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Post by itancanwa on Sept 18, 2018 8:24:26 GMT -7
The Wilks hiring was a mistake. He isn't ready to be a HC. You can see that in the first 2 games. He has that deer in the headlight look. Neither game were the Cards ready to play. I've seen some bad Cards teams and bad head coaches in my time following the Cards, but this might just be the worst of both.
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Post by Cardinals Junkie on Sept 18, 2018 8:57:53 GMT -7
The Wilks hiring was a mistake. He isn't ready to be a HC. You can see that in the first 2 games. He has that deer in the headlight look. Neither game were the Cards ready to play. I've seen some bad Cards teams and bad head coaches in my time following the Cards, but this might just be the worst of both. That's what happens when you sit on your hands and wait for a coach to drop into your lap and do nothing aggressive to go get one. SK did the same thing with BA but got lucky. SW does look like a deer in headlights. He see's nothing wrong with McCoy and Bradford and has total confidence in them? It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see the defenses stacking the box because we are not opening up the field. He wants to figure out a way to use David Johnson more? What has he been doing the past 6 months? SW also hired an OC that was fired midseason the year before. What ever happened to everyone saying SW can coach up a defense and make them better then they were. He hasn't coached up anything. We are much worse at defense than we were last year. We have 2 - #1 draft pick sitting on the bench. We switched to 4-3 and we're not built for 4-3. We don't fire him until the end of the season but if the offense doesn't gain any traction in the 4 - 6 games then at least fire McCoy. Bidwill will need to have a good hard look at what's been assembled from GM to coaching at the end of the season and possibly clean house. |
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Post by biggs on Sept 18, 2018 9:07:54 GMT -7
The Wilks hiring was a mistake. He isn't ready to be a HC. You can see that in the first 2 games. He has that deer in the headlight look. Neither game were the Cards ready to play. I've seen some bad Cards teams and bad head coaches in my time following the Cards, but this might just be the worst of both. That's what happens when you sit on your hands and wait for a coach to drop into your lap and do nothing aggressive to go get one. SK did the same thing with BA but got lucky. SW does look like a deer in headlights. He see's nothing wrong with McCoy and Bradford and has total confidence in them? It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see the defenses stacking the box because we are not opening up the field. He wants to figure out a way to use David Johnson more? What has he been doing the past 6 months? SW also hired an OC that was fired midseason the year before. What ever happened to everyone saying SW can coach up a defense and make them better then they were. He hasn't coached up anything. We are much worse at defense than we were last year. We have 2 - #1 draft pick sitting on the bench. We switched to 4-3 and we're not built for 4-3. We don't fire him until the end of the season but if the offense doesn't gain any traction in the 4 - 6 games then at least fire McCoy. Bidwill will need to have a good hard look at what's been assembled from GM to coaching at the end of the season and possibly clean house. Bidwill and SK wanted Pat Shurmur. The guy who was part of the Giants brain trust that decided they are in win now mode and passed on Sam Darnold in the draft. Here's something to contemplate. Bidwill is just as likely to hire someone worse than SK and Wilks as better. Wilks is a rookie HC, he has to have at least a 2 year chance to evaluate the team and make the adjustments needed. Reddick sucked last year. SK has blown several drafts. McCoy was clearly SK guy. There is no way you fire Wilks before firing SK. SK should not be allowed to hire another head coach. The new GM should make that decision. |
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Post by rdo3 on Sept 18, 2018 9:14:41 GMT -7
I don't think he could hire someone worse than wilk if he tried. he could hire me as head coach and I couldn't find a way to lose more than two out of two games. at worse I would have the same record as wilks, and maybe I would get lucky and even win one.
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Post by ~MainEvent~ on Sept 18, 2018 9:22:35 GMT -7
The coaching choices were shitty, that was always going to be the issue. The biggest name got 100 million, traded their best player, and is sitting at 0-2. Our first choice was Pat Shurmur and he's 0-2. Adjusting to their personnel needs to be there first step, but the fact that that even needs to be typed is the issue right there.
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Post by rooseveltcardsfan on Sept 18, 2018 10:11:08 GMT -7
If McCoy doesn’t change his scheme this week, he should be fired.. I also think that Bradford will go down this week.. hopefully it will be nothing bad, but he won’t finish the game..
McCoy isn’t a smart coach.. I don’t think he has the smarts to change the whole scheme.. 1 trick pony!!
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Post by One_Heartbeat on Sept 18, 2018 10:21:10 GMT -7
That's what happens when you sit on your hands and wait for a coach to drop into your lap and do nothing aggressive to go get one. SK did the same thing with BA but got lucky. SW does look like a deer in headlights. He see's nothing wrong with McCoy and Bradford and has total confidence in them? It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see the defenses stacking the box because we are not opening up the field. He wants to figure out a way to use David Johnson more? What has he been doing the past 6 months? SW also hired an OC that was fired midseason the year before. What ever happened to everyone saying SW can coach up a defense and make them better then they were. He hasn't coached up anything. We are much worse at defense than we were last year. We have 2 - #1 draft pick sitting on the bench. We switched to 4-3 and we're not built for 4-3. We don't fire him until the end of the season but if the offense doesn't gain any traction in the 4 - 6 games then at least fire McCoy. Bidwill will need to have a good hard look at what's been assembled from GM to coaching at the end of the season and possibly clean house. Bidwill and SK wanted Pat Shurmur. The guy who was part of the Giants brain trust that decided they are in win now mode and passed on Sam Darnold in the draft. Here's something to contemplate. Bidwill is just as likely to hire someone worse than SK and Wilks as better. Wilks is a rookie HC, he has to have at least a 2 year chance to evaluate the team and make the adjustments needed. Reddick sucked last year. SK has blown several drafts. McCoy was clearly SK guy. There is no way you fire Wilks before firing SK. SK should not be allowed to hire another head coach. The new GM should make that decision. Wilks doesn't walk the plank without Keim, unless Mike suddenly goes insane which doesn't seem likely. After Extreme Summer DUI I'd bet if Keim tells Mike that his mother loves him Mike will hire a PI to check it out.
I don't think McCoy makes it to November, and that should be the end of him as an NFL OC. Getting canned midseason two years in a row does not a strong resume make.
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Post by CardSunsCard on Sept 18, 2018 13:32:17 GMT -7
If McCoy doesn’t change his scheme this week, he should be fired.. I also think that Bradford will go down this week.. hopefully it will be nothing bad, but he won’t finish the game.. McCoy isn’t a smart coach.. I don’t think he has the smarts to change the whole scheme.. 1 trick pony!! It's not all the scheme. I mean, John Brown is now catching fade passes for TD's. Arians must be miffed. www.baltimoreravens.com/news/ravens-wide-receiver-john-brown-is-showing-that-he-is-legit |
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Post by clutchdj on Sept 18, 2018 15:11:05 GMT -7
The coaching choices were shitty, that was always going to be the issue. The biggest name got 100 million, traded their best player, and is sitting at 0-2. Our first choice was Pat Shurmur and he's 0-2. Adjusting to their personnel needs to be there first step, but the fact that that even needs to be typed is the issue right there. DeFilippo would’ve(& should’ve) been a great hire. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2018 16:45:24 GMT -7
The coaching choices were shitty, that was always going to be the issue. The biggest name got 100 million, traded their best player, and is sitting at 0-2. Our first choice was Pat Shurmur and he's 0-2. Adjusting to their personnel needs to be there first step, but the fact that that even needs to be typed is the issue right there. Agreed. Then I read this Urban article on the main board www.azcardinals.com/news/deone-bucannon-haason-reddick-and-the-linebacker-rotation and it makes me shake my head. Wilks will gut this team trying to build a Carolina 4-3 D. He's wasting 1st rd picks because he's doing what many posters on this and the Old board accused BA of, shaping the players to His systemrather than having a system that uses the Players talents best. Neither Buc nor Reddick are "busts" like some here want to post. They are being forced into new positions that they have never played before in their whole football life. Only very Special players can do that. And then when they struggle they get put on the sideline. With Wilks and Holcomb's 4-3 insistence they are going to wreck a decent D (they have already started). They think they can shape it in 1 year or 2 cause they're positive they will have at least 2 years to build it. Already they have cut one of the 3 players they brought in when they released Boehm and Holden, DT Garrison Smith. He should have Never been brought in in the 1st place and one of the 2, Boehm or Holden kept instead. I would rather have those 2 than Munyer and the now cut DT Smith. As I said before Wilks has very much to say about who gets on the team, very much more than the majority of posters here like to admit. They would rather point fingers at the GM, you know that "fat drunk" that they make jokes about while they swill their own beer every night. There is great sadness in Mudville, the Mighty Casey has struck out! |
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Post by rooseveltcardsfan on Sept 18, 2018 17:27:23 GMT -7
If McCoy doesn’t change his scheme this week, he should be fired.. I also think that Bradford will go down this week.. hopefully it will be nothing bad, but he won’t finish the game.. McCoy isn’t a smart coach.. I don’t think he has the smarts to change the whole scheme.. 1 trick pony!! It's not all the scheme. I mean, John Brown is now catching fade passes for TD's. Arians must be miffed. www.baltimoreravens.com/news/ravens-wide-receiver-john-brown-is-showing-that-he-is-legitJ. Brown got paid.. If the Cardinals would have paid him, he would still be here.. that’s all he wanted.. and had a constant hamstring thing would have gone away.. He knew how much he was worth and wasn’t going to take the risk needed to be successful in the nfl. i bet his first contract was under $4 million. 4 yr. Fitz is expensive against the cap.. And I think he’s worth every penny.. if the cards would have extended him 2yrs ago, he would be a 12 mil cap hit this year, 16 next year but at least fitz will be on a new deal if he doesn’t retire..it was a money thing for Brown and the Cardinals didn’t have the cap space allocated to WR position.. definitely didn’t go over very well with BA, and the hamstring(s).. |
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Post by equilibrium on Sept 19, 2018 1:05:21 GMT -7
The two worst teams (Bills & Cardinals) are coached by previous two DCs of Carolina.
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Post by longtimefan on Sept 19, 2018 13:20:14 GMT -7
What is interesting to me is that all of the Cardinals (including Fitz) were drinking the cool aid during training camp. All of them, (including our radio pundits) were praising the method and approach of Wilks. Fast forward a couple of weeks and see how wholly unprepared the Cards have been for the beginning of the season. I wish there was one thing I could point to, but there are just too many problems to identify a single area that needs correction or improvement. It appears to be going from bad to worse because the Bears are on their way up and the Cards are on their way down.
Our preseason game wins were actually pretty lucky. One could see that there were big issues with this team and if you go back and watch, it is pretty clear, the Cards had some favorable bounces of the ball. This team has all the earmarkings of the Detroit team that went 4-0 in the preseason and 0-16 in the regular season. If the Cards do not start to become competitive, they will not win any games this year.
You cannot replace the entire roster, so the question becomes, when do you start replacing coaches who have not demonstrated an ability to field a competitive team?
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Post by Raze on Sept 19, 2018 14:19:08 GMT -7
The coaching choices were shitty, that was always going to be the issue. The biggest name got 100 million, traded their best player, and is sitting at 0-2. Our first choice was Pat Shurmur and he's 0-2. Adjusting to their personnel needs to be there first step, but the fact that that even needs to be typed is the issue right there. Agreed. Then I read this Urban article on the main board www.azcardinals.com/news/deone-bucannon-haason-reddick-and-the-linebacker-rotation and it makes me shake my head. Wilks will gut this team trying to build a Carolina 4-3 D. He's wasting 1st rd picks because he's doing what many posters on this and the Old board accused BA of, shaping the players to His systemrather than having a system that uses the Players talents best. Neither Buc nor Reddick are "busts" like some here want to post. They are being forced into new positions that they have never played before in their whole football life. Only very Special players can do that. And then when they struggle they get put on the sideline. With Wilks and Holcomb's 4-3 insistence they are going to wreck a decent D (they have already started). They think they can shape it in 1 year or 2 cause they're positive they will have at least 2 years to build it. Already they have cut one of the 3 players they brought in when they released Boehm and Holden, DT Garrison Smith. He should have Never been brought in in the 1st place and one of the 2, Boehm or Holden kept instead. I would rather have those 2 than Munyer and the now cut DT Smith. As I said before Wilks has very much to say about who gets on the team, very much more than the majority of posters here like to admit. They would rather point fingers at the GM, you know that "fat drunk" that they make jokes about while they swill their own beer every night. There is great sadness in Mudville, the Mighty Casey has struck out! I agree. However, we kinda knew that DBuc and Reddick would struggle to find their position in the 4-3 before the season. As much as I like the two guys, Dry Heat was right in suggesting trading them to the Giants when their stock was high. They don't fit the vision of the current regime. To everyone else, while I'm just as disgusted as anyone else at how awful we started it's quite a bit premature to suggest a HC change. MANY MANY HCs have had rough starts. In fact, aren't all the new HCs 0-2? And for those lamenting over missing out on Shurmur, you haven't been paying attention to what's going on in NY. They're just as much on the edge of the cliff as we are. They've been an undisciplined mess. Exactly what Shurmur showed in Cleveland. However, the guy deserves time to try to fix it. Same here. |
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Post by Rimrock on Sept 19, 2018 14:35:26 GMT -7
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