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Post by Dry Heat on Nov 26, 2023 17:40:09 GMT -7
Everyone is focussed on K1 and he is a big piece. With the owner having to cough up 10’s of millions to move on from K1…I don’t see it. It is time to shut K1 down before he is really hurt. K1 is playing bad…the WRs are not getting open. When Rams played press man there was no open WRs. The defense has no pass rush, run defense and no coverage…so that is also an issue. The NE Pats and the Panthers are going to be in full tank mode so the Cards need to lose the rest of the games. This is the second season with too many players on IR so the new staff has issues coaching and keeping players healthy. Not sure if 12 picks will give the needed help. Today’s game was lost after the first drive and Petzing allowed K1 to be the focus. Panthers dont own their first pick, so they are actually trying which is funny. If NE loses out and and Panthers also, based on SOS we would pick third. So maybe not pick of those top 2 QB's. Our SOS is within .1 of NE’s and those shift a bit each week, so we may luck out and rise above NE with the same record.
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Post by aris on Nov 26, 2023 17:44:50 GMT -7
Panthers dont own their first pick, so they are actually trying which is funny. If NE loses out and and Panthers also, based on SOS we would pick third. So maybe not pick of those top 2 QB's. Our SOS is within .1 of NE’s and those shift a bit each week, so we may luck out and rise above NE with the same record. I was wondering about that, but looking forward we play San Fran and Philly, so i think we maintain a stronger SOS which hurts us. And if we beat the Bears.....
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Post by CardSunsCard on Nov 26, 2023 20:04:58 GMT -7
Everyone is focussed on K1 and he is a big piece. With the owner having to cough up 10’s of millions to move on from K1…I don’t see it. It is time to shut K1 down before he is really hurt. K1 is playing bad…the WRs are not getting open. When Rams played press man there was no open WRs. The defense has no pass rush, run defense and no coverage…so that is also an issue. The NE Pats and the Panthers are going to be in full tank mode so the Cards need to lose the rest of the games. This is the second season with too many players on IR so the new staff has issues coaching and keeping players healthy. Not sure if 12 picks will give the needed help. Today’s game was lost after the first drive and Petzing allowed K1 to be the focus. WRs were open last week, the entire game, so that excuse isn't one I'll accept. Today they may have been covered more, but open WRs isn't issue because Kyler doesn't see them when they are open. Not unless he's out of the pocket. He has terrible visibility.
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Post by thomas cat on Nov 26, 2023 20:30:19 GMT -7
Ugh...not a good day to be a Cardinal fan.
I'm not going to kick a man/the team when they are down. I get no pleasure in that.
I would be a lot madder if we had more talent and then put on this poor show. But that is the problem, we have so little talent. Even mediocre teams have more talent.
Some of that is by design. We got rid of players that had some talent but didn't fit long term and was paying too much for them. I am fine with that. Then for whatever reason, we seem to have far more guys on IR than most teams. Why is that?
Before all the injuries started mount up, we gave almost everybody a competitive game, ( Hell, we beat the Cowboys ) but now we are scrapping the bottom of the barrel bringing up practice squad guys no one has ever heard of.....lol
The only bright spot for me was as bad as things went, the guys that were out there seemed to play hard, even when things were going south.
I'm still keeping the faith, but these are trying times.
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Post by melgray85 on Nov 26, 2023 20:31:11 GMT -7
to say he's tradable is a joke. No NFL franchise will take on that contract. Like I said in WEEK 1 of Kylers return. Dont get too high over it. And lots of people hated that. I think it had more to do with your lack of credit where KM was concerned that game rather than anyone trying to over hype KM
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Post by Chirpn’time on Nov 26, 2023 20:52:43 GMT -7
Everyone is focussed on K1 and he is a big piece. With the owner having to cough up 10’s of millions to move on from K1…I don’t see it. It is time to shut K1 down before he is really hurt. K1 is playing bad…the WRs are not getting open. When Rams played press man there was no open WRs. The defense has no pass rush, run defense and no coverage…so that is also an issue. The NE Pats and the Panthers are going to be in full tank mode so the Cards need to lose the rest of the games. This is the second season with too many players on IR so the new staff has issues coaching and keeping players healthy. Not sure if 12 picks will give the needed help. Today’s game was lost after the first drive and Petzing allowed K1 to be the focus. WRs were open last week, the entire game, so that excuse isn't one I'll accept. Today they may have been covered more, but open WRs isn't issue because Kyler doesn't see them when they are open. Not unless he's out of the pocket. He has terrible visibility. My post was about Rams. He can see down field, but he is predetermining his throws (4th down throw to McBride was a classic example) With McBride and Wilson he has a chance. With McBride only and the mini me’s….no chance. Some of K1’s issues can be cleaned up…he needs more coaching for sure. A top QB coach would be a great investment. Brown is horrible and they were forcing throws to him. Play calling is terrible when Conner is running strong and gets 6 carries it is a problem. Moore and Brown’s future is a big ? Cards need a confident tall #1 WR over every position currently. With the money owed K1…I do not see the team moving on from him.
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Post by End Zone on Nov 27, 2023 8:17:06 GMT -7
Everyone is focussed on K1 and he is a big piece. With the owner having to cough up 10’s of millions to move on from K1…I don’t see it. It is time to shut K1 down before he is really hurt. K1 is playing bad…the WRs are not getting open. When Rams played press man there was no open WRs. The defense has no pass rush, run defense and no coverage…so that is also an issue. The NE Pats and the Panthers are going to be in full tank mode so the Cards need to lose the rest of the games. This is the second season with too many players on IR so the new staff has issues coaching and keeping players healthy. Not sure if 12 picks will give the needed help. Today’s game was lost after the first drive and Petzing allowed K1 to be the focus. Panthers dont own their first pick, so they are actually trying which is funny. If NE loses out and and Panthers also, based on SOS we would pick third. So maybe not pick of those top 2 QB's. I moseyed over to the NE Patriots site. That team might beat the Jets in the last game of the season. Don't hold your breath though. Rodgers is threatening to come back early. If that happens, the Pats finish 2-15, the same as the Cardinals at 2-15. SOS decides the #2 pick this year. Going down to the wire.
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Post by Redbirdfan62 on Nov 27, 2023 8:58:56 GMT -7
Our SOS is within .1 of NE’s and those shift a bit each week, so we may luck out and rise above NE with the same record. I was wondering about that, but looking forward we play San Fran and Philly, so i think we maintain a stronger SOS which hurts us. And if we beat the Bears..... That is so friggen bogus you play the rougher schedule and they punish you for it. I understand their thinking but lets face it the patriots are flat out tanking now after seeing who they are losing to. Hopefully they choose the wrong Qb lol.
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Post by Redbirdfan62 on Nov 27, 2023 9:00:04 GMT -7
Panthers dont own their first pick, so they are actually trying which is funny. If NE loses out and and Panthers also, based on SOS we would pick third. So maybe not pick of those top 2 QB's. I moseyed over to the NE Patriots site. That team might beat the Jets in the last game of the season. Don't hold your breath though. Rodgers is threatening to come back early. If that happens, the Pats finish 2-15, the same as the Cardinals at 2-15. SOS decides the #2 pick this year. Going down to the wire. They are not even trying to win.
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Post by Redbirdfan62 on Nov 27, 2023 9:02:07 GMT -7
WRs were open last week, the entire game, so that excuse isn't one I'll accept. Today they may have been covered more, but open WRs isn't issue because Kyler doesn't see them when they are open. Not unless he's out of the pocket. He has terrible visibility. My post was about Rams. He can see down field, but he is predetermining his throws (4th down throw to McBride was a classic example) With McBride and Wilson he has a chance. With McBride only and the mini me’s….no chance. Some of K1’s issues can be cleaned up…he needs more coaching for sure. A top QB coach would be a great investment. Brown is horrible and they were forcing throws to him. Play calling is terrible when Conner is running strong and gets 6 carries it is a problem. Moore and Brown’s future is a big ? Cards need a confident tall #1 WR over every position currently. With the money owed K1…I do not see the team moving on from him. Yes I am a believer small Qb's need big targets.
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Post by cardinalsins on Nov 27, 2023 10:02:47 GMT -7
I hate the Rams.
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Post by End Zone on Nov 27, 2023 14:19:59 GMT -7
ARZ is junior varsity compared to LAR. The numbers are facts. We own it now.
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