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Post by Dry Heat on Sept 26, 2024 10:01:46 GMT -7
I said any one you want, not any one of them. Big difference. And as it was during I believe our Patrick Peterson discussions way back, it’s never as simple as replacing the talent of one guy. It’s about spending wisely at the most important positions. Do you enjoy having our second highest paid player a $19 million safety and our third highest a $12.5 million safety? Because that’s where we are right now. Did you enjoy using two straight first round draft picks on ILB’s? S and ILB are THE TWO cheapest and easiest to replace positions on defense. Well in addition to Peterson who initially continued to thrive when he left while we're still to this day struggling at that position, I also vaguely recall us discussing cap cost and examples I pointed to that contradicted your base argument about practicality when it comes to paying for players. But all that aside here's my overall opinion in general, which is basically that I'm not a fan of what I view as a rob Peter to pay Paul approach, or letting go a proven asset in order to reach back for a player that you let go because they did better after leaving you. I also don't believe in changing my mind about a proven player just because they feel they are worth a better contract. Takes me back to Boldin and my then agreement with Kurt Warner when he said pay the man. Thank God that didn't happen with Fitz when people (here) questioned keeping him for what we could have gotten for him. Yes I realize it's a business and players realize that too, I just think the goal should be adding to what's working for you. I'd be thrilled for example to see Riddick back but not by giving up an anchor on defense to bring him back, which he (Riddick) probably wouldn't wanna do anyway. But as always, just my opinion. It's Bidwill's money not mine (lol!)/ All good, and it’s all just our opinions. I will say Peterson did not “continue to thrive”. He had a good 2022, but for us in 2020 he was an overpaid 55 PPF corner with a PED suspension and drama, in 2021 he was an overpaid (and injured) mediocre 63 PFF CB, and last year he was an overpaid 60 PFF CB for the Steelers. They signed him for two years but cut him for this season and he’s watching games from home. He’s been all hat no cattle for years, and kept the big mouth and ego without the play to back it up. |
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Post by Dry Heat on Sept 26, 2024 10:27:00 GMT -7
Aaron Rodgers took a swipe at Reddick and his agent, accusing them as leaking false info about the Jet’s organization and locker room. I can’t see Reddick repairing the relationship with the Jets, who he never wanted to play for, and playing a snap for them now. Jets are in a situation where the only reason they wouldn’t trade him is spite, and I’d imagine there are business people in charge who will cut their losses.
I think he’d happily return and play here. If there are hard feelings, it would be with how another GM and coaching staff misused him and then moved on from him. The Cardinals ownership gave him his first job in the NFL and our current coach was his DC during his best two years, where he was played correctly and thrived.
The Jets have little to lose. They gave up a 2026 third rounder to the Eagles that could have become a second rounder if certain conditions were met. Offer them a 2026 4th or a 2025 5th. He’s 30 years old, and is in the final year of a 3 year, $45 million deal with the Eagles. His salary for the rest of the year would be no problem, but more likely a new deal would be done for three or so seasons, ages 30-33.
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Post by Dry Heat on Sept 26, 2024 10:29:52 GMT -7
Bleacher Report sees us as the best option for a Jets trade:
“Cardinals Get: Edge Haason Reddick, 2025 Sixth-Round Pick
Jets Get: 2026 Third-Round Pick
The Arizona Cardinals should be atop the list of interested teams if Reddick does become available. Arizona recorded just 33 sacks as a team last season, and it has already lost pass-rusher B.J. Ojulari for the season to a torn ACL.
The big question here is whether Reddick would want to return to the franchise that drafted him. That remains an unknown, but the presence of head coach Jonathan Gannon could help draw his interest.
Gannon was the Eagles' defensive coordinator in 2022, a campaign Reddick finished with a career-high 16 sacks.
With $25.3 million in cap space available, Arizona could also afford to sign Reddick to an extension.
At this point in Reddick's contract sage, New York is unlikely to get back what it sent to Philadelphia—a conditional 2026 third-round pick that can become a second-round pick if he reaches 67.5 percent of playing time and 10 sacks—but the Cardinals might be willing to offer something similar.
Based on its Week 1 performance, Arizona might be a little more competitive this season than most expected, but it still feels likely that the Cardinals will be picking in the top half of each round. To balance out the trade, the Cards request one of New York's two 2025 sixth-round selections.”
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Post by Dry Heat on Sept 26, 2024 10:35:06 GMT -7
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Post by fightingfalcon on Sept 26, 2024 14:24:45 GMT -7
Consider that if the Cardinals had sent a first round pick to the Jets for Reddick. . . .
the Cardinals would now be 3-0 and be would already be penciled in for the playoffs by the NFL Smart Money boys. . .
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Post by Dry Heat on Sept 26, 2024 14:32:32 GMT -7
Consider that if the Cardinals had sent a first round pick to the Jets for Reddick. . . . the Cardinals would now be 3-0 and be would already be penciled in for the playoffs by the NFL Smart Money boys. . . No we would be out a 1st and possibly 2-1, because our defense would have a legit 10+ sack 30 yr old vet who was used perfectly by Gannon. I wouldn’t give a 1st. I would give a 2026 4th and a three year deal. |
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Post by melgray85 on Sept 26, 2024 17:31:24 GMT -7
Bleacher Report sees us as the best option for a Jets trade: “Cardinals Get: Edge Haason Reddick, 2025 Sixth-Round Pick Jets Get: 2026 Third-Round Pick The Arizona Cardinals should be atop the list of interested teams if Reddick does become available. Arizona recorded just 33 sacks as a team last season, and it has already lost pass-rusher B.J. Ojulari for the season to a torn ACL. The big question here is whether Reddick would want to return to the franchise that drafted him. That remains an unknown, but the presence of head coach Jonathan Gannon could help draw his interest. Gannon was the Eagles' defensive coordinator in 2022, a campaign Reddick finished with a career-high 16 sacks. With $25.3 million in cap space available, Arizona could also afford to sign Reddick to an extension. At this point in Reddick's contract sage, New York is unlikely to get back what it sent to Philadelphia—a conditional 2026 third-round pick that can become a second-round pick if he reaches 67.5 percent of playing time and 10 sacks—but the Cardinals might be willing to offer something similar. Based on its Week 1 performance, Arizona might be a little more competitive this season than most expected, but it still feels likely that the Cardinals will be picking in the top half of each round. To balance out the trade, the Cards request one of New York's two 2025 sixth-round selections.” This makes more sense to me than giving up Budda to bring back Reddick. |
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Post by vwvectors on Sept 26, 2024 18:48:41 GMT -7
Bleacher Report sees us as the best option for a Jets trade: “Cardinals Get: Edge Haason Reddick, 2025 Sixth-Round Pick Jets Get: 2026 Third-Round Pick The Arizona Cardinals should be atop the list of interested teams if Reddick does become available. Arizona recorded just 33 sacks as a team last season, and it has already lost pass-rusher B.J. Ojulari for the season to a torn ACL. The big question here is whether Reddick would want to return to the franchise that drafted him. That remains an unknown, but the presence of head coach Jonathan Gannon could help draw his interest. Gannon was the Eagles' defensive coordinator in 2022, a campaign Reddick finished with a career-high 16 sacks. With $25.3 million in cap space available, Arizona could also afford to sign Reddick to an extension. At this point in Reddick's contract sage, New York is unlikely to get back what it sent to Philadelphia—a conditional 2026 third-round pick that can become a second-round pick if he reaches 67.5 percent of playing time and 10 sacks—but the Cardinals might be willing to offer something similar. Based on its Week 1 performance, Arizona might be a little more competitive this season than most expected, but it still feels likely that the Cardinals will be picking in the top half of each round. To balance out the trade, the Cards request one of New York's two 2025 sixth-round selections.” I’m all for this trade as long it doesn’t get to rich price & more importantly draft wise (we need draft capital not losing any). |
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