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Post by MT Diesel on Dec 1, 2024 15:27:13 GMT -7
For as much as I like JG and this staff...I have serious questions on a few game day choices...adjustments in game...and never stretching the field in the pass game.
To start why is JG not getting through to his assistants as per coaching MHJ up. MHJ isn't close to a bust, but he is showing signs of player unprepared. I blame the coaching at this point. Maybe less snaps for him so he can focus on less routes to run...I do not know...something with MHJ needs to be changed or adjusted.
To help all the WRs there needs to be routes that stretch the field...defenses are flatfooted defending the short and medium and never pressured deep.
Better play calling and WR execution would put more stress on defenses that is not there currently.
Why did the Cards go away from blitzing in the second half???Blitzing was effecting Darnold and they let him off the hook.
The offensive game plan is soooo conservative the defense is never stressed. Outside McBride K1 doesn't have any go to receivers...that is terrible for a team with so many talented WRs.
I have heard passive aggressive and it is a good description. I put these on JG as the HC he needs to get these things cleaned up.
JG has defense overachieving and that is a positive...he needs to demand better play from the offense as per play calling and way better WR play.
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Dec 1, 2024 15:50:45 GMT -7
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Post by End Zone on Dec 1, 2024 15:50:45 GMT -7
For as much as I like JG and this staff...I have serious questions on a few game day choices...adjustments in game...and never stretching the field in the pass game. To start why is JG not getting through to his assistants as per coaching MHJ up. MHJ isn't close to a bust, but he is showing signs of player unprepared. I blame the coaching at this point. Maybe less snaps for him so he can focus on less routes to run...I do not know...something with MHJ needs to be changed or adjusted. To help all the WRs there needs to be routes that stretch the field...defenses are flatfooted defending the short and medium and never pressured deep. Better play calling and WR execution would put more stress on defenses that is not there currently. Why did the Cards go away from blitzing in the second half???Blitzing was effecting Darnold and they let him off the hook. The offensive game plan is soooo conservative the defense is never stressed. Outside McBride K1 doesn't have any go to receivers...that is terrible for a team with so many talented WRs. I have heard passive aggressive and it is a good description. I put these on JG as the HC he needs to get these things cleaned up. JG has defense overachieving and that is a positive...he needs to demand better play from the offense as per play calling and way better WR play. It's not just JG that is on the hot stove but I will go with your argument in order to stay focused. Rallis did blitz in the second half, but the MIN OL held up, Darnold ran for some 1st downs, and then Darnold also hit some long passes. The couple ARZ PI's also didn't help us. MIN proved it can score fast when Jefferson has run of the football field. The Cardinals can also score fast when the run game is working. The run game definitely worked well for 3 quarters today. With 5 minutes to go and with the Cardinals driving, a TD would have iced the game. The team was on the MIN 10yd line! Instead, the drive failed and Ryland was forced* to kick a FG to give the Cardinals a vulnerable 6-point lead. Yes, teams sometimes play prevent defense and try to run out a 3:52 min clock. With a hot passer, that strategy will fail every time. Darnold got hot. A killer TD was the result. The Cardinals Defense and Offense did play okay today. I am proud of the sacks. I am proud of the ground game. I am proud of way the Cardinals tried to beat a 9-win team that relies on breaks to win close games. I did not see one Cardinals player lollygag. That's a firing offense made clear by JG. MHJ does look like he's running at 80% speed most plays. Maybe that's an illusion because he's graceful and not herky-jerky like some shorter WRs. I'm not talking about McBride of course. He's magical. Harrison needs to spend time with McBride and learn how he gets open on so many routes. I know JG will lean on the assistants. He has to do that or he and the entire coach tribe will be gone after 2025. JG can get away with a .500 year in 2024. That goal will not fly in 2025. |
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Post by cardinalsdo on Dec 1, 2024 16:07:25 GMT -7
We tried to pressure them deep on the final drives and that was the problem. Vikings applied pressure, our receivers are running deep routes that require time, Kyler has no one open to throw to and is under pressure. It was bad playcalling.
Also, the defensive play calling was horrible too at the end. Vikings OL was picking up the blitz and leaving players wide open. We were better off playing man and forcing Darnold to throw over their heads instead of giving them easy throws over the middle I still remember it was 4th and 7 and we are playing zone and Jefferson catches an easy first down with no one around him.
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Dec 2, 2024 11:53:07 GMT -7
Post by devongent on Dec 2, 2024 11:53:07 GMT -7
Vikings applied pressure, our receivers are running deep routes that require time, Kyler has no one open to throw to and is under pressure. Is the main issue here that we are lacking a stud player in the slot who can really mix our play up? - A genuine question and I would welcome anyone's views. |
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Dec 5, 2024 12:11:43 GMT -7
Post by cardinalsdo on Dec 5, 2024 12:11:43 GMT -7
For me, all this talk of JG being a defensive genius or a brilliant young defensive mind is just not a reality. I've never seen any adjustment he has made to stop offenses. When you need a stop, I feel like JG can't get you that. The vibe I get is he is more motivational speaker than young Bill Belichick. I don't see any defensive brilliance in him at all. Now with that said, he does seem to be a good leader. Bill Parcels was not a defensive savant; he was a great leader. The best coaches often are.
Likewise, some of the best minds don't make the best head coaches because they are not leaders. The best and most obvious example is Norm Chow. He was the offensive genius behind USC's offense in the 2000's. He has a brilliant mind but no presence or leadership skills. So you can't be too hard on JG. Another example is Kliff Kingsbury. He is doing a great job as an OC in Washington but he wasn't a great head coach here for the same reasons. Great mind but not a great leader
There are some who are both: Andy Reid comes to mind, Bill Walsh is another, Bill Belichick...he may not have been charismatic but his style worked for years.
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Dec 6, 2024 5:37:56 GMT -7
Post by End Zone on Dec 6, 2024 5:37:56 GMT -7
I wouldn't compare any NCAAF coach guru to an NFL coach guru. The coaching environments are different.
The sports are entirely different, requiring managing either boys or men.
There is an ESPN article this morning (12/6) about Belichick considering taking a head coaching job at the University of North Carolina to replace someone I forgot. I suppose the 72-year-old former NFL head coach might find the college job invigorating. It sure will be frustrating, considering the NIL. The pay will be good. That's for sure.
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Dec 6, 2024 6:50:37 GMT -7
Post by MT Diesel on Dec 6, 2024 6:50:37 GMT -7
I wouldn't compare any NCAAF coach guru to an NFL coach guru. The coaching environments are different. The sports are entirely different, requiring managing either boys or men. There is an ESPN article this morning (12/6) about Belichick considering taking a head coaching job at the University of North Carolina to replace someone I forgot. I suppose the 72-year-old former NFL head coach might find the college job invigorating. It sure will be frustrating, considering the NIL. The pay will be good. That's for sure. NIL at a liquidity rich university is what makes the college HC jobs enticing to good coaches…they can sign the player or players of their choice without CAP restrictions as the NFL has as well as having 100 man roster…they can rotate proven players and get 1-2 years worth of play from them and sign new replacements each year. Coach’s like Sabin are set for life with the amount of money the donors give not only in NIL money for players, but they also pay for coaches homes…give the financial backing to start auto dealerships and then sell high end cars to former players who cash in on NFL contracts. It is a money grab with long term returns. It isn’t about what coaching position should be…it is a money grab with more opportunities to cash in without the restrictions of the NFL. |
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Dec 8, 2024 23:29:17 GMT -7
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Post by knobby on Dec 8, 2024 23:29:17 GMT -7
Another ugly loss today merits further comment on this topic, IMO.
1) Are JG and his staff of coaches adequate, improving, or regressing? 1a) Whichever, who seems most deserving of praise or blame? 1b) Do you think JG a good head coach, or is he too "hands-off"?
2) Are the players adequate, improving or regressing since the season began? 2a) If so or if not, who/where/what are the involved parts of the team, or individual players?
3) Is it too early to speak of a failing rebuild, or near the time to draw a line in the sand? 3a) Would giving responsible people ultimatums now be deserved, or should it wait? 3b) Would team or staff morale be seriously damaged by issuing ultimatums to some? 3c) Is concern about morale more important than a true turnaround and more wins?
4) Has Monti O. done all he can and should to make general improvement possible?
5) Is this post deserved, or is it frustration from witnessing yet another weak display
by offense, defense and coaching - not necessarily in that order? 
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Dec 9, 2024 6:11:53 GMT -7
Post by End Zone on Dec 9, 2024 6:11:53 GMT -7
Another ugly loss today merits further comment on this topic, IMO.
1) Are JG and his staff of coaches adequate, improving, or regressing? 1a) Whichever, who seems most deserving of praise or blame? 1b) Do you think JG a good head coach, or is he too "hands-off"?
2) Are the players adequate, improving or regressing since the season began? 2a) If so or if not, who/where/what are the involved parts of the team, or individual players?
3) Is it too early to speak of a failing rebuild, or near the time to draw a line in the sand? 3a) Would giving responsible people ultimatums now be deserved, or should it wait? 3b) Would team or staff morale be seriously damaged by issuing ultimatums to some? 3c) Is concern about morale more important than a true turnaround and more wins?
4) Has Monti O. done all he can and should to make general improvement possible?
5) Is this post deserved, or is it frustration from witnessing yet another weak display
by offense, defense and coaching - not necessarily in that order?
Knobby, There's a lot to chew on in your list. We'll sit around the hot stove this winter and discuss all that. Here's my view: Until the team has a true team leader on the field, no other change will fix the team. Murray can quarterback. We know that. But he cannot quarterback effectively as a pocket passer. He's just not physically able to do it. All NFL QBs must be able to see downfield and complete their passes. If for any reason the QB cannot complete passes, then he's not going to be an NFL quarterback. Since the Cardinals are unable to change the team leader due to contractual commitments, then the coaches must find a way to help the QB be successful. And if the coaches cannot do that, change the coaches. EZ |
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Dec 9, 2024 8:02:18 GMT -7
Post by devongent on Dec 9, 2024 8:02:18 GMT -7
Since the Cardinals are unable to change the team leader due to contractual commitments, then the coaches must find a way to help the QB be successful. And if the coaches cannot do that, change the coaches. EZ Sounds to be a fair and decent summary to me. |
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Dec 9, 2024 9:20:15 GMT -7
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Post by CardCore on Dec 9, 2024 9:20:15 GMT -7
Since the Cardinals are unable to change the team leader due to contractual commitments, then the coaches must find a way to help the QB be successful. And if the coaches cannot do that, change the coaches. EZ Sounds to be a fair and decent summary to me. The best approach would be to start Tune or Brown or just about anybody else for the remainder of the season. That is the only way out. The Cardinals braintrust made a serious mistake and they need to face that and rectify it rather than waste more years trying to work AROUND that fact. They're already paying both Kyler and Tune. Kyler isn't the answer (not that Tune is). No. I'm not kidding. Kyler would be mortified and want out. Let him explore that. |
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Dec 9, 2024 9:24:56 GMT -7
Post by End Zone on Dec 9, 2024 9:24:56 GMT -7
Sounds to be a fair and decent summary to me. The best approach would be to start Tune or Brown or just about anybody else for the remainder of the season. That is the only way out. The Cardinals braintrust made a serious mistake and they need to face that and rectify it rather than waste more years trying to work AROUND that fact. They're already paying both Kyler and Tune. Kyler isn't the answer (not that Tune is). No. I'm not kidding. Kyler would be mortified and want out. Let him explore that. Did you see what the Mets paid Yankees' a slugger today? Around $750M for 15 years. And the contract has escalators, possibly pushing the cost over $800M. Murray might want to reconsider baseball. If he jumped back into the baseball world, Bidwill would demand a lot of $ compensation from the wealthy baseball team owner. |
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Dec 9, 2024 9:32:58 GMT -7
Post by CardCore on Dec 9, 2024 9:32:58 GMT -7
The best approach would be to start Tune or Brown or just about anybody else for the remainder of the season. That is the only way out. The Cardinals braintrust made a serious mistake and they need to face that and rectify it rather than waste more years trying to work AROUND that fact. They're already paying both Kyler and Tune. Kyler isn't the answer (not that Tune is). No. I'm not kidding. Kyler would be mortified and want out. Let him explore that. Did you see what the Mets paid Yankees' a slugger today? Around $750M for 15 years. And the contract has escalators, possibly pushing the cost over $800M. Murray might want to reconsider baseball. If he jumped back into the baseball world, Bidwill would demand a lot of $ compensation from the wealthy baseball team owner. No! I did not see that. I have been wishing K1 would change his mind about his ambitions.... " I wanna win the World Series!!"... would be music to my ears. |
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Dec 9, 2024 9:42:41 GMT -7
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Post by ricardo on Dec 9, 2024 9:42:41 GMT -7
Did you see what the Mets paid Yankees' a slugger today? Around $750M for 15 years. And the contract has escalators, possibly pushing the cost over $800M. Murray might want to reconsider baseball. If he jumped back into the baseball world, Bidwill would demand a lot of $ compensation from the wealthy baseball team owner. No! I did not see that. I have been wishing K1 would change his mind about his ambitions.... " I wanna win the World Series!!"... would be music to my ears. KM should talk with Tim Tebow to see how that worked out for him. |
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Dec 9, 2024 9:57:34 GMT -7
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Post by CardCore on Dec 9, 2024 9:57:34 GMT -7
No! I did not see that. I have been wishing K1 would change his mind about his ambitions.... " I wanna win the World Series!!"... would be music to my ears. KM should talk with Tim Tebow to see how that worked out for him. It would work out the same as his football dream most likely. |
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