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Post by CrazyCanuck on May 11, 2018 7:56:24 GMT -7
Good question, but I don't think there will be any answers till After the June 1st date is reached. Wilks and Staff will assess the current Crop of players starting with the Rookie Camp tomorrow. Then after some evaluations from on field activities who knows? Unfortunately for Reid with his filing of the lawsuit, that will hinder his playing for Any NFL team this year if not resolved quickly. Breeland last I heard is still coming off an injury, so big ? mark as to availability for him. And as for Vaccaro and Boston, still a long time till Training camp starts. They are at the mercy of the collective league teams' injury reports and needs. The June first cuts are a thing of the past. Teams do their cuts early and designate some as June for accounting purposes and thus allow players more time to find a new home. Keim is patient because he knows prices go down as training camp approaches. |
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Post by Dry Heat on May 11, 2018 17:29:27 GMT -7
At this point why spend any money on older vets? If we are going to spend money, make it count for 2019 and beyond, the Rosen era.
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Post by End Zone on May 12, 2018 4:29:16 GMT -7
At this point why spend any money on older vets? If we are going to spend money, make it count for 2019 and beyond, the Rosen era. Exactly! SK will be sitting on maybe $75M cap space dollars, and that's conservative, by early 2019. Depending on how the 2018 season goes, some 1-year prove it guys will want to get paid. There will be plenty left in the bank to go after top FA playmakers that can help Rosen, Johnson, and Peterson. |
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2018 5:14:39 GMT -7
Good question, but I don't think there will be any answers till After the June 1st date is reached. Wilks and Staff will assess the current Crop of players starting with the Rookie Camp tomorrow. Then after some evaluations from on field activities who knows? Unfortunately for Reid with his filing of the lawsuit, that will hinder his playing for Any NFL team this year if not resolved quickly. Breeland last I heard is still coming off an injury, so big ? mark as to availability for him. And as for Vaccaro and Boston, still a long time till Training camp starts. They are at the mercy of the collective league teams' injury reports and needs. The June first cuts are a thing of the past. Teams do their cuts early and designate some as June for accounting purposes and thus allow players more time to find a new home. Keim is patient because he knows prices go down as training camp approaches. Is this a recent thing? You all have talked about the June1st cuts for the past 5 years. |
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Post by cardstj22 on May 12, 2018 7:43:24 GMT -7
Wilks will develop a #2 cb out of this group. I think it's Brandon Williams and possibly an unknown from the rookie undrafted group at S or corner too.
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Post by Dry Heat on May 12, 2018 10:12:18 GMT -7
At this point why spend any money on older vets? If we are going to spend money, make it count for 2019 and beyond, the Rosen era. Exactly! SK will be sitting on maybe $75M cap space dollars, and that's conservative, by early 2019. Depending on how the 2018 season goes, some 1-year prove it guys will want to get paid. There will be plenty left in the bank to go after top FA playmakers that can help Rosen, Johnson, and Peterson. Yes...I’d rather keep as much of that $75+ million to address the needs that will become apparent over the course of this season, as new coaches, players, and rookie QB start to learn their playbooks and gel together. I’m not concerned about our record in 2018, just our progress. Don’t use existing cap on an old guy for a one year deal...push it forward to next year, spend it on a young FA who can be here for years, or use it in the extensions we may want to do for DBuc, DJ, etc. |
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Post by CardsFanQC on May 12, 2018 10:57:32 GMT -7
I think HC Wilks can make a decent show of getting one of them up to being at least an avg CB2. Think the Cardinals have any interest in Breeland/Vaccaro/Boston/Reid? 98.7 reported the Cards are interested in all the safeties -- Vaccarro/Boston/Reid but need the price to go down. I liked Tre Boston coming out of college and he was with the Panthers so Cards I am sure are on his radar for the right price. Note that PFF ranked him highly in pass coverage -- chargerswire.usatoday.com/2017/11/25/pff-chargers-tre-boston-nfls-best-safety-in-coverage/UDFA Chris Campbell did have a pick-6 yesterday at rookie camp -- not sure it'll be him but I do have some confidence Wilks will coach-up at least one of the young CB's to add depth in secondary. P.S. Wonder if SK would bring in Hagemann for DL depth or whether they will wait on some vets in post June cuts. |
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Post by CrazyCanuck on May 12, 2018 12:01:45 GMT -7
The June first cuts are a thing of the past. Teams do their cuts early and designate some as June for accounting purposes and thus allow players more time to find a new home. Keim is patient because he knows prices go down as training camp approaches. Is this a recent thing? You all have talked about the June1st cuts for the past 5 years. The whole June 1st thing died with the last collective agreement. Posters mention it but it actually has no bearing on release date because players can be designated as June 1 cuts no matter when they are released in the early part of the business year. Teams simply decide whether a player fits into their plans and if not, release him so he can find a job. |
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Post by CrazyCanuck on May 12, 2018 12:07:06 GMT -7
Exactly! SK will be sitting on maybe $75M cap space dollars, and that's conservative, by early 2019. Depending on how the 2018 season goes, some 1-year prove it guys will want to get paid. There will be plenty left in the bank to go after top FA playmakers that can help Rosen, Johnson, and Peterson. Yes...I’d rather keep as much of that $75+ million to address the needs that will become apparent over the course of this season, as new coaches, players, and rookie QB start to learn their playbooks and gel together. I’m not concerned about our record in 2018, just our progress. Don’t use existing cap on an old guy for a one year deal...push it forward to next year, spend it on a young FA who can be here for years, or use it in the extensions we may want to do for DBuc, DJ, etc. Well, I'm confident that Mike Bidwill, Keim, Wilks and the players do care about their record this season. Adding vets where needed for 2018 will in no way mortgage the future. The Cards will have more than enough space to compete on the market in 2019. |
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Post by Darth Llama on May 12, 2018 12:26:45 GMT -7
CB #2 is definitely a position of concern for me.
I want to believe in Brandon Williams.. I just.. don't. I thought it was reach drafting him to begin with (3rd round was way too high for a CB that had only played 13 games at the position) and he just doesn't look viable to me at that position. He was highly touted in camp after being drafted way too high, then when put on the field he got lit up left and right.
Christian Campbell has promise, but looks like more of a project guy then an instant starter.
I know it sounds crazy, but I wouldn't mind giving a 1 year 'prove it' deal to former Rams CB Kayvon Webster. He's only 27, but he's had injury issues, if he could stay healthy.. he's a solid player and would probalby be willing to take any offer given to him. Last I heard of him though, he failed a physical before being released so that may not be an option.
Free Agency is awful slim right now at the CB position, it's going to be fairly difficult to get someone to fill this spot. We did sign Bené Benwikere and Marcus Williams in the off season, but again.. these guys just seem like depth guys.
Hard to say right now who has the inside track to start opposite PP, I have to say that looking from the outside.. I am not liking the list of options we currently have.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2018 7:24:38 GMT -7
It's all still up in the air isn't it? Wilks is a proven DB Coach, but now being a HC how much can he realistically be involved in the DB process? Oh I'm sure he will be involved and have much input. But not as much as when he was in Carolina. HC position does demand a more broader focus.
DC Holcomb along with his DB coaches, David Merritt, Sr - Defensive Backs Coach and Charlie Harbison - Assistant Defensive Backs Coach, will be the ones with the biggest imprint on this new roster in regards to CB and Safety positions.
Much to watch and see how it sifts out this spring and summer.
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Post by aris on May 14, 2018 11:00:00 GMT -7
They are still trying to justify BW for the that spot. Keim will not put his ego aside and acknowledge he made a TERRIBLE pick. Instead BW is already named number two based on a terrible history at that position. What a joke.
I love how people think Wilks can turn every dud into Josh Norman. It happened once like it could on many teams. It's not happening with BW.
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Post by Zaz on May 14, 2018 11:32:45 GMT -7
They are still trying to justify BW for the that spot. Keim will not put his ego aside and acknowledge he made a TERRIBLE pick. Instead BW is already named number two based on a terrible history at that position. What a joke. I love how people think Wilks can turn every dud into Josh Norman. It happened once like it could on many teams. It's not happening with BW. Thats my theory. Keim wont give it up and admit his failure. "C'mon guys hes still learning, I promise he's gonna be a stud!". No hes not Steve. That was a pick. |
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2018 11:58:42 GMT -7
 So you 2 think HC Wilks has no input on BW huh?!
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Post by knobby on May 14, 2018 13:10:58 GMT -7
 So you 2 think HC Wilks has no input on BW huh?!
Input, yes. Control, no. Keim outranks Wilks, and like they say in the military, 'Rank Has It's Privileges'. That's the way corporations work. But it's early in the season, and everything is new with the team.
My 2 cents...
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So you 2 think HC Wilks has no input on BW huh?! 
So you 2 think HC Wilks has no input on BW huh?! 