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Post by respecttheprocess on Sept 17, 2018 16:31:15 GMT -7
BA came right out and said we would take at least (6) shots at chunk plays per game. Whether successful or not was not the point. But promising to attempt at least taking the top off the defense, helped open the box and intermediate routes benefiting both the running game and passing game. We take no shots now. We do not stretch the defense at all and we certainly do not take the top off the defense. The box is stacked against the run and there is no room to run crossing routes or intermediate routes in the east/west offense McCoy seems to favor. Now...having a wide receiver capable of running deep routes is essential. A line to protect long enough for such routes is also essential. A QB with enough arm talent is also essential. And finally, an offensive coordinator willing to dial up such plays is vital. We do not even attempt a pass beyond 30 yards!!! Our offense is predictable, easy to defend against and creates no ability to run against a stacked box or run west coast passing routes because we simply do not attack deep at all!!! We don't even try...so there is no threat that we will. BA got critized at the end of his tenure for not adjusting his big play offense to shorter more intermediate routes when defenses took away the deep threat. Well, McCoy must shoulder the criticism now for not adjusting to any deep passing attack whatsoever in any of his play calls.
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Post by Zaz on Sept 17, 2018 16:46:15 GMT -7
I thought from the title this was going to be a drinking game. Disappointed
I Got It -
2018 AZ CARDS GAME DRINKING GAME: Take a shot every time we get a 1st down
you will end the game stone sober and very pissed off
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Post by ConnecticutCard on Sept 17, 2018 17:26:52 GMT -7
Taking the top off the defense is literally the only thing JJ Nelson is there to do, why even keep him on the team if you’re not going to take a couple shots?
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Post by respecttheprocess on Sept 17, 2018 17:45:35 GMT -7
My point exactly!!! And it's not like Bradford can't throw a deep ball. But we aren't even trying to throw deep.
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Post by One_Heartbeat on Sept 17, 2018 17:56:24 GMT -7
Taking the top off the defense is literally the only thing JJ Nelson is there to do, why even keep him on the team if you’re not going to take a couple shots? I agree. Send him running down the field to drop a ball or get outjumped by a tall, 5'8" defender for the INT. At least us fans can jump up and down in glee watching the ball fly far!
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Post by respecttheprocess on Sept 17, 2018 18:08:07 GMT -7
Listen...I'm not going to defend whether JJ is the best deep threat to use...but the point of the post is you need to attack deep to open up the box for the run and whatever West Coast passing attack you desire to try...much like play action pass will never work if you don't try and establish the run.
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Post by pajaro cerebro on Sept 17, 2018 20:27:39 GMT -7
I thought from the title this was going to be a drinking game. Disappointed I Got It - 2018 AZ CARDS GAME DRINKING GAME: Take a shot every time we get a 1st downyou will end the game stone sober and very pissed off SK should play that game. Might work better than AA!
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Post by JAB on Sept 17, 2018 20:38:49 GMT -7
BA and his shtick was wearing old and now I already want it back.
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Post by ConnecticutCard on Sept 18, 2018 4:30:16 GMT -7
Let’s not pretend JJ never made any big catches. They were never pretty, and he definitely needed a couple steps on his man, but they happened, I saw them
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Post by r1ppedcardfan on Sept 18, 2018 5:56:35 GMT -7
J.j. is good at drawing pass interference on long passes.... why not take a couple shots?
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Post by itancanwa on Sept 18, 2018 7:45:00 GMT -7
Well unless we start taking some shots down the field were going to be looking at 11 defenders with in 10 yards of the LOS. That makes every running and passing play harder to get anything out of.
I was never in favor of BA's style of offense, but you still need to take a couple shots down the field each game. If for nothing more than to loosen up the defense. Most O coordinators set up their shots down the field using other plays. Seems like McCoy missed that class on how to be an O coordinator.
So until we take some shots down the field we are looking at a stacked defense. Less room for DJ to run and less room for those shorter passes.
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Post by rdo3 on Sept 18, 2018 8:10:42 GMT -7
McCoy and wilks missed pop warner 101.
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Post by rooseveltcardsfan on Sept 18, 2018 9:29:46 GMT -7
My point exactly!!! And it's not like Bradford can't throw a deep ball. But we aren't even trying to throw deep. Bradford can throw deep.. it’s a mistake to not, at least try to stretch the field.. even if it’s intercepted it’s like a punt.. can’t make 1st downs anyway..
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2018 9:52:59 GMT -7
BA and his shtick was wearing old and now I already want it back. Kinda like the old adage, "the grass is always...." you know. We had it good with BA but yet ppl just had to pick apart everything. Now we have a Total unknown that is floundering. Maybe this ship will get righted maybe not. Can not tell anything about what It "might" evolve into at this moment. Will the light come on for McCoy, Holcomb, and Wilks? And then will the team still have the drive to play hard?
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Post by biggs on Sept 18, 2018 10:10:18 GMT -7
BA and his shtick was wearing old and now I already want it back. Kinda like the old adage, "the grass is always...." you know. We had it good with BA but yet ppl just had to pick apart everything. Now we have a Total unknown that is floundering. Maybe this ship will get righted maybe not. Can not tell anything about what It "might" evolve into at this moment. Will the light come on for McCoy, Holcomb, and Wilks? And then will the team still have the drive to play hard? BA was a really good coach. He got SK a 5 year extension. He got Todd Bowles a Head Coaching job and turned Betcher into a pretty decent DC not to mention we had a very exciting team to watch that won a lot of games.
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