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Post by MT Diesel on Oct 7, 2024 18:35:48 GMT -7
It was refreshing to see a simple adjustment of dropping a DB from the base defense and having only DL or LBs in the front seven against the Niners. A Shanahan offense is dependent on the run...since the Cards went big bodies in the front seven Kyle predominantly attempted to pass...the defense dictated it.
GB is no different they want to start their offense through the run. One baby step was adjusting personnel to focus on run defense and it worked.
The next baby step is correct pass rush instead of the haphazard approach so far this year. It starts with the two edge players. They have contain as well as pinch to the QB...when they run past the QB they lose contain and fail to pinch. The interior rushers do not have to be as fast if the damn edge players do their job. This is a problem when the desire to get a sack interferes with the desired cohesive pass rush desired for success.
Once the edge players do their job the interior rusher can not allow the QB to step up in the pocket...bad things happen when the QB is allowed to step up...open throw lanes appear or the defenders are chasing a QB.
The edge players are loose with contain and continually run beyond the QB and take themselves out of the play as well as put the slow big defenders in a open field with a more mobile QB. Getting off the ball fast is a premium, but it is wasted as soon as the edge rusher fails to pinch at the QB...pinching past the QB is a complete failure and puts the rest of the defense in a bad spot.
Getting to sound FB requires baby steps not trying to reinvent.
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Post by knobby on Oct 7, 2024 19:06:31 GMT -7
It was refreshing to see a simple adjustment of dropping a DB from the base defense and having only DL or LBs in the front seven against the Niners. A Shanahan offense is dependent on the run...since the Cards went big bodies in the front seven Kyle predominantly attempted to pass...the defense dictated it. GB is no different they want to start their offense through the run. One baby step was adjusting personnel to focus on run defense and it worked. The next baby step is correct pass rush instead of the haphazard approach so far this year. It starts with the two edge players. They have contain as well as pinch to the QB...when they run past the QB they lose contain and fail to pinch. The interior rushers do not have to be as fast if the damn edge players do their job. This is a problem when the desire to get a sack interferes with the desired cohesive pass rush desired for success. Once the edge players do their job the interior rusher can not allow the QB to step up in the pocket...bad things happen when the QB is allowed to step up...open throw lanes appear or the defenders are chasing a QB. The edge players are loose with contain and continually run beyond the QB and take themselves out of the play as well as put the slow big defenders in a open field with a more mobile QB. Getting off the ball fast is a premium, but it is wasted as soon as the edge rusher fails to pinch at the QB...pinching past the QB is a complete failure and puts the rest of the defense in a bad spot. Getting to sound FB requires baby steps not trying to reinvent.
Which relates to - - - - coaching?
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Post by CardsFanQC on Oct 8, 2024 6:43:48 GMT -7
Things I'd like to see changed: DEFENSE: - MORE RABBIT SNAPS ... fearless like a younger Budda but also faster with better ball skills
- DRob's return (hopefully starting Sunday) as a disruptive inside DL with great "get-off" is not something the Cardinals have had since JJ Watt but more comparative to Darnell Dockett. Back in the day one of the most devastating defensive techniques was Darnell Dockett exploding between the C/G of the OL and then D'Wash blitzing looping around to come right up the "A" gap for sacks or a panic throw from the QB... isn't that right Russell Wilson? 2024 version is using Mack Wilson or Rabbit behind DRob getting double-teamed.
OFFENSE:- KM1 needs to run 7-10X per game ... JV podcast had a stat that the Cardinals almost never win if KM1's run total is 4 or less however it is over 80% if he runs 9X or more. Kyler's running helped prevent the 49ers defense from crashing inside which opened up the INSIDE ZONE running game by JC. My goodness - Kyler just put on tape reaching 21.8 MPH once he is in the open which all DC's have been put on notice.
- Offense needs to use more motion including Dortch jet sweeps and fake of the jet sweep ... but overall more motion sets pre-snap helps KM1 know whether defense is in man or zone and if man, Kyler knows any opportunity to run if receivers are covered could be big yardage as corners & safeties have their backs to LOS.
- KM1 under center and with JC's effective running opens up more and more play action "chunk" plays as the game moves along.
- As I stated before the 49ers game, perfect the back shoulder throws to MHJ and Wilson early in the game to setup a "stutter and go" (e.g. Wilson did this vs. 49ers but KM1 missed him but it was wide open) against the same CB later in game.
- Michael Carter over Demercado
I am hoping the return of Zay Jones will help INCLUDING his veteran leadership in the WR room which I hope pays dividends to help MHJ's development.
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Post by MT Diesel on Oct 8, 2024 8:39:50 GMT -7
To Rallis’s credit they learned low blitz rate was not working.
They had a six man blitz on the White INT play.
The blitz will also be more effective on sound gap and depth pass rush…a blitz and QB step up into pocket or escape it a terrible result for the defense.
It was a thing of beauty seeing a pair of LBs off ball in coverage not having as much field to cover.
Rabbit is essential at FS and have Thompson and Budda close to the line.
Rabbit can cover more field with his speed and he is a hitter.
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Post by CardsFanQC on Oct 8, 2024 8:58:07 GMT -7
To Rallis’s credit they learned low blitz rate was not working. They had a six man blitz on the White INT play. The blitz will also be more effective on sound gap and depth pass rush…a blitz and QB step up into pocket or escape it a terrible result for the defense. It was a thing of beauty seeing a pair of LBs off ball in coverage not having as much field to cover. Rabbit is essential at FS and have Thompson and Budda close to the line. Rabbit can cover more field with his speed and he is a hitter. I agree ... couldn't figure out for the life of me how many 3-man rushes was used against Jayden Daniels. I thought Rallis would use a couple 6-man rushes early to put some hits on JD. Jordan Love is still not 100% and a few early hits IMO are needed as "Cookie" can occasionally throw a bad INT so hitting him early to make him uncomfortable is very necessary for Sunday. Again - some "A" gap blitzes using Mack Wilson is the first quarter are going to be almost mandatory. Of course the defense early in the game will need to keep Josh Jacobs from running wild. |
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Post by CardSunsCard on Oct 8, 2024 11:11:47 GMT -7
To Rallis’s credit they learned low blitz rate was not working. They had a six man blitz on the White INT play. The blitz will also be more effective on sound gap and depth pass rush…a blitz and QB step up into pocket or escape it a terrible result for the defense. It was a thing of beauty seeing a pair of LBs off ball in coverage not having as much field to cover. Rabbit is essential at FS and have Thompson and Budda close to the line. Rabbit can cover more field with his speed and he is a hitter. 3 Man rushes only work in situations where: 1. A team has a QB that is poor at reading defenses 2. Your front 3 is entirely All-pro caliber and OL you're facing sucks 3. The other team can't run the football. As for the blitz rate I think it depends on the QB. Some QB's prefer to be blitzed, be it Brady, Warner, etc... because if you process info quickly, blitzing actually make it easier to read a defense because you're taught to identify the blitz then immediately look for the vacated area behind where the blitz comes from. If it's zone, you just look at the guy responsible for covering the hole, and either throw in front of him, or behind him if the back filler leaves a hole. Man coverage blitzes are different of course. If it's man you may throw to area vacated by blitzer, but at same time, if your pre-snap read identifies minimal backside coverage pre-snap, then the blitz tells you there's almost no chance of double coverage deep, so you automatically know your best WR likely has 1 v 1 on deep routes. All of the above assumes a 4 man front or greater. The caveat to all of the above is if it's a 3 man front. If it's a 3 man front, all the above rules don't apply, because there's an extra man on the backside to fill coverage gaps. This is why many QBs hate 3 man fronts. It slows down your processing time because it's an entirely different set of rules. With a 3 man rush, you basically can't do as accurate pre-snap read, and post snap reads take forever. You have to sit back and WAIT for things to open up. This is why I always preferred power run games. It's the only way you can FORCE the team to get away from 3 man fronts. I used to love it when teams would run 5 and 6 man fronts against me, be it base Bear defense, or nickel with extra blitzers bringing the house. Any time I saw that I would toss hot routes all day long to TE's crossing/slants into middle of field. There is a misnomer about 'hits' being what matters to all QBs. The hits didn't impact my mind. For example, if they bring more than my OL, I know I'm getting hit. I'm prepared. What sucks more, is when you face a 3 or 4 man rush and the base defense is beating your OL consistently. When that happens, as a QB, you lose confidence in your OL. Your mind goes away from your gameplan because that 'loss of trust' speeds up the clock you have in your mind. You start to reduce your mental timer, and you start to throw the ball too early on timing routes. I'm not saying hits don't physically impact you, but it's when you're mental timer is messed with that you typically have your worst games, because it throws everything off and messes with your ability to focus. |
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Post by MT Diesel on Oct 9, 2024 6:53:47 GMT -7
As per players
Michael Wilson said the players around K1 need to step up their game to his level. Well that is a different perspective than you read on this forum and many other outlets.
Two of the older QBs I really liked were Dave Crieg and Fran Tarkenton. They were short and gamers.
K1 looks different and with the Korean in there he doesn’t look like a prototypical QB in stature or his look.
Many have chose his path in their minds that he is unable to deliver or be a champion.
It was great to see remarks from Warner and Wilson this week, even Kyle Shanahan about the respect they and many in the NFL have for K1.
He has grown and takes ownership of “The Call of Duty” and even makes public jokes about it and cashes in. He isn’t a thug or a kid from the hood who couldn’t break away. He has a life outside of FB and seems to be a good person.
I am happy he is embraced by the staff and his teammates. I also hope players like MHJ up their play to his level.
When the baby steps as per players continue to happen around K1 the offense will be better.
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Post by MT Diesel on Oct 11, 2024 8:01:49 GMT -7
One area of concern and there is legitimate evidence in it is Budda is a liability in coverage. Also who is the nickel?
G Williams and Thompson are the two who possess the skills
I would propose Rabbit at FS and have Thompson and G Williams on on the field as much as possible playing (Thompson) Nickel or CB and (G Williams) CB or Nickel. Melton and SMB as CBs when needed.
Have M Wilson, White, and Budda as offball LBs.
Depending on down and distance 2-4 DL players and 1-2 OLBs
A look:
Rabbit
Wilson Budda. White
Williams. Thompson. Melton
Collins Stills Lopez. DRob.
Pretty much have Budda roam where he will and focus on stopping the run and pass blitz…limit his coverage to short or medium at the deepest.
There are all kinds of games and blitz options with white, Wilson, and Budda and Williams, Thompson, and Melton can focus on coverage and are all solid in run defense when needed.
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Post by CardSunsCard on Oct 11, 2024 11:58:16 GMT -7
As per players Michael Wilson said the players around K1 need to step up their game to his level. Well that is a different perspective than you read on this forum and many other outlets. Two of the older QBs I really liked were Dave Crieg and Fran Tarkenton. They were short and gamers. K1 looks different and with the Korean in there he doesn’t look like a prototypical QB in stature or his look. Many have chose his path in their minds that he is unable to deliver or be a champion. It was great to see remarks from Warner and Wilson this week, even Kyle Shanahan about the respect they and many in the NFL have for K1. He has grown and takes ownership of “The Call of Duty” and even makes public jokes about it and cashes in. He isn’t a thug or a kid from the hood who couldn’t break away. He has a life outside of FB and seems to be a good person. I am happy he is embraced by the staff and his teammates. I also hope players like MHJ up their play to his level. When the baby steps as per players continue to happen around K1 the offense will be better. Tarkenton was one of my favorites to but it was a different era. OL were way shorter back then. Now there are plenty of 6'5 and 6'7 monsters. Kyler would have been the #1 QB if he played back in that era. Granted, he would have been injured long term since rules didn't protect QBs. For as much as I liked Tarkenton, he was really the first 'sandlot' QB |
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Post by devongent on Oct 12, 2024 1:28:59 GMT -7
One area of concern and there is legitimate evidence in it is Budda is a liability in coverage. Also who is the nickel? G Williams and Thompson are the two who possess the skills I would propose Rabbit at FS and have Thompson and G Williams on on the field as much as possible playing (Thompson) Nickel or CB and (G Williams) CB or Nickel. Melton and SMB as CBs when needed. Have M Wilson, White, and Budda as offball LBs. Depending on down and distance 2-4 DL players and 1-2 OLBs A look: Rabbit Wilson Budda. White Williams. Thompson. Melton Collins Stills Lopez. DRob. Pretty much have Budda roam where he will and focus on stopping the run and pass blitz…limit his coverage to short or medium at the deepest. There are all kinds of games and blitz options with white, Wilson, and Budda and Williams, Thompson, and Melton can focus on coverage and are all solid in run defense when needed. Promoting Budda into the back-row (in a 4-3 line up) is an interesting idea/ concept and generally speaking the closer he is to the line of scrummage then the better (so it would seem). My question is around Kyzir White,; has he the physical stature and toughness to be a dominating MIKE in this set-up, to glue everything together and set up a dynamic and robust base to attack against the opponents running game? If so, we could have the answers in-house and be on a winner. - If not, then I will be hunting for a bigger and stronger linebacker in the draft to take up this role. I want a 'tackling-machine, enforcer' character. Mack Wilson is an imposing figure who has physicality for the line back position. One way or the other we have the makings of a good ILB trio, we just need it all coordinated correctly and the right people taking on their best roles. |
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Post by MT Diesel on Oct 12, 2024 5:44:35 GMT -7
One area of concern and there is legitimate evidence in it is Budda is a liability in coverage. Also who is the nickel? G Williams and Thompson are the two who possess the skills I would propose Rabbit at FS and have Thompson and G Williams on on the field as much as possible playing (Thompson) Nickel or CB and (G Williams) CB or Nickel. Melton and SMB as CBs when needed. Have M Wilson, White, and Budda as offball LBs. Depending on down and distance 2-4 DL players and 1-2 OLBs A look: Rabbit Wilson Budda. White Williams. Thompson. Melton Collins Stills Lopez. DRob. Pretty much have Budda roam where he will and focus on stopping the run and pass blitz…limit his coverage to short or medium at the deepest. There are all kinds of games and blitz options with white, Wilson, and Budda and Williams, Thompson, and Melton can focus on coverage and are all solid in run defense when needed. Promoting Budda into the back-row (in a 4-3 line up) is an interesting idea/ concept and generally speaking the closer he is to the line of scrummage then the better (so it would seem). My question is around Kyzir White,; has he the physical stature and toughness to be a dominating MIKE in this set-up, to glue everything together and set up a dynamic and robust base to attack against the opponents running game? If so, we could have the answers in-house and be on a winner. - If not, then I will be hunting for a bigger and stronger linebacker in the draft to take up this role. I want a 'tackling-machine, enforcer' character. Mack Wilson is an imposing figure who has physicality for the line back position. One way or the other we have the makings of a good ILB trio, we just need it all coordinated correctly and the right people taking on their best roles. The best roles for the players on the roster is the key...I think a more veteran DC would be quicker to make the needed adjustments as per roles and in game adjustments. The roster is young as well as the coaching staff. I still like Rallis and he will figure it out. |
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Post by cbltv on Oct 12, 2024 12:44:21 GMT -7
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