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2025
Apr 5, 2024 14:34:38 GMT -7
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Post by supercard on Apr 5, 2024 14:34:38 GMT -7
As much as I want 2024 to be a golden year (Super Bowl contenders), we have too many holes to fill. Sure we can fill some of them with this draft, but not enough. I think in Monti’s plan he is gunning for 2025 to unleash a much feared team. I think this team with a great draft this year will be very competitive start to finish. At least 8 or maybe 9 wins- contenders for wild card. Monti wants to build this team in the classic model. Great OL that can run or pass at easy, Great DL that stuffs the run and edge rushing, solid corner play.
The pick at 4 will show IMO that Monti wants and needs additional picks to fill the major holes need for big run of 2025. Sacrifice a star wr in MHJ (blasphemy you say even to myself), to fill needs at edge, DL, Corner, OL. It’s star power (SK way), v’s team power (Monti’s way).
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Apr 5, 2024 15:31:02 GMT -7
Post by Dry Heat on Apr 5, 2024 15:31:02 GMT -7
I hope so, but I still hope we land a WR1 and won’t be a bit mad if it’s MHJ, Nabers or Odunze. There’s room in my closet for any of their jerseys if Cardinal Red!
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2025
Apr 5, 2024 15:50:40 GMT -7
Post by supercard on Apr 5, 2024 15:50:40 GMT -7
I hope so, but I still hope we land a WR1 and won’t be a bit mad if it’s MHJ, Nabers or Odunze. There’s room in my closet for any of their jerseys if Cardinal Red! True, this is decision that could define the Cardinals for next several years.
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Post by cardinalsins on Apr 5, 2024 16:43:56 GMT -7
I know the forum probably sees me as the Kyler Murray Stan...and thats fine...but if he doesn't impress next year, we might see Monti move on in 25.
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2025
Apr 5, 2024 18:11:29 GMT -7
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Post by jeffcardinalfan on Apr 5, 2024 18:11:29 GMT -7
I know the forum probably sees me as the Kyler Murray Stan...and thats fine...but if he doesn't impress next year, we might see Monti move on in 25. I also am a believer in the little dude but I also think that he has to do it this year. No excuses. Hopefully his injury humbled him a little bit and hopefully he will be lights out from day one of camp and will mature into a leader of this team.
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2025
Apr 5, 2024 19:04:45 GMT -7
Post by supercard on Apr 5, 2024 19:04:45 GMT -7
Baring injury he is ready to take that next step IMO.
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Apr 5, 2024 20:55:37 GMT -7
Post by Redbirdfan62 on Apr 5, 2024 20:55:37 GMT -7
Baring injury he is ready to take that next step IMO. I hope you are right.
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Post by thomas cat on Apr 5, 2024 21:36:37 GMT -7
As much as I want 2024 to be a golden year (Super Bowl contenders), we have too many holes to fill. Sure we can fill some of them with this draft, but not enough. I think in Monti’s plan he is gunning for 2025 to unleash a much feared team. I think this team with a great draft this year will be very competitive start to finish. At least 8 or maybe 9 wins- contenders for wild card. Monti wants to build this team in the classic model. Great OL that can run or pass at easy, Great DL that stuffs the run and edge rushing, solid corner play. The pick at 4 will show IMO that Monti wants and needs additional picks to fill the major holes need for big run of 2025. Sacrifice a star wr in MHJ (blasphemy you say even to myself), to fill needs at edge, DL, Corner, OL. It’s star power (SK way), v’s team power (Monti’s way). Here is something we all have to remember. Maybe not all but most rookies will take a year or two to shine....maybe even more. I think we had a good draft last year, and I think we will have a good one this year, but it might take another year or so to actually see how good it was. For the most part, how good you draft cannot be determined until a year or two later. Rebuilding takes time, especially if you are going to do it with rookies.
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2025
Apr 6, 2024 3:14:10 GMT -7
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Post by jeffcardinalfan on Apr 6, 2024 3:14:10 GMT -7
As much as I want 2024 to be a golden year (Super Bowl contenders), we have too many holes to fill. Sure we can fill some of them with this draft, but not enough. I think in Monti’s plan he is gunning for 2025 to unleash a much feared team. I think this team with a great draft this year will be very competitive start to finish. At least 8 or maybe 9 wins- contenders for wild card. Monti wants to build this team in the classic model. Great OL that can run or pass at easy, Great DL that stuffs the run and edge rushing, solid corner play. The pick at 4 will show IMO that Monti wants and needs additional picks to fill the major holes need for big run of 2025. Sacrifice a star wr in MHJ (blasphemy you say even to myself), to fill needs at edge, DL, Corner, OL. It’s star power (SK way), v’s team power (Monti’s way). Here is something we all have to remember. Maybe not all but most rookies will take a year or two to shine....maybe even more. I think we had a good draft last year, and I think we will have a good one this year, but it might take another year or so to actually see how good it was. For the most part, how good you draft cannot be determined until a year or two later. Rebuilding takes time, especially if you are going to do it with rookies. maybe I'm looking at it through Rose colored glasses but I honestly think that on offense one of the top interior offensive lineman as a draftee and a number one wide receiver and the offense is ready to compete for a super bowl. With the addition of a left guard the offensive line will be at least in the top third of the nfl. I think we're in pretty good shape with Connor and Carter as the running backs. I think we're going to see a world of difference with the little dude when he has a true number one ride receiver that is bigger and with the expected continue to emergence of Wilson and McBride I think the passing game will be fine as well. Of course injuries sre6going to pay a huge part in this as they will with every team in the league. On the defensive side of the ball it's pretty clear that there are a lot of draftees who even as rookies would improve the defense considerably. Hey my humble opinion on defense you need at least one near All pro level performer at each of the three levels of defense. And each of the three levels are dependent upon each other. As an example it's clear that Buddha Baker if he's still going to be on the team is much more effective playing close to the line of scrimmage and is an excellent blitzer. However if the other secondary members can't hold their own then it's difficult to use Baker in that role a lot. I feel really confident that there are three or four corners in the draft do an instantly make our secondary better even though they're going to be rookies. A lot depends upon bunting and whether or not he plays up to the level he has played in the past or if he has another stinker. In other words lacking an elite pass rusher a strong secondary can allow more flexibility on using blitzers to get sacks and quarterback pressures. If the defensive line can stop the run without safeties being near the line of scrimmage then that definitely helps the secondary out and obvious passing situations. One of the main problems I think the Cardinals have had for a couple of decades at least is they had a few Superstar players scattered here and there but there was a huge drop off between those guys and the rest of players at the same position. A couple examples are how many years were the Cardinals desperate for a left tackle? How many years were they desperate for another corner to play opposite of aneas williams?
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Post by CardsFanQC on Apr 7, 2024 6:03:20 GMT -7
I agree with the sentiments of this thread that the Cards have too many holes to expect 2024 to be the year the Cards shock the league and compete for the NFC West division title. However let me outline a scenario(s) which could put the Cardinals on the path to win 11 games + and NFC West Division Title holders in 2025. First - the NFC West Division becomes weaker in 2025 than the last 10 yrs - Seattle no longer has a HOF coach and they are still searching for a franchise QB.
- Rams no longer have the best defensive player in football (Aaron Donald) and Matt Stafford with his ailing back will be 37 1/2 years of age by start of 2025 season. HC McVay has hinted about retiring early so if no more Donald and diminishing QB health ... could this lead to Rams having to select a new HC by 2025?
- 49ers - Brock Purdy is now making $50M+/APY in 2025 - 2029, Trent Williams and George Kittle are now retired and the 49ers are in Cap Jail which forced them to not resign Brandon Aiyuk. BTW - even though McCaffery will be age 29 in 2025, I note this past year when the 49ers were "going for it" that McCaffery (whom earlier in career was known as injury prone - last 3 yrs in Carolina he only played in 1/3 of their games) had a whopping 339 touches this past year (rushing/pass receiving and 339 is ONLY the regular season in a year the 49ers went to SB) after a more respectable 211 touches with 49ers in 2022. McCaffery's 339 touches was 10% more than the next highest RB (Derrick Henry) touches for 2023.. I will also point out that Alvin Kamara for his career has 1800 touches which is almost exactly what McCaffery has going into 2024. Note that Alvin Kamara his rookie season had a 6.1/Yr Avg per carry but in 2023 was only 3.9 yds/carry ... in other words, Kamara's production has started falling off precipitously.
MY Conclusion on the 49ers -- 2024 is their best chance for a Lombardi but IMO they will run McCaffery into the ground with another year of 350+ touches. I believe either 2024 or 2025 will be an injury-plagued season for IMO the 49ers #1 offensive weapon. One more thing on 49ers -- should they be worried Nick Bosa's sack production which fell off almost 50% in 2023? ... just asking. For 2025 - I'd like to let you know the facts below regarding current projected CAP SPACE for 2025 of the NFC West teams -
- AZ Cardinals - almost $113M of cap space
- 49ers - OVER the Cap by $23M
- Seattle - $1M of Cap Space
- Rams -- $12M of Cap Space; Aaron Donald's VOID year cap hit in 2025 is over $38M !! For those who complain about other teams getting around the cap -- sooner or later it comes back to bite you in the butt.
Later today I'll post my scenario(s) on how the Cardinals and Monti/JG could fulfill the Lions model of taking 2 yrs rebuild before being ready to become a team other NFC foes don't want to face in the playoffs. For now - I'll let you review my comments above and see way(s) for the AZ Cardinals to be able to take over this division within 18 mos.
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Apr 7, 2024 12:00:22 GMT -7
Post by End Zone on Apr 7, 2024 12:00:22 GMT -7
Despite the excellent 2023 draft, followed by a promising first season under Ossenfort and Gannon, the 2024 season will probably be another Cardinals wipeout in the NFL, NFC, and West Division rankings. SF, LAR, and SEA (SEA has a new HC) already have solid rosters. ARZ is still building a team for the future. The ARZ rookies that make the Final 53 roster will contribute, but they will not lift the team high enough to avoid the NFCW basement. The odds favor an ARZ 4th place Division finish one more time before climbing out of the gutter for good in 2025.
I'm still signing up for YT Sunday Ticket. Fee is $450 this year. Gulp. ST is worth the price if the Cardinals double the wins this season.
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Apr 7, 2024 12:07:02 GMT -7
Post by End Zone on Apr 7, 2024 12:07:02 GMT -7
I agree with the sentiments of this thread that the Cards have too many holes to expect 2024 to be the year the Cards shock the league and compete for the NFC West division title. However let me outline a scenario(s) which could put the Cardinals on the path to win 11 games + and NFC West Division Title holders in 2025. First - the NFC West Division becomes weaker in 2025 than the last 10 yrs - Seattle no longer has a HOF coach and they are still searching for a franchise QB.
- Rams no longer have the best defensive player in football (Aaron Donald) and Matt Stafford with his ailing back will be 37 1/2 years of age by start of 2025 season. HC McVay has hinted about retiring early so if no more Donald and diminishing QB health ... could this lead to Rams having to select a new HC by 2025?
- 49ers - Brock Purdy is now making $50M+/APY in 2025 - 2029, Trent Williams and George Kittle are now retired and the 49ers are in Cap Jail which forced them to not resign Brandon Aiyuk. BTW - even though McCaffery will be age 29 in 2025, I note this past year when the 49ers were "going for it" that McCaffery (whom earlier in career was known as injury prone - last 3 yrs in Carolina he only played in 1/3 of their games) had a whopping 339 touches this past year (rushing/pass receiving and 339 is ONLY the regular season in a year the 49ers went to SB) after a more respectable 211 touches with 49ers in 2022. McCaffery's 339 touches was 10% more than the next highest RB (Derrick Henry) touches for 2023.. I will also point out that Alvin Kamara for his career has 1800 touches which is almost exactly what McCaffery has going into 2024. Note that Alvin Kamara his rookie season had a 6.1/Yr Avg per carry but in 2023 was only 3.9 yds/carry ... in other words, Kamara's production has started falling off precipitously.
MY Conclusion on the 49ers -- 2024 is their best chance for a Lombardi but IMO they will run McCaffery into the ground with another year of 350+ touches. I believe either 2024 or 2025 will be an injury-plagued season for IMO the 49ers #1 offensive weapon. One more thing on 49ers -- should they be worried Nick Bosa's sack production which fell off almost 50% in 2023? ... just asking. For 2025 - I'd like to let you know the facts below regarding current projected CAP SPACE for 2025 of the NFC West teams -
- AZ Cardinals - almost $113M of cap space
- 49ers - OVER the Cap by $23M
- Seattle - $1M of Cap Space
- Rams -- $12M of Cap Space; Aaron Donald's VOID year cap hit in 2025 is over $38M !! For those who complain about other teams getting around the cap -- sooner or later it comes back to bite you in the butt.
Later today I'll post my scenario(s) on how the Cardinals and Monti/JG could fulfill the Lions model of taking 2 yrs rebuild before being ready to become a team other NFC foes don't want to face in the playoffs. For now - I'll let you review my comments above and see way(s) for the AZ Cardinals to be able to take over this division within 18 mos. The Cardinals CAP space went up substantially prior to Free Agency starting last month (March) and I see no huge improvements yet (April). I project the $113 million-dollar estimated CAP in 2025 will be mostly gobbled up by contract extensions and inflation clauses. After paying those costs, how much is left to sign new talent? If we use this off-season as a gauge, whereby Monti valued player durability/dependability and position flexibility over a BIG NAME WITH A BIG EGO AND AN EXPENSIVE AGENT, I think Monti will continue to be cautious about signing veteran Free Agents the next offseason in early 2025.
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Post by CardsFanQC on Apr 8, 2024 4:09:02 GMT -7
I agree with the sentiments of this thread that the Cards have too many holes to expect 2024 to be the year the Cards shock the league and compete for the NFC West division title. However let me outline a scenario(s) which could put the Cardinals on the path to win 11 games + and NFC West Division Title holders in 2025. First - the NFC West Division becomes weaker in 2025 than the last 10 yrs - Seattle no longer has a HOF coach and they are still searching for a franchise QB.
- Rams no longer have the best defensive player in football (Aaron Donald) and Matt Stafford with his ailing back will be 37 1/2 years of age by start of 2025 season. HC McVay has hinted about retiring early so if no more Donald and diminishing QB health ... could this lead to Rams having to select a new HC by 2025?
- 49ers - Brock Purdy is now making $50M+/APY in 2025 - 2029, Trent Williams and George Kittle are now retired and the 49ers are in Cap Jail which forced them to not resign Brandon Aiyuk. BTW - even though McCaffery will be age 29 in 2025, I note this past year when the 49ers were "going for it" that McCaffery (whom earlier in career was known as injury prone - last 3 yrs in Carolina he only played in 1/3 of their games) had a whopping 339 touches this past year (rushing/pass receiving and 339 is ONLY the regular season in a year the 49ers went to SB) after a more respectable 211 touches with 49ers in 2022. McCaffery's 339 touches was 10% more than the next highest RB (Derrick Henry) touches for 2023.. I will also point out that Alvin Kamara for his career has 1800 touches which is almost exactly what McCaffery has going into 2024. Note that Alvin Kamara his rookie season had a 6.1/Yr Avg per carry but in 2023 was only 3.9 yds/carry ... in other words, Kamara's production has started falling off precipitously.
MY Conclusion on the 49ers -- 2024 is their best chance for a Lombardi but IMO they will run McCaffery into the ground with another year of 350+ touches. I believe either 2024 or 2025 will be an injury-plagued season for IMO the 49ers #1 offensive weapon. One more thing on 49ers -- should they be worried Nick Bosa's sack production which fell off almost 50% in 2023? ... just asking. For 2025 - I'd like to let you know the facts below regarding current projected CAP SPACE for 2025 of the NFC West teams -
- AZ Cardinals - almost $113M of cap space
- 49ers - OVER the Cap by $23M
- Seattle - $1M of Cap Space
- Rams -- $12M of Cap Space; Aaron Donald's VOID year cap hit in 2025 is over $38M !! For those who complain about other teams getting around the cap -- sooner or later it comes back to bite you in the butt.
Later today I'll post my scenario(s) on how the Cardinals and Monti/JG could fulfill the Lions model of taking 2 yrs rebuild before being ready to become a team other NFC foes don't want to face in the playoffs. For now - I'll let you review my comments above and see way(s) for the AZ Cardinals to be able to take over this division within 18 mos. The Cardinals CAP space went up substantially prior to Free Agency starting last month (March) and I see no huge improvements yet (April). I project the $113 million-dollar estimated CAP in 2025 will be mostly gobbled up by contract extensions and inflation clauses. After paying those costs, how much is left to sign new talent? If we use this off-season as a gauge, whereby Monti valued player durability/dependability and position flexibility over a BIG NAME WITH A BIG EGO AND AN EXPENSIVE AGENT, I think Monti will continue to be cautious about signing veteran Free Agents the next offseason in early 2025. EZ -- I would disagree a bit with you as the plethora of picks available to the Cards (even before trades) at end of this month and with the desire for the coaches to play rookies, the 2024 rookie class with take up at least 9-10 spots on the 53 man roster (almost 20%) with CHEAP, young labor. Additionally, keep in mind that the Cards will have the 4th pick for waiver claims just like last year which was also able to bring in a couple of players who stuck on the 53 in 2023. I believe again the rookies will by far lead the league in 2024 in snaps played and I have faith in this coaching staff in PLAYER DEVELOPMENT. So I believe Monti/JG/Sears are all on the Lions model and 2025 has been eye-balled by this regime to become a big threat. Right now coming into this draft the team has about 8-9 spots which need to be filled with better football players but with 6 picks (possible with trades this could balloon up to 7-8) in the top 90, I believe in 2025 the "holes" will be down to 3-4 so the cap can be spent on at least 2 higher priced FA's. The most interesting "experiment" by this coaching staff and all indications they think the experiment might work is ZAVEN COLLINS. IMO Zaven needs to watch tape of former Steeler James Harrison who also came into the NFL out of small school (Kent State) and floundered for about 3-4 yrs. Zaven is thinking too much but much like Harrison is a bigger, thicker edge player and needs to explode with power into the OL while displaying very busy hands. Development of Zaven into a 9-10 sack edge guy could really help this defense. BTW - at beginning of 2023, when the defense had 1st string guys playing DL, the Cards were in top 10 in sacks but as the injuries mounted and Rallis forced to play 3rd and 4th stringers ... that is when the sack totals plummeted. I believe upgrading the DL will help the team's sack totals in 2024.
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Post by CardSunsCard on Apr 9, 2024 6:28:36 GMT -7
As much as I want 2024 to be a golden year (Super Bowl contenders), we have too many holes to fill. Sure we can fill some of them with this draft, but not enough. I think in Monti’s plan he is gunning for 2025 to unleash a much feared team. I think this team with a great draft this year will be very competitive start to finish. At least 8 or maybe 9 wins- contenders for wild card. Monti wants to build this team in the classic model. Great OL that can run or pass at easy, Great DL that stuffs the run and edge rushing, solid corner play. The pick at 4 will show IMO that Monti wants and needs additional picks to fill the major holes need for big run of 2025. Sacrifice a star wr in MHJ (blasphemy you say even to myself), to fill needs at edge, DL, Corner, OL. It’s star power (SK way), v’s team power (Monti’s way). We won't win a Super Bowl but we have a much easier shot at the playoffs with San Fran imploding and Seattle/Rams in full rebuild. Before San Fran's implosion I figured we'd get at least 8-9 wins this year. Assuming we draft well, I think we are going to win 9-10 this year, and likely win our division. I think we can do this even if Kyler plays mediocre. The only way I don't see us doing so is major injury bugs. Anything less than 9 wins this year is going to be a huge disappointment for me. And Kyler needs to take advantage of San Fran, Rams and Seattle rebuilding, because I believe we can rebuild faster than all of them given we cleaned up our cap and have booku draft capital. I think many may think I'm being optimistic, but I'm basing projections off who I think we will draft, not just our roster as it looks today. Also agree with CardsFanQ that Zaven could be the big difference maker for us this year, especially since I expect him to have more help this year.
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