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Post by Zaz on Sept 10, 2018 18:13:18 GMT -7
I spent some time breaking down the failure of the offense yesterday. Fault lies: 50% Mccoy - Awful, uninspired, predictable. Id fire Mccoy today, honestly. That was atrocious play calling and offensive philosophy. 40% Bradford - Made the bad play calling worse by awful reads, inaccuracy. Terrible QB play. 9% WRs not named Larry - Chad is a bust. Kirk needs to PICK IT UP. 1% TEs - Seals dropped a worthless garbage time TD. UNACCEPTABLE. 0% OL - Did a really good job. Bradford was sacked once. They did great. 0% RBs - Whenever David/Chase ran, they did well. But game was out of hand, couldnt run. Pick what up? His garbage QB(who in fact, has been an under-average QB at BEST his entire career) & OC? Don’t blame a single game on the WRs until them pathetic clowns named Samuel Bradford & Michael McCoy are gone. he and chad dont get open. I watched them. In fact Chad ran a wrong route. They just got lucky another receiver caught the ball. Nope. Kirk absolutely contributed nothing to the offense. There was a reason Bradford was holding it so long. The reason Antonio Brown is the best WR in the NFL is because he gets open. Larry is old and slow. Why is he still good? gets open.
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Post by clutchdj on Sept 10, 2018 18:37:39 GMT -7
Pick what up? His garbage QB(who in fact, has been an under-average QB at BEST his entire career) & OC? Don’t blame a single game on the WRs until them pathetic clowns named Samuel Bradford & Michael McCoy are gone. he and chad dont get open. I watched them. In fact Chad ran a wrong route. They just got lucky another receiver caught the ball. Nope. Kirk absolutely contributed nothing to the offense. There was a reason Bradford was holding it so long. The reason Antonio Brown is the best WR in the NFL is because he gets open. Larry is old and slow. Why is he still good? gets open. Maybe he’s not good at the game of football? Is that not obvious? Not to mention he plays for a offensive coordinator who is also not good at the game of football. Ever thought of it like that? You really said Bradford was one of the top QBs of the league before, lmao. Not surprising though from you.
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Post by NorthernSoul on Sept 10, 2018 22:38:35 GMT -7
First game so I am far away from making any proclamations. This is a brand new team in about every way so I will give them some rope. For the time being, this is also my feelings. I was as disappointed as anyone, but it was only one game. For the last few years and for whatever reason we are simply not ready for the season opener. From here on out, and especially when there so many changes, we need to play the first teamers more in preseason. I mean come on. How many snaps did Bradford get in preseason. He made exactly 11 pass attempts this preseason. Then when you consider he only played in 2 games last year. I don't care how good or bad he is, he can't help to be anything but rusty. As far as key stats go. These are two that stuck out to me. Time of possession. Our defense was on the field for 38:08. I'm not gonna say our defense played well, they did not, but that means our defense was on the field 16:56 mins longer than the Redskins defense. Our defense got worn out early. You can't win games like that. The other stat that greatly concerns me. Of our WR's and other that Larry, we had one catch for 4 yards by Kirk. As good as Larry is, he can't do it all. I'm hoping this was a learning experience for the entire organization and they make the necessary adjustments. We are going to get to see if Steve Wilks is a contender or pretender in the coming weeks. All I ask for is to see a little improvement from week to week. We do that and I will stay on Wilks bandwagon. The Redskins were out of sight by half time though. Second half they coasted, getting first downs and chewing up the clock, while the Cards could barely move the chains. When you can’t stop the run, the clock is going to be against you. I struggle to to see how Wilkes can turn things around on Offense. With one of the worst WR groups, if not the worst, in the NFL, teams are going to gear up to stop DJ. That isn’t going to change unless new personnel are brought in. same on Defense for stopping the run. The Cards don’t have the secondary to cope with stacking the box, so will continue to be weak, unless new guys are brought in. i guess now it’s about deciding who goes at the end of the season. The cuts could be very wide ranging.
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Post by ForDaBirds on Sept 11, 2018 0:10:28 GMT -7
The whole coaching staff and players stunk it up yesterday. I don't like calling for guy's jobs but this stat say's it all for me. If McCoy want's to avoid the pink slip before mid season like last year he might want to change this up. You have a bell cow RB and he is handed the ball only 9 times !!! holy crap then you have a Qb that checks it down so much and he doesn't stretch the D and the RB get's 9 carries does anyone see the problem with the scheme? DJ should have had that many carries or more in the first half. I know this team is not very good but the coaching schemes are not helping on both sides of the ball. If this season continues downward I really hope MB considers cleaning house and bring in a staff that possesses creativity and basic commonsense when it comes to football. Sorry I had to get that out of my system. We were bad last year and this team looks worse then last year. Total QBR 82.9 for smith that was 3rd for yesterday 429 total yds. Total QBR 24.5 for Bradford that was 23rd for yesterday 213 total yds. During the first half the Cards' offense had only 14 plays. The last play Bradford took a knee with a few seconds left in the half, so they essentially ran only 13 plays. Of those plays DJ carried the ball 6 times. Being down 21 points at the start of the 2nd half significantly reduces the number times you are going to run. If the defense doesn't figure out how to stop being so porous, its going to make DJ a nonfactor this season. Constantly playing from far behind is going to significantly reduce the number of his carries. The Cards showed many flaws Sunday that need to be corrected, but the terrible run defense is at the top of the list. There has never been a good team with a poor run defense. Having to overcompensate against the run affects the pass defense. The other teams controls the time of possession (we had the ball for only seven minutes in the first half). Playing from behind makes the offense one dimensional. Its just a killer. So, if they don't figure out how to stop the run nothing else matters, including who plays QB. Let's hope the figure out the solution.
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Post by 1988card on Sept 11, 2018 14:10:27 GMT -7
I spent some time breaking down the failure of the offense yesterday. Fault lies: 50% Mccoy - Awful, uninspired, predictable. Id fire Mccoy today, honestly. That was atrocious play calling and offensive philosophy. 40% Bradford - Made the bad play calling worse by awful reads, inaccuracy. Terrible QB play. 9% WRs not named Larry - Chad is a bust. Kirk needs to PICK IT UP. 1% TEs - Seals dropped a worthless garbage time TD. UNACCEPTABLE. 0% OL - Did a really good job. Bradford was sacked once. They did great. 0% RBs - Whenever David/Chase ran, they did well. But game was out of hand, couldnt run. McCoy looked shocked, lost, uninspired, and unequipped for that beating yesterday. Did he every talk to Bradford face to face? I didn't see it. I give McCoy 4-5 weeks at best, unless he manages to rip off 4 miracle wins in a row, and that's what they will be, miracles, if this play-calling continues. See, I blame the defense for making McCoy look bad. What we saw was uninspiring, yes. However, we ran 14 plays in the 1st Half!!! 14!!! You can't get into any kind of rhythm running 14 plays. We had 7 minutes time of possession. That's on the defense, not McCoy. McCoy and his system may turn out to be trash, but I'm not going there this week.
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Post by biggs on Sept 11, 2018 14:58:23 GMT -7
McCoy looked shocked, lost, uninspired, and unequipped for that beating yesterday. Did he every talk to Bradford face to face? I didn't see it. I give McCoy 4-5 weeks at best, unless he manages to rip off 4 miracle wins in a row, and that's what they will be, miracles, if this play-calling continues. See, I blame the defense for making McCoy look bad. What we saw was uninspiring, yes. However, we ran 14 plays in the 1st Half!!! 14!!! You can't get into any kind of rhythm running 14 plays. We had 7 minutes time of possession. That's on the defense, not McCoy. McCoy and his system may turn out to be trash, but I'm not going there this week. Maybe if we strung together a few more first downs we would have run more than 14 plays. Maybe the D wouldn't have been on the field the entire 1st half. That loss was a complete team effort including McCoy and the O.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2018 15:11:54 GMT -7
The whole coaching staff and players stunk it up yesterday. I don't like calling for guy's jobs but this stat say's it all for me. If McCoy want's to avoid the pink slip before mid season like last year he might want to change this up. You have a bell cow RB and he is handed the ball only 9 times !!! holy crap then you have a Qb that checks it down so much and he doesn't stretch the D and the RB get's 9 carries does anyone see the problem with the scheme? DJ should have had that many carries or more in the first half. I know this team is not very good but the coaching schemes are not helping on both sides of the ball. If this season continues downward I really hope MB considers cleaning house and bring in a staff that possesses creativity and basic commonsense when it comes to football. Sorry I had to get that out of my system. We were bad last year and this team looks worse then last year. Total QBR 82.9 for smith that was 3rd for yesterday 429 total yds. Total QBR 24.5 for Bradford that was 23rd for yesterday 213 total yds. Smith's performance comes as no surprise. He's performed better than many here and elsewhere has ever given him credit for. Bradford on the other hand did come as a disappointing surprise. His performance yesterday made me wonder for the first time how much he has left. And I hope we don't see a scenario where we have to rely on the rookie to try and bail us out in hopes of a winning season. In passing I'll just say that it seems to me it takes courage and confidence to start a rookie over a veteran. That's one thing I will always hold Pete Carroll up for at the time he decided on a rookie QB over a proven vet.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2018 15:16:26 GMT -7
I forgot to say that I am optimistic that it's only one game and too soon to draw hard conclusions.
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Post by aris on Sept 11, 2018 17:28:23 GMT -7
See, I blame the defense for making McCoy look bad. What we saw was uninspiring, yes. However, we ran 14 plays in the 1st Half!!! 14!!! You can't get into any kind of rhythm running 14 plays. We had 7 minutes time of possession. That's on the defense, not McCoy. McCoy and his system may turn out to be trash, but I'm not going there this week. Maybe if we strung together a few more first downs we would have run more than 14 plays. Maybe the D wouldn't have been on the field the entire 1st half. That loss was a complete team effort including McCoy and the O. Too easy to blame the D for an inept offense. The cards scorecard in the first half was 5 straight possessions with a PUNT. Worst all around team performance I've seen in a long time. Bradford looks like a QB who doesn't want to get hit. I remember the start of the game and I thought the world would expect a DJ run to open up the game. BA would have done something different. McCoy just gave the ball to David.. Very unaspiring play calling.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2018 18:53:26 GMT -7
The plus side to all of this is, it appears the team knows what the issues are. As bad as a team can be, knowing the issues is a great thing. I really think this team can be pretty good in a couple of years. Right now their major issue on offense is the WR core. They dont have one outside Fitz. As bas as Kirk seems to be, I do believe the Cardinals got a really good special teams returner. So thats a bright side. RB wise, I think this is a decent tandem. Really liking the depth, when they actually use it. Sam Bradford, not too worried because we have a franchise QB of the future. OLine actually has looked decent in pre-season and in week 1. TE is a bit of a problem, for some reason this team never really made the TE spot a priority. But that again can be fixed. So on offense my take is simple, upgrade the WR group and you have a decent offense going to compete for the rest of the year. When your second best WR is your RB, you got problems.
Defense, I didnt get a chance to watch them much. I do know its hard for a defense when your offense is going 3 and out over and over again. The last time I checked the stats the Redskins had the ball for over 40 minutes vs only 20 minutes for the Cardinals. I dont care how good a defense is, you get gassed being out on the field that long.
Look, this team is not a playoff team this year. But I still think they can be good enough to compete if they just adjust a few things. The great news is it looks like we got a good oline going forward.
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Post by Dry Heat on Sept 11, 2018 19:04:54 GMT -7
Can’t blame just the O or the D. Their issues contributed hand in hand, resulting in the debacle that was the first half. The defense was anemic, and could not stop AP or Smith, allowing them yards and points and time of possession. The offense, mainly in the passing game, could not generate first downs or time of possession, meaning the defense was quickly on the field again, gassed. In the passing game, I’m honestly not sure to put the blame on coaching, Sam or the WRs. Again it’s probably all three, but I suspect the WRs were not getting as open as Sam was comfortable with on first and second options, causing Sam to revert to his stinking check downs. But it’s all on Sam to constantly fall short of passing short of the first down line on every third down.
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