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Post by End Zone on Oct 13, 2024 16:51:02 GMT -7
Sirianni to the Cardinals? That's my question of the week.
The Eagles squeaked out a win over the 1-5 Browns today. PHI's notoriously unruly and often bellicose fans told HC Nick Sirianni how they felt when the game ended. Nick gave some lip right back to the fans.
It is no secret that the Eagles coaching staff is not living up to the owner's expectations. Sirianni is on a semi-hot seat. The victory over the hapless Browns earned Sirianni another week of HC pay. The 20 points scored was half what the fans expected against the horrible Browns.
Would a suddenly unemployed head coach Sirianni come work for Gannon as his OC -- if the job was offered? I wonder about Petzing's future as the Cardinals OC. He's got to be on a hot seat after a 2-4 start. And especially after today's lackluster offensive showing.
The Cardinals scored 28 points and lost to the Bills at game 1. In 3 of the 4 losses since Sept, the Cardinals scored 13, 14, and 13 points. They beat up the hopelessly injured Rams and scored 41 points. Championship teams score 41 points per game every week no matter who they are playing.
The Cardinals offense has a long way to go before sniffing the playoffs. Maybe a new OC would help the team.
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Post by cardinalsdo on Oct 13, 2024 17:08:24 GMT -7
You need a better GM and Scouting department. A head coach can only do so much. They need players. Even Andy Reid would struggle here.
I wasn't thrilled with the last two drafts. We got some good players but very underwhelming and not deserving of their draft grades. This most recent draft was very Keim-esque. We traded down to draft small school specials and players who could have drafted in later rounds We all remember the Andy Isabella in the second round when nearly everyone on this forum was screaming to draft DK Metcalf. I felt the same thing when Cooper DeJean was sitting there in the second round for us to draft. I know I'm not alone when a lot of us were like "Did you just pass on DeJean???"
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Post by MT Diesel on Oct 13, 2024 17:46:48 GMT -7
You need a better GM and Scouting department. A head coach can only do so much. They need players. Even Andy Reid would struggle here.
I wasn't thrilled with the last two drafts. We got some good players but very underwhelming and not deserving of their draft grades. This most recent draft was very Keim-esque. We traded down to draft small school specials and players who could have drafted in later rounds We all remember the Andy Isabella in the second round when nearly everyone on this forum was screaming to draft DK Metcalf. I felt the same thing when Cooper DeJean was sitting there in the second round for us to draft. I know I'm not alone when a lot of us were like "Did you just pass on DeJean???"
DeJean is a bad example..Iowa is a terrible college with blue collar players. I have no issue with having Melton and picks over DeJean. As per DBs the FA SMB is the terrible result currently...Melton, Williams and Rabbit are bright spots. Rutgers, Syracuse and Texas A&M are as good of programs or better than Iowa. I like some of the Iowa players like last year Lucas Van Ness, Jack Campbell and a few TEs. Monti picking MHJ was a solid pick and yet the coaches can't get him prepared to play or make correct adjustments or get him in the right position as a rookie( I am not blaming MHJ at this point). There was a huge issue not picking more solid DL prospects. The 4 CBs added in 2024 when there were big needs on the DL was a big error. SMB, Melton, Jones and Davis...that was a lot of crap thrown at the wall and only Melton is sticking so far. I am aware G Williams was a rookie in 2023. He counts as a Monti addition. The young three main coaches are having growing problems. The fire is missing from their guts.
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Post by End Zone on Oct 13, 2024 18:18:00 GMT -7
You need a better GM and Scouting department. A head coach can only do so much. They need players. Even Andy Reid would struggle here.
I wasn't thrilled with the last two drafts. We got some good players but very underwhelming and not deserving of their draft grades. This most recent draft was very Keim-esque. We traded down to draft small school specials and players who could have drafted in later rounds We all remember the Andy Isabella in the second round when nearly everyone on this forum was screaming to draft DK Metcalf. I felt the same thing when Cooper DeJean was sitting there in the second round for us to draft. I know I'm not alone when a lot of us were like "Did you just pass on DeJean???"
DeJean is a bad example..Iowa is a terrible college with blue collar players. I have no issue with having Melton and picks over DeJean. As per DBs the FA SMB is the terrible result currently...Melton, Williams and Rabbit are bright spots. Rutgers, Syracuse and Texas A&M are as good of programs or better than Iowa. I like some of the Iowa players like last year Lucas Van Ness, Jack Campbell and a few TEs. Monti picking MHJ was a solid pick and yet the coaches can't get him prepared to play or make correct adjustments or get him in the right position as a rookie( I am not blaming MHJ at this point). There was a huge issue not picking more solid DL prospects. The 4 CBs added in 2024 when there were big needs on the DL was a big error. SMB, Melton, Jones and Davis...that was a lot of crap thrown at the wall and only Melton is sticking so far. I am aware G Williams was a rookie in 2023. He counts as a Monti addition. The young three main coaches are having growing problems. The fire is missing from their guts. A screamer OC would certainly be more entertaining than Drew mouthing the next play to the world.
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Post by BigRedFan on Oct 13, 2024 18:59:15 GMT -7
Shane Steichen ran the Eagles' offense in their Super Bowl season. Since his departure, Hurtz and the Eagles have been meh as far as an offense goes. Petzing and K1 wrecked Philly last year. I get our fans' ire for Petzing's play calls in blowout losses to the Commanders and today's loss but there is clear dissention in Philly between Hurtz and Sirianni.
I don't think Gannon would want a former boss being employed below him as an OC. It reeks of 'Hot seat' pressure. Ossenfort and Gannon are safe for the rest of this season. Petzing may be a different story. You can't blame DP tho' for the three fumbles lost today which killed all momentum on seemingly Cardinal comeback drives. Drew Petzing should be screaming at his position coaches for poor ball handling skills.
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Post by knobby on Oct 13, 2024 20:43:40 GMT -7
The fire is missing from their guts. An understatement. Have any of them ever 'vented' or even raise their voice, to our knowledge? Our coaches seem to be reserved; lots of talk, but no emphasis by action. That can be an asset or a liability, but are we seeing the latter now? IMHO
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Post by CardSunsCard on Oct 16, 2024 9:38:23 GMT -7
You need a better GM and Scouting department. A head coach can only do so much. They need players. Even Andy Reid would struggle here.
I wasn't thrilled with the last two drafts. We got some good players but very underwhelming and not deserving of their draft grades. This most recent draft was very Keim-esque. We traded down to draft small school specials and players who could have drafted in later rounds We all remember the Andy Isabella in the second round when nearly everyone on this forum was screaming to draft DK Metcalf. I felt the same thing when Cooper DeJean was sitting there in the second round for us to draft. I know I'm not alone when a lot of us were like "Did you just pass on DeJean???"
DeJean is a bad example..Iowa is a terrible college with blue collar players. I have no issue with having Melton and picks over DeJean. As per DBs the FA SMB is the terrible result currently...Melton, Williams and Rabbit are bright spots. Rutgers, Syracuse and Texas A&M are as good of programs or better than Iowa. I like some of the Iowa players like last year Lucas Van Ness, Jack Campbell and a few TEs. Monti picking MHJ was a solid pick and yet the coaches can't get him prepared to play or make correct adjustments or get him in the right position as a rookie( I am not blaming MHJ at this point). There was a huge issue not picking more solid DL prospects. The 4 CBs added in 2024 when there were big needs on the DL was a big error. SMB, Melton, Jones and Davis...that was a lot of crap thrown at the wall and only Melton is sticking so far. I am aware G Williams was a rookie in 2023. He counts as a Monti addition. The young three main coaches are having growing problems. The fire is missing from their guts. Iowa is TE university and also has a great history of OLs doing better in NFL than most given Ferentz was Bill B's OL coach for years. It's a blue collar program but plenty of flash programs have much worse records when it comes to NFL talent. I'm not just talking about how many guys get drafted, but also which ones do best, % wise. Alabama put out a ton of prospects but a lot of them sucked in the NFL because their college stats were inflated by playing with so many 5 star prospects. I'm actually not aware of another college program that takes more 3 star high school prospects and puts them in the NFL.
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Post by MT Diesel on Oct 16, 2024 16:06:15 GMT -7
DeJean is a bad example..Iowa is a terrible college with blue collar players. I have no issue with having Melton and picks over DeJean. As per DBs the FA SMB is the terrible result currently...Melton, Williams and Rabbit are bright spots. Rutgers, Syracuse and Texas A&M are as good of programs or better than Iowa. I like some of the Iowa players like last year Lucas Van Ness, Jack Campbell and a few TEs. Monti picking MHJ was a solid pick and yet the coaches can't get him prepared to play or make correct adjustments or get him in the right position as a rookie( I am not blaming MHJ at this point). There was a huge issue not picking more solid DL prospects. The 4 CBs added in 2024 when there were big needs on the DL was a big error. SMB, Melton, Jones and Davis...that was a lot of crap thrown at the wall and only Melton is sticking so far. I am aware G Williams was a rookie in 2023. He counts as a Monti addition. The young three main coaches are having growing problems. The fire is missing from their guts. Iowa is TE university and also has a great history of OLs doing better in NFL than most given Ferentz was Bill B's OL coach for years. It's a blue collar program but plenty of flash programs have much worse records when it comes to NFL talent. I'm not just talking about how many guys get drafted, but also which ones do best, % wise. Alabama put out a ton of prospects but a lot of them sucked in the NFL because their college stats were inflated by playing with so many 5 star prospects. I'm actually not aware of another college program that takes more 3 star high school prospects and puts them in the NFL. I prefer looking at individuals over what school they come from. I like your example of Alabama players…I agree. It is nice throwing out generalizations as heard all the time to see legitimate responses and a thought process used to defend one’s thoughts. DeJean may be fine in the NFL, I didn’t like some of his stats and thought he benefited from being a great fit for Iowa’s scheme and may struggle with what AZ’s defense was looking for. AZ had a high value on MHJ(obviously) Melton played him well as well as the coaching prepared him well for the NFL. I like the bigger bodied players or RB from Iowa over their DB players… there is always the unicorn though.
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