable situation for a win he will appear |
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Post by SMITTY on Sept 22, 2018 22:44:24 GMT -7
As soon as we have to replace our #1QB (bad play/injury)...it will be the right time.
Sooner every week. Seattle at home looks good to me.
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Post by jeffcardinalfan on Sept 23, 2018 6:42:09 GMT -7
remember plummers first game action...stoney case started against the eagles...jake replaced him-took team on a 99 yard td drive...next week he started against Tennessee...iirc he had 4 tds and 4 pics and crowd at sun devil stadium gave him a standing ovation and cards mgt was like "why didn't we play jake sooner?" imho rosen needs to play now so that he can be evaluated...cards don't need to go into next season without having an idea if he can play or not-if he can, fantastic and cards can build around him, if he cant the cards can plan accordingly but they have to know. I honestly would cut Bradford right now-glennon couldn't be worse...maybe give Cleveland a call about taylor?
sk took a shot with sam-it didn't work-move on, don't cry over spilt milk. look at belichik, he brings guys in and if it doesn't work out he doesn't hope they miraculously improve, he gets rid of them.
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Post by Rimrock on Sept 23, 2018 7:19:05 GMT -7
remember plummers first game action...stoney case started against the eagles...jake replaced him-took team on a 99 yard td drive...next week he started against Tennessee...iirc he had 4 tds and 4 pics and crowd at sun devil stadium gave him a standing ovation and cards mgt was like "why didn't we play jake sooner?" imho rosen needs to play now so that he can be evaluated...cards don't need to go into next season without having an idea if he can play or not-if he can, fantastic and cards can build around him, if he cant the cards can plan accordingly but they have to know. I honestly would cut Bradford right now-glennon couldn't be worse...maybe give Cleveland a call about taylor? sk took a shot with sam-it didn't work-move on, don't cry over spilt milk. look at belichik, he brings guys in and if it doesn't work out he doesn't hope they miraculously improve, he gets rid of them. He didn`t take a shot with Sam though...sam is doing his job as Meat filler until the team is ready for Josh...we were never gonna win these 1st 3 games in any universe ..Neva |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2018 7:27:32 GMT -7
remember plummers first game action...stoney case started against the eagles...jake replaced him-took team on a 99 yard td drive...next week he started against Tennessee...iirc he had 4 tds and 4 pics and crowd at sun devil stadium gave him a standing ovation and cards mgt was like "why didn't we play jake sooner?" imho rosen needs to play now so that he can be evaluated...cards don't need to go into next season without having an idea if he can play or not-if he can, fantastic and cards can build around him, if he cant the cards can plan accordingly but they have to know. I honestly would cut Bradford right now-glennon couldn't be worse...maybe give Cleveland a call about taylor? sk took a shot with sam-it didn't work-move on, don't cry over spilt milk. look at belichik, he brings guys in and if it doesn't work out he doesn't hope they miraculously improve, he gets rid of them. He didn`t take a shot with Sam though...sam is doing his job as Meat filler until the team is ready for Josh...we were never gonna win these 1st 3 games in any universe ..Neva Nobody knew that Mack would get traded to Chicago when the Schedule was set, nobody. The Bears and Washington were supposed to be springboard games for the New Coaching staff. To propel them to a running start for a playoff run But the diving board turned out to be too slippery and Wilks and Co. fell off the side of the board into the deep end of the pool. Now the Lifeguard has to go fish them out before they drown. They forgot their water wings and still had their lead shoes on.  |
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