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Post by Redbirdfan62 on Apr 18, 2024 14:13:36 GMT -7
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Post by devongent on Apr 18, 2024 14:45:23 GMT -7
A Trade Down (IMO) would be the best option for the Patriots, their Offense was awful last year. I don't think what they do changes much as far as the Cardinals are concerned unless, of course, they stand firm and pick Marvin Harrison Jr #3...!
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Post by Redbirdfan62 on Apr 18, 2024 16:50:42 GMT -7
A Trade Down (IMO) would be the best option for the Patriots, their Offense was awful last year. I don't think what they do changes much as far as the Cardinals are concerned unless, of course, they stand firm and pick Marvin Harrison Jr #3...! I just do not see Qb going 123 and 4 I really don't think it matters what the pats do.
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Post by CardsFanQC on Apr 18, 2024 17:11:41 GMT -7
Benjamin Albright stated tonight on the JV podcast that the Pats GM is interested in trading down but Robert Kraft wants a QB. He also stated he thought the Cards would "stick and pick" drafting MHJ and the Chargers will trade down with Vikes.
Albright also said that around the league most front offices have MHJ/Nabers on One Tier, then Odunze on a next level & then Brian Thomas Jr. another level down.
P.S. Benjamin Albright says Chargers like a few OT's better than Alt which is why want to trade back since Latham/Fuega will be available at #11. I believe the trade is either with the Giants or MHJ is a Cardinal in 7 days and about 30 minutes.
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Post by Dry Heat on Apr 18, 2024 21:36:23 GMT -7
Benjamin Albright stated tonight on the JV podcast that the Pats GM is interested in trading down but Robert Kraft wants a QB. He also stated he thought the Cards would "stick and pick" drafting MHJ and the Chargers will trade down with Vikes. Albright also said that around the league most front offices have MHJ/Nabers on One Tier, then Odunze on a next level & then Brian Thomas Jr. another level down. P.S. Benjamin Albright says Chargers like a few OT's better than Alt which is why want to trade back since Latham/Fuega will be available at #11. I believe the trade is either with the Giants or MHJ is a Cardinal in 7 days and about 30 minutes. Can’t believe we are one week away. Every single year for the last 7 years I’ve been visiting California on exactly draft weekend, as my oldest kids both went to the same university out there and each year draft weekend also fell on move out weekend. I’ve either watched bits and pieces of the draft at my hotel room or listened to some of it on the radio and then hopped on here at bedtime to discuss. This year only my daughter is there, and she’s a Junior staying put in the townhome she rents while working in Malibu. This to me is the most exciting draft we’ve had in the AZ years. I might make a big deal out of it. Order some good food, invite some friends over, stoke up the grill, move some work around to clear up time!
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Post by somecardsfan on Apr 19, 2024 5:45:22 GMT -7
Benjamin Albright stated tonight on the JV podcast that the Pats GM is interested in trading down but Robert Kraft wants a QB. He also stated he thought the Cards would "stick and pick" drafting MHJ and the Chargers will trade down with Vikes. Albright also said that around the league most front offices have MHJ/Nabers on One Tier, then Odunze on a next level & then Brian Thomas Jr. another level down. P.S. Benjamin Albright says Chargers like a few OT's better than Alt which is why want to trade back since Latham/Fuega will be available at #11. I believe the trade is either with the Giants or MHJ is a Cardinal in 7 days and about 30 minutes. I just dont see the Chargers picking a WR at 5 with their new HC. Harbaugh wins through running the ball. Heck, his success in San Fran was behind a running QB.
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Post by flash on Apr 19, 2024 7:34:08 GMT -7
This morning on NFL Radio, Todd Haley was on there with the main host. Haley brought up Marvin. He thinks that Marvin falls into the category of some of the best WR's in history, including his dad.
Haley and Soloman(the main host) talked about the Patriots. They both mentioned that taking a QB is not a good option in their opinion. They did mention something about there was rumor that they would want draft picks but also a player to consider a trade down. They brought up the Vikings and Justin Jefferson as a trade player option. They did mention would the Patriots want to pay what Jefferson wants. They said that he is looking to be the highest paid WR and wants in the 30 million plus per year.
They also mentioned that if the Vikings trade up for a QB, that it would more than likely not be for J.J. McCarthy but for one of the 3 top QB's. The second scenario they mentioned was if they don't trade up to the #3 pick, that they would trade up with the Chargers or Giants and take their QB there.
They felt a trade with the Patriots would be good for both of them. They went on to say the concern is that taking one of the top 3 QB's might be a mistake because there are too many pieces missing to help the Rookie QB succeed.
I just started listening to NFL Radio recently. If you have Sirius XM...you should be able to listen to the broadcast. They have a Arizona Cardinals channel on there. But at this time it is only broadcasting generic info on sports. I am thinking that when the season starts, the channel will provide Arizona Cardinals topics mostly. Ex GM's, Coaches and current and ex Players are guests on the broadcast. Some include Bill Polian, Todd Haley, Rich Gannon and others. Just thought you guys would be interested in hearing the opinions of people that were involved with the game at all levels.
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Post by knobby on Apr 19, 2024 11:51:25 GMT -7
They went on to say the concern is that taking one of the top 3 QB's might be a mistake because there are too many pieces missing to help the Rookie QB succeed. Yet we hear that Kraft, the Pats owner, wants a QB. Will he insist? I suspect he thinks that since Brady they have had no strong QB and their record shows it - and thus may not agree with his staff about what position to draft first, or trade picks. This makes for yet another angle in the soap opera that is year's NFL draft guesswork. Can they? Should they? Will they? What if? Fun times, NFL wise... IMHO
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Post by flash on Apr 19, 2024 11:58:12 GMT -7
They went on to say the concern is that taking one of the top 3 QB's might be a mistake because there are too many pieces missing to help the Rookie QB succeed. Yet we hear that Kraft, the Pats owner, wants a QB. Will he insist? I suspect he thinks that since Brady they have had no strong QB and their record shows it - and thus may not agree with his staff about what position to draft first, or trade picks. This makes for yet another angle in the soap opera that is year's NFL draft guesswork. Can they? Should they? Will they? What if? Fun times, NFL wise... IMHO If Kraft does want a QB, does not mean they won't trade down and pick one of the other QB's available. Isn't that the same as if we trade down, doesn't mean we won't get a #1 WR?
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Post by knobby on Apr 19, 2024 12:47:09 GMT -7
Yet we hear that Kraft, the Pats owner, wants a QB. Will he insist? I suspect he thinks that since Brady they have had no strong QB and their record shows it - and thus may not agree with his staff about what position to draft first, or trade picks.
This makes for yet another angle in the soap opera that is year's NFL draft guesswork. Can they? Should they? Will they? What if?
Fun times, NFL wise...
IMHO If Kraft does want a QB, does not mean they won't trade down and pick one of the other QB's available. Isn't that the same as if we trade down, doesn't mean we won't get a #1 WR? They could, just as we could - and hope that their preferred QB was there. It might be that their choice QB was taken before then, making Kraft a bit upset. Their only insurance is to pick their guy immediately, not to wait
and hope everything drops their way. Why draft just any QB when you
you have a preference for one perceived savior?
Another aspect is that the numbers of "#1" QBs compared to the number of quality WRs is not equal, there being more of the latter available in this draft. ("quality" and "#1" being arbitrary terms in each case)
As with the entire draft, too many what-ifs and personal preferences to complicate such questions - thus no real answers.
IMHO
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Post by End Zone on Apr 19, 2024 13:17:51 GMT -7
Benjamin Albright stated tonight on the JV podcast that the Pats GM is interested in trading down but Robert Kraft wants a QB. He also stated he thought the Cards would "stick and pick" drafting MHJ and the Chargers will trade down with Vikes. Albright also said that around the league most front offices have MHJ/Nabers on One Tier, then Odunze on a next level & then Brian Thomas Jr. another level down. P.S. Benjamin Albright says Chargers like a few OT's better than Alt which is why want to trade back since Latham/Fuega will be available at #11. I believe the trade is either with the Giants or MHJ is a Cardinal in 7 days and about 30 minutes. I just dont see the Chargers picking a WR at 5 with their new HC. Harbaugh wins through running the ball. Heck, his success in San Fran was behind a running QB. Either Harbaugh takes BPA or he trades down a few spots to get more fresh talent that helps his known strategy of 'run first.' OL Alt might be Harbaugh's BPA at #5. Herbert is also going to be asked to run more in the manner of QB Allen at BUF. Herbert is huge and fast and that has to affect Harbaugh's run first planning. My thoughts carry on to #6, if the Cardinals and Giants cut a deal. MHJ falls to ARZ.
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Post by flash on Apr 19, 2024 15:23:59 GMT -7
If Kraft does want a QB, does not mean they won't trade down and pick one of the other QB's available. Isn't that the same as if we trade down, doesn't mean we won't get a #1 WR? They could, just as we could - and hope that their preferred QB was there. It might be that their choice QB was taken before then, making Kraft a bit upset. Their only insurance is to pick their guy immediately, not to wait
and hope everything drops their way. Why draft just any QB when you
you have a preference for one perceived savior?
Another aspect is that the numbers of "#1" QBs compared to the number of quality WRs is not equal, there being more of the latter available in this draft. ("quality" and "#1" being arbitrary terms in each case)
As with the entire draft, too many what-ifs and personal preferences to complicate such questions - thus no real answers.
IMHO
Knobby,
Since we don't need a QB, why not do the same with a WR? If Kraft prefers drafting a QB to trading down, that must mean he thinks he can pick the best QB for his team, right? And they do need a QB, right? Do we need a WR? Yes we do. So, why not pick the best one available to us? We don't know if McCarthy will be better than Daniels or Maye. But if Kraft doesn't want the trade down, he thinks Daniels or Maye are better than McCarthy. At least I would think that is the reason. If any team needs to add additional picks to help their team, it is certainly the Patriots.
The question here is not whether the QB's to WR's is not equal, but rather going after the best player that fills a specific need.
So, if we needed a RB really bad, would you want to go after the best RB on the board if he was being projected as "generational" or trade down for more picks?
You probably already know my answer. And I already know what your answer would be...ha ha ha
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Post by knobby on Apr 19, 2024 16:43:34 GMT -7
You probably already know my answer. And I already know what your answer would be...ha ha ha
Yep. But neither of us own a team, so it's meaningless.
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