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Post by MT Diesel on Nov 24, 2024 8:33:01 GMT -7
JG loves his 3 safety formations. Funny that some have made comments that a safety who is poor in coverage isn't a safety. Yet any WR who gets safety coverage believes that is a win for the offense. It is the knock on Budda. Reality is a safety depending on his coverage ability determines the best use of such a player.
In recent years the one safety high has been replaced with the two high safety formations. Even with pre-snap single high looks...the defense moves into a 2 high formation post snap. The bears front that sported 3 DBs became a dinosaur with passing proficiency. The Nickel is the go to so many times...there are two basic Nickel defenses...Nickel or Big Nickel.
Big Nickel is taking a LB out of a 4-3 or 3-4 formation and replacing him with a safety over a Nickel that replaces a LB with a CB.
Rallis and JG want more diversity with players...a DB who can play safety or CB well allows more games in coverage and run defense.
I am sure the staff is salivating with the prospects of playing Budda, Thompson and Rabbit in the near future together. Thompson excels at FS and Nickel CB and is a solid blitzer. Rabit is a great FS with more speed, he can fly in the box in run defense similar to Budda and he plays strong safety well, Budda is the LB safety who is small at 200 LBs and plays larger than his size...Budda is poor at FS and medium and deep coverage...what he lacks in space he makes up in the box and short coverage.
When Budda is the Joker LB and short coverage safety who covers the dump off RB or TE he blows up plays. Miami game was the best use of Budda with Thompson, Melton and G Williams ability to free him up Budda could choose his attack and also defend the drop-down routes that coaches like McDaniel, McVey and Shanahan kill defenses with.
The reason Budda is loved by JG and Fallis is he is such a game changer in the box...when the other DBs are proficient Budda is allowed the freedom to wreck plays around the line of scrimmage. Since the Miami game we have seen the continuation of Budda on the loose.
Although not a big player Budda is important to allow the big Nickel to be played in AZ and the surface is just now being scratched...he is a Joker and eraser who when given freedom can destroy well laid out offensive plays.
Even with Thompson out this week the Cards defense has a wild Card who can trump the best of offensive plays.
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Post by CardCore on Nov 24, 2024 10:21:50 GMT -7
JG loves his 3 safety formations. Funny that some have made comments that a safety who is poor in coverage isn't a safety. Yet any WR who gets safety coverage believes that is a win for the offense. It is the knock on Budda. Reality is a safety depending on his coverage ability determines the best use of such a player. In recent years the one safety high has been replaced with the two high safety formations. Even with pre-snap single high looks...the defense moves into a 2 high formation post snap. The bears front that sported 3 DBs became a dinosaur with passing proficiency. The Nickel is the go to so many times...there are two basic Nickel defenses...Nickel or Big Nickel. Big Nickel is taking a LB out of a 4-3 or 3-4 formation and replacing him with a safety over a Nickel that replaces a LB with a CB. Rallis and JG want more diversity with players...a DB who can play safety or CB well allows more games in coverage and run defense. I am sure the staff is salivating with the prospects of playing Budda, Thompson and Rabbit in the near future together. Thompson excels at FS and Nickel CB and is a solid blitzer. Rabit is a great FS with more speed, he can fly in the box in run defense similar to Budda and he plays strong safety well, Budda is the LB safety who is small at 200 LBs and plays larger than his size...Budda is poor at FS and medium and deep coverage...what he lacks in space he makes up in the box and short coverage. When Budda is the Joker LB and short coverage safety who covers the dump off RB or TE he blows up plays. Miami game was the best use of Budda with Thompson, Melton and G Williams ability to free him up Budda could choose his attack and also defend the drop-down routes that coaches like McDaniel, McVey and Shanahan kill defenses with. The reason Budda is loved by JG and Fallis is he is such a game changer in the box...when the other DBs are proficient Budda is allowed the freedom to wreck plays around the line of scrimmage. Since the Miami game we have seen the continuation of Budda on the loose. Although not a big player Budda is important to allow the big Nickel to be played in AZ and the surface is just now being scratched...he is a Joker and eraser who when given freedom can destroy well laid out offensive plays. Even with Thompson out this week the Cards defense has a wild Card who can trump the best of offensive plays. The Cards brought back Chachere and we should be seeing him today.
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Post by Dry Heat on Nov 24, 2024 11:37:35 GMT -7
I don’t think I’ve said a safety who can’t cover isn’t a safety, but I’ve pointed out Budda’s weakness as a safety and that is pass coverage. He excels otherwise. My main issue with Budda isn’t coverage ability, my issue with Budda and Thomson are that they represent two of our three highest cap expenditures. This is not what Gannon would call a “winning choice”.
Regardless, Budda has established himself as a team leader and a difference maker in our defense. 1st round rookie Darius Robinson said in an interview this week that he thinks Budda Baker is the best football player he’s ever been around. I think at this point we need to make sure he remains on our team for another 2-4 year contract. I just hate having so much money tied up at the safety position. To me safety is the RB position of the defense in that you can find great ones in FA and later rounds of the draft.
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Post by MT Diesel on Nov 24, 2024 12:28:41 GMT -7
I don’t think I’ve said a safety who can’t cover isn’t a safety, but I’ve pointed out Budda’s weakness as a safety and that is pass coverage. He excels otherwise. My main issue with Budda isn’t coverage ability, my issue with Budda and Thomson are that they represent two of our three highest cap expenditures. This is not what Gannon would call a “winning choice”. Regardless, Budda has established himself as a team leader and a difference maker in our defense. 1st round rookie Darius Robinson said in an interview this week that he thinks Budda Baker is the best football player he’s ever been around. I think at this point we need to make sure he remains on our team for another 2-4 year contract. I just hate having so much money tied up at the safety position. To me safety is the RB position of the defense in that you can find great ones in FA and later rounds of the draft. I smell the thought process that is popular in the NFL front offices...one example of the impact is the Bengals...they took your approach and didn't pay their safety and their defense has suffered...my thought is take logical approaches, but also understand the impact of individual players and their impact despite positional value...JG chose to bring in an old vet safety to stabilize his backside of the defense as an Eagle DC. Budda is exposed when he doesn't have support...then again what player doesn't suffer from poor surrounding players. I have a feeling Budda will be resigned...since the coaches value him.
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Post by MT Diesel on Nov 24, 2024 12:29:26 GMT -7
JG loves his 3 safety formations. Funny that some have made comments that a safety who is poor in coverage isn't a safety. Yet any WR who gets safety coverage believes that is a win for the offense. It is the knock on Budda. Reality is a safety depending on his coverage ability determines the best use of such a player. In recent years the one safety high has been replaced with the two high safety formations. Even with pre-snap single high looks...the defense moves into a 2 high formation post snap. The bears front that sported 3 DBs became a dinosaur with passing proficiency. The Nickel is the go to so many times...there are two basic Nickel defenses...Nickel or Big Nickel. Big Nickel is taking a LB out of a 4-3 or 3-4 formation and replacing him with a safety over a Nickel that replaces a LB with a CB. Rallis and JG want more diversity with players...a DB who can play safety or CB well allows more games in coverage and run defense. I am sure the staff is salivating with the prospects of playing Budda, Thompson and Rabbit in the near future together. Thompson excels at FS and Nickel CB and is a solid blitzer. Rabit is a great FS with more speed, he can fly in the box in run defense similar to Budda and he plays strong safety well, Budda is the LB safety who is small at 200 LBs and plays larger than his size...Budda is poor at FS and medium and deep coverage...what he lacks in space he makes up in the box and short coverage. When Budda is the Joker LB and short coverage safety who covers the dump off RB or TE he blows up plays. Miami game was the best use of Budda with Thompson, Melton and G Williams ability to free him up Budda could choose his attack and also defend the drop-down routes that coaches like McDaniel, McVey and Shanahan kill defenses with. The reason Budda is loved by JG and Fallis is he is such a game changer in the box...when the other DBs are proficient Budda is allowed the freedom to wreck plays around the line of scrimmage. Since the Miami game we have seen the continuation of Budda on the loose. Although not a big player Budda is important to allow the big Nickel to be played in AZ and the surface is just now being scratched...he is a Joker and eraser who when given freedom can destroy well laid out offensive plays. Even with Thompson out this week the Cards defense has a wild Card who can trump the best of offensive plays. The Cards brought back Chachere and we should be seeing him today. I saw that as well...no surprise when you look at what JG wants.
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Post by End Zone on Nov 24, 2024 14:21:42 GMT -7
JG loves his 3 safety formations. Funny that some have made comments that a safety who is poor in coverage isn't a safety. Yet any WR who gets safety coverage believes that is a win for the offense. It is the knock on Budda. Reality is a safety depending on his coverage ability determines the best use of such a player. In recent years the one safety high has been replaced with the two high safety formations. Even with pre-snap single high looks...the defense moves into a 2 high formation post snap. The bears front that sported 3 DBs became a dinosaur with passing proficiency. The Nickel is the go to so many times...there are two basic Nickel defenses...Nickel or Big Nickel. Big Nickel is taking a LB out of a 4-3 or 3-4 formation and replacing him with a safety over a Nickel that replaces a LB with a CB. Rallis and JG want more diversity with players...a DB who can play safety or CB well allows more games in coverage and run defense. I am sure the staff is salivating with the prospects of playing Budda, Thompson and Rabbit in the near future together. Thompson excels at FS and Nickel CB and is a solid blitzer. Rabit is a great FS with more speed, he can fly in the box in run defense similar to Budda and he plays strong safety well, Budda is the LB safety who is small at 200 LBs and plays larger than his size...Budda is poor at FS and medium and deep coverage...what he lacks in space he makes up in the box and short coverage. When Budda is the Joker LB and short coverage safety who covers the dump off RB or TE he blows up plays. Miami game was the best use of Budda with Thompson, Melton and G Williams ability to free him up Budda could choose his attack and also defend the drop-down routes that coaches like McDaniel, McVey and Shanahan kill defenses with. The reason Budda is loved by JG and Fallis is he is such a game changer in the box...when the other DBs are proficient Budda is allowed the freedom to wreck plays around the line of scrimmage. Since the Miami game we have seen the continuation of Budda on the loose. Although not a big player Budda is important to allow the big Nickel to be played in AZ and the surface is just now being scratched...he is a Joker and eraser who when given freedom can destroy well laid out offensive plays. Even with Thompson out this week the Cards defense has a wild Card who can trump the best of offensive plays. I can't help but think about S ADub when you talked about BB being a wrecking ball, blowing up plays again and again.
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Post by cardinalsdo on Nov 24, 2024 17:23:55 GMT -7
Defense looked great. They were warriors today. They kept us in this game. They obviously got tired because they were constantly on the field. Having nothing critical to say of the defense. If anything, they got cheated out of some calls. That was clearly a safety/intentional grounding call that was missed. That would have been called in AZ.
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Post by CardSunsCard on Nov 24, 2024 18:29:39 GMT -7
JG loves his 3 safety formations. ... A few years back I was talking about this trend, only it hadn't become a trend yet. If you go back to Kyler's college days, where Iowa State started running 3-3-5 before anyone else, Iowa State was giving much better Air Raid teams fits with this 3 safety look. With the NFL moving more toward pass happy systems, it makes sense that this bend but don't break look would enter the NFL and be moderately successful, especially as more NFL teams abandon the power run. The latter being the thing that would always force 3-3-5 base look teams to abandon their primary defense. The thing about the 3-3-5 (or 4-2-5) is it offers you two advantages. 1. Tremendous versatility in pass defense 2. If you have lesser athletes, which the Cards currently do on defense, the above versatility masks athletic deficiencies. The only real weakness of the 3 safety look is being suspect to good run games, but that can be remedied if you can find a disruptor as talented as Chris Jones or Aaron Donald. Those guys are tough to find which is why we should be focusing on finding those guys more so than a edge rusher. Don't get me wrong, I'm not passing on an edge guy if I think he's the next Von Miller. But the whole point of the 3-3-5 is you get tons of coverage sacks because most of todays QBs aren't great thinkers. They grew up running non traditional offenses, exceptions being guys like Texan's Stroud. And if those guys read defenses slower, even your 3 or 4 man rush is going to generate decent sack rate. I think this is where I'm opposite most board members. It's not just that I prefer power run play action systems. I prefer bend-don't break defenses vs. blitz happy defenses easily picked apart by any decent playoff QB. I'm not a huge Tampa 2 fan, but Tampa is a good example of the bend but don't break defense - back in the day. I just prefer 3 safeties because being able to disguise that many coverages leads to a ton of sacks if you can find yourself a Vita Vea to shut down the inside run game.
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Post by MT Diesel on Nov 24, 2024 18:40:21 GMT -7
Defense looked great. They were warriors today. They kept us in this game. They obviously got tired because they were constantly on the field. Having nothing critical to say of the defense. If anything, they got cheated out of some calls. That was clearly a safety/intentional grounding call that was missed. That would have been called in AZ. I thought they had a couple mistakes that could have made a difference. Collins on the 2nd Njigba tunnel screen surrendering his edge and over running the play and the OLB who didn't engage Injigba on the goal-line to disrupt his route as well as the coverage off the rub route. Less than 5 plays determine the outcome in a game many times. I thought they played their guts out...I love their play.
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