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Post by Rimrock on May 9, 2018 19:45:09 GMT -7
Fullback? whodat?....anyone of importance or just another camp body? BTW..Cards signed him today or so say the text i got  |
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Post by Rimrock on May 9, 2018 19:46:36 GMT -7
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Post by knobby on May 9, 2018 21:04:42 GMT -7
Well - he seems to have a S-p-r B-wl* ring received when with the Seahawks, but the rest of his bio is not that impressive.
Most likely a temporary fixture IMO. Maybe someone owed him a favor?
* Trademark? Think I recall reading that somewhere, sometime in the past.
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Post by Dry Heat on May 9, 2018 21:24:01 GMT -7
The coach has talked about winning at the line of scrimmage and a wear them down style running game. There was talk of using a fullback in McCoys new offense before the draft. Then we drafted a RB when it wasn’t a need and signed one of the only two pure fullback UDFAs, I believe out of Wisconsin. We also signed an Olinemen who is huge yet played basketball, moves kind of like a TE, and seems to be able to catch the ball. FB/TE combo? Now we signed Coleman, one of the few true fullbacks left in the NFL.
Can’t you guys smell what’s cookin?
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Post by knobby on May 9, 2018 23:43:32 GMT -7
The coach has talked about winning at the line of scrimmage and a wear them down style running game. There was talk of using a fullback in McCoys new offense before the draft. Then we drafted a RB when it wasn’t a need and signed one of the only two pure fullback UDFAs, I believe out of Wisconsin. We also signed an Olinemen who is huge yet played basketball, moves kind of like a TE, and seems to be able to catch the ball. FB/TE combo? Now we signed Coleman, one of the few true fullbacks left in the NFL. Can’t you guys smell what’s cookin?
Oh yeah. Meat and potatoes. No way to miss that. But this guy didn't play much for Seattle, or make a splash when he did. Seems pretty average.
But maybe he is one of those late, late bloomers, or we're just kicking the tires as with others who will be kept or cut.
Didn't 'Diche do some running back duty in college? If he flames out on defense maybe plug him in to see what he can do? He had a flash last season running with the ball and looked happy doing it, as I recall. Don't remember which game though. Forgive my idle thinking there. . .
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Post by jeffcardinalfan on May 10, 2018 4:11:29 GMT -7
The coach has talked about winning at the line of scrimmage and a wear them down style running game. There was talk of using a fullback in McCoys new offense before the draft. Then we drafted a RB when it wasn’t a need and signed one of the only two pure fullback UDFAs, I believe out of Wisconsin. We also signed an Olinemen who is huge yet played basketball, moves kind of like a TE, and seems to be able to catch the ball. FB/TE combo? Now we signed Coleman, one of the few true fullbacks left in the NFL. Can’t you guys smell what’s cookin? im liking the smell |
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Post by cardsfan88 on May 10, 2018 6:23:11 GMT -7
I like it. If we can establish a strong running game and a stout defense we will win a lot of games. They go hand in hand. Our defense needs to keep up in games, and our running game needs to be utilized all 4 quarters to wear down our opponents. If we can get into the 4th quarter, within 3 points, and calling our 30-40th rushing attempt, I like our chances in most games. This type of offense is the best possible way to protect Bradford and bring Rosen along the right way as well.
As far as this guy, I dont know much about him. Penny has been talked about as a possible FB option, but I love Austin Ramesh the UDFA we signed from Wisconsin. This dude is a beast. I don't know how many FBs we will keep (my guess is 1)...but I would be my money on Ramesh
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2018 7:20:26 GMT -7
Has not shown up on the Card's roster yet. Of course sometimes the roster is not updated for days. And since the Team is at 90 right now, who is getting cut to make room for Coleman?
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Post by itancanwa on May 10, 2018 7:44:32 GMT -7
This isn't BA's offense anymore. Were not going to chuck it down the field 5,6,7 times a game. Not Wilks style. It's no longer going to be a 62 to 38 % disparity in run pass. More like a 50/0 split. We also can't get into shoot outs with this offense. Don't have the line or WR to do it. Going to be more ground and pound, and take a shot or two down the field when the D is set up for it. Most games are going to be won where we put up 20 to 27 points and the D allows less.
Biggest question is can any of our RB's run behind a fullback. DJ isn't used to that. Not even in college did he run behind a fullback. Whole different style of running when you run behind a fullback. I also think the kid from Wisconsin will beat out Coleman if they really keep a true fullback. |
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Post by ForDaBirds on May 10, 2018 8:00:04 GMT -7
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Post by CardsFanQC on May 10, 2018 8:56:35 GMT -7
The coach has talked about winning at the line of scrimmage and a wear them down style running game. There was talk of using a fullback in McCoys new offense before the draft. Then we drafted a RB when it wasn’t a need and signed one of the only two pure fullback UDFAs, I believe out of Wisconsin. We also signed an Olinemen who is huge yet played basketball, moves kind of like a TE, and seems to be able to catch the ball. FB/TE combo? Now we signed Coleman, one of the few true fullbacks left in the NFL. Can’t you guys smell what’s cookin? He was apparently good on ST with the Falcons -- here is a 2018 article wherein the author recommended the Falcons bring him back -- www.thefalcoholic.com/2018/2/19/17025234/the-case-for-and-against-the-falcons-bringing-back-derrick-coleman-in-2018. All of the OL including the new comers are better at run blocking than pass protection -- #1 objective is to keep Bradford upright so it looks like the run and play - action/screen game with occasional shots down the field (intermediate - Fitz and Seals-Jones) - (deep - Kirk and JJ Nelson). |
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Post by Lopez on May 10, 2018 9:08:55 GMT -7
I kind of like not having a fullback, it frees up an extra spot and I believe it's a dying position. Maybe I just think that because BA never had one. I'm curious if anyone knows how many teams carried a fullback last season?
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Post by Dry Heat on May 10, 2018 10:40:30 GMT -7
I kind of like not having a fullback, it frees up an extra spot and I believe it's a dying position. Maybe I just think that because BA never had one. I'm curious if anyone knows how many teams carried a fullback last season? I don’t know how many teams do, but I read the use of 2-back sets has fallen from 40% of offensive plays in the NFL to 11% in 2016. I do believe we will be at the beginning of a pendulum swing back towards more use though. 49ers and Rams as well, from what I’ve read. I am a proponent of doing the opposite of the trend on offense. For example, the NFL has become so pass heavy that defenses have shifted to adjust. This opens an opportunity against most teams on the ground. Few defenses are good at defending both the pass and the run, and most these days focus on the pass. |
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Post by knobby on May 10, 2018 12:08:54 GMT -7
. . . Can’t you guys smell what’s cookin? -- www.thefalcoholic.com/2018/2/19/17025234/the-case-for-and-against-the-falcons-bringing-back-derrick-coleman-in-2018. All of the OL including the new comers are better at run blocking than pass protection -- #1 objective is to keep Bradford upright so it looks like the run and play - action/screen game with occasional shots down the field (intermediate - Fitz and Seals-Jones) - (deep - Kirk and JJ Nelson). That writer hardly made great recommendation... more like, Oh well, he's about the same as others available. What I got from the link is that his bring back opinion was based on ST ability more than as Fullback. Would that ST aspect be why he was picked up by the Cards? Maybe. With all the new staff and system, it is
not easy to predict or analyze any aspect of the upcoming season(s).
The successful use of screen plays and Special Teams would be a refreshing change, wouldn't it?
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Post by knobby on May 10, 2018 12:16:30 GMT -7
I kind of like not having a fullback, it frees up an extra spot and I believe it's a dying position. Maybe I just think that because BA never had one. I'm curious if anyone knows how many teams carried a fullback last season? I don’t know how many teams do, but I read the use of 2-back sets has fallen from 40% of offensive plays in the NFL to 11% in 2016. I do believe we will be at the beginning of a pendulum swing back towards more use though. 49ers and Rams as well, from what I’ve read. I am a proponent of doing the opposite of the trend on offense. For example, the NFL has become so pass heavy that defenses have shifted to adjust. This opens an opportunity against most teams on the ground. Few defenses are good at defending both the pass and the run, and most these days focus on the pass.
I agree with Dry Heat. Being a contrarian and doing the opposite (and making that work) is both satisfying and often a successful strategy. Make opponents strengths their weakness. (that last may sound , but you know what I mean)
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