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Post by 4U2NV on Jan 16, 2019 14:14:31 GMT -7
I don't know how well Lawrence would fit a 3-4. Haven't spent a lot of time studying VJ's defensive style though so he could in theory. Don't want anything to do with Suh. Clowney is going to be paid more than he's worth. I would look at making Grady Jarrett the top priority if you want a top level free agent. Daryl Williams as well if he can come back healthy which is something we say way too often about the Cardinals o-line.
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Post by longtimefan on Jan 16, 2019 14:17:20 GMT -7
What about Donte Moncrief? He could be a solid #2 receiver. He is pretty big and his 4.4 40 time is OK. His 40 time was actually better than Cobbs and he is about 4 inches taller. Need to find out about his hands. I did not find anything on his drops this last season.
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Post by ~MainEvent~ on Jan 16, 2019 14:28:39 GMT -7
I'm giving them our 2nd. Sorry, it is what it is
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Post by Boomer on Jan 16, 2019 15:04:06 GMT -7
Why would we spend the money or picks on AB? Short term solution and we are not in a win now scenario no matter how you slice it. Jax is now paying for the mistakes in made in free agency and the Rams will be hurting in two years if they don't win the Super Bowl with their current roster. We need to get some fundamentally sound players on our OL and then worry about skill players that can perform...not the other way around.
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Post by Redbirdfan62 on Jan 16, 2019 15:19:35 GMT -7
Not many good free agents for the offense in my opinion kinda worried that we will address and not much on offense. Looks like the draft is where we will be looking for help on the offense or unless we work a few trades.
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Post by Redbirdfan62 on Jan 16, 2019 15:48:44 GMT -7
AB is so tempting, he would make this offense better right away. But he's a lot like a very pretty girl. I'm sure you guys can relate. You get taken in and first night in bed is great. But then you have to live with her inbetween and it's hell. that's AB. Holy Moses's lol
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Post by Redbirdfan62 on Jan 16, 2019 15:52:21 GMT -7
I'm giving them our 2nd. Sorry, it is what it is With no guarantees that fitz is coming back and the slim pickins in free agency for offensive help we have to do something to improve this offense. Unless someone has a better idea.
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Post by Redbirdfan62 on Jan 16, 2019 15:56:19 GMT -7
Why would we spend the money or picks on AB? Short term solution and we are not in a win now scenario no matter how you slice it. Jax is now paying for the mistakes in made in free agency and the Rams will be hurting in two years if they don't win the Super Bowl with their current roster. We need to get some fundamentally sound players on our OL and then worry about skill players that can perform...not the other way around. Where are you gonna get these sound offensive players ? Teams don't need to take 5 years to rebuild and AB has several years left in him. We are buying time and trying to improve through the process.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2019 16:09:04 GMT -7
Why would we spend the money or picks on AB? Short term solution and we are not in a win now scenario no matter how you slice it. Jax is now paying for the mistakes in made in free agency and the Rams will be hurting in two years if they don't win the Super Bowl with their current roster. We need to get some fundamentally sound players on our OL and then worry about skill players that can perform...not the other way around. Where are you gonna get these sound offensive players ? Teams don't need to take 5 years to rebuild and AB has several years left in him. We are buying time and trying to improve through the process. If we don't spend the money on the Linemen needed, then when would Rosen have the time to throw the ball to AB? Just look at how much Larry's production was reduced from this past years Offensive line woes. AB gonna magically throw to himself? Priorities. Cart before the horse or the horse before the cart? Which one do you want?
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Post by Redbirdfan62 on Jan 16, 2019 16:15:05 GMT -7
Where are you gonna get these sound offensive players ? Teams don't need to take 5 years to rebuild and AB has several years left in him. We are buying time and trying to improve through the process. If we don't spend the money on the Linemen needed, then when would Rosen have the time to throw the ball to AB? Just look at how much Larry's production was reduced from this past years Offensive line woes. AB gonna magically throw to himself? Priorities. Cart before the horse or the horse before the cart? Which one do you want? Get in line because the line is long and there are not that many available Joseph so now what ? lol I hope the cardinals are creative with what they have and what they draft.
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Post by Boomer on Jan 16, 2019 16:18:48 GMT -7
Why would we spend the money or picks on AB? Short term solution and we are not in a win now scenario no matter how you slice it. Jax is now paying for the mistakes in made in free agency and the Rams will be hurting in two years if they don't win the Super Bowl with their current roster. We need to get some fundamentally sound players on our OL and then worry about skill players that can perform...not the other way around. Where are you gonna get these sound offensive players ? Teams don't need to take 5 years to rebuild and AB has several years left in him. We are buying time and trying to improve through the process. Let's ask this question. How much do you think AB would have changed our season last year with a new HC, OC and DC? Still would have been a train wreck. to get this guy with all the changes happening right now. It's like buying a Ferrari for a blind guy.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2019 16:22:47 GMT -7
I don't know as I was asking you the questions. Notice this "?" at the end of my sentences?
I just don't see, at this stage, the prudence of spending $15 mil (plus a High draft pick} of our $58 Mil cap space, when we have so many Other pressing needs that must be addressed, for a skill position player costing That much.
Would he be a plus for the team all things equal. Yeah, "If" we can fix the lines and keep the QB upright with time to throw. But as of right now spending that money and draft capital on AB would be a Huge gamble. Are you really willing to do that? Seems you are.
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Post by Redbirdfan62 on Jan 16, 2019 16:26:11 GMT -7
Where are you gonna get these sound offensive players ? Teams don't need to take 5 years to rebuild and AB has several years left in him. We are buying time and trying to improve through the process. Let's ask this question. How much do you think AB would have changed our season last year with a new HC, OC and DC? Still would have been a train wreck. to get this guy with all the changes happening right now. You still have to put a team on the field and you need to try to win. Well with Josh and the bad play by the D the bad coaching schemes the horrible oline play probably not much. Are we giving up on this staff already though ? We have no idea if fitz is coming back and you can't wait on him, either you are proactive or get caught with your pants down. I don't like it and definitely don't like what is out there so I say it again anyone have a better idea of bringing in good players I'm all ears.
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Post by Redbirdfan62 on Jan 16, 2019 16:30:17 GMT -7
I don't know as I was asking you the questions. Notice this "?" at the end of my sentences? I just don't see, at this stage, the prudence of spending $15 mil (plus a High draft pick} of our $58 Mil cap space, when we have so many Other pressing needs that must be addressed, for a skill position player costing That much. Would he be a plus for the team all things equal. Yeah, "If" we can fix the lines and keep the QB upright with time to throw. But as of right now spending that money and draft capital on AB would be a Huge gamble. Are you really willing to do that? Seems you are. Well either way you need a Quality wr to go with kirk. What we get in my opinion for olineman are gonna be what we already have and what we draft because there are teams out there that will throw money at whats available and I am sure they are gonna go to better teams.Unfortunately we are not the only ones with cap space.
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Post by Boomer on Jan 16, 2019 16:31:32 GMT -7
Let's ask this question. How much do you think AB would have changed our season last year with a new HC, OC and DC? Still would have been a train wreck. to get this guy with all the changes happening right now. You still have to put a team on the field and you need to try to win. Well with Josh and the bad play by the D the bad coaching schemes the horrible oline play probably not much. Are we giving up on this staff already though ? We have no idea if fitz is coming back and you can't wait on him, either you are proactive or get caught with your pants down. I don't like it and definitely don't like what is out there so I say it again anyone have a better idea of bringing in good players I'm all ears. Fitz had a bad year because of our poor OL, rookie QB, bad play calling and his age. Do you really think that AB would have done better in his situation? What I am trying to say is one high priced, talented guy isn't going to change the myriad of issues we have on offense right now up to and including a new HC and still to be named OC. AB isn't coming to AZ. No way he wants to play here with all the issues we have right now and someone will offer the same or more money that's closer to contending anyway.
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