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Post by Zaz on Dec 12, 2018 12:18:45 GMT -7
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Post by jonlp24 on Dec 12, 2018 12:31:14 GMT -7
Don't be surprised if it does happen. All it takes is for another city/municipal/county/state to agree to their demands. Sports subsidies like other corporate welfare is a scam.(I know no politics but sports subsidies is one area where politics and sports intersect.) Phoenix council reportedly to vote on $180m in Suns arena subsidies next month, with no public input “Is Phoenix really going to plunk down $150 million on the Suns arena?” asks the headline on yesterday’s Laurie Roberts column in the Arizona Republic. Betteridge’s Law says no, but Roberts says yeah, maybe: Several city sources tell me there’s a push on to get the deal done by the end of the year. Talk of an arena deal has ramped up inside city hall this month — ever since Kate Gallego, the leading candidate for Phoenix mayor, announced she would not support putting city money into a new or improved arena for the Suns… The arena vote is expected to take place in early December — ramming it down the city’s throat before a new mayor is elected. That would seem like a super-aggressive timetable, especially since only four votes on the council are needed to kill any deal. But though Roberts notes that a public approval process is necessary to build a new arena, city leaders think they can get away without one if they’re just “refurbishing” an old one: Councilman Sal DiCiccio said he thinks the city can go forward because the voter-approved ordinance says only that public approval is needed before building a new sports facility. “I believe legally that we can do this,” he said. “The real question is whether or not the intent of the voters was to do that and I don’t know that. I really don’t know.” Roberts reports that the proposed deal would involve $150 million in city cash up front, plus another $2 million a year for maintenance costs, which would come to a total of about $180 million in present value. The Suns owners would pay $80 million, or less than a third of the cost — though obviously that ratio could change once we learn about any rent payments or tax rebates or naming-rights fees. At least we can hope that all those details will come out during a measured public oversight process … oh wait. www.fieldofschemes.com/2018/11/21/14311/phoenix-council-reportedly-to-vote-on-180m-in-suns-arena-subsidies-next-month-with-no-public-input/
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Post by jonlp24 on Dec 12, 2018 13:05:07 GMT -7
Phoenix residents’ hate is so strong that council delays Suns arena vote to let them express it Okay, I didn’t see this coming: The Phoenix City Council is expected to delay a vote on a $230 million Talking Stick Resort Arena renovation following backlash from the community. The council was slated to vote on the deal, which could keep the Phoenix Suns in downtown until 2042, Wednesday afternoon. But the council will now likely vote to delay the final vote until Jan. 23, allowing Mayor Thelda Williams to host two additional community meetings to solicit feedback before the council decision, according to city sources. I mean, why do you even plan to rush through a vote to avoid public scrutiny, if you’re then going to turn around and delay the vote so there can be more public scrutiny? The Arizona Republic report doesn’t say, but it sure sounds like Mayor Williams was having a hard time getting the needed six votes on the nine-member council, especially after news broke that Phoenix residents hate the arena funding plan with a fiery, all-consuming passion. More on this in the coming days, I’m sure. www.fieldofschemes.com/2018/12/12/14397/phoenix-residents-hate-is-so-strong-that-council-delays-suns-arena-vote-to-let-them-express-it/
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Post by Zaz on Dec 12, 2018 15:25:58 GMT -7
I hate the idea of tax money paying for billionaires stadiums as well, but honestly thats the tradeoff. The Suns, Cards, Coyotes, Dbacks draw billions into our economy. Paying for their stadiums is a crappy, but small price to pay for teams we love.
Wheres our tax money going to go to otherwise? That morons mexico wall? Ill pay for 6 stadiums before that thing
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Post by Redbirdfan62 on Dec 13, 2018 17:20:45 GMT -7
This guy is the joke of the NBA.This franchise has gone down hill since the departure of the colangelo's. If I didn't like the suns so much I would say don't let the door hit ya where the Lord split ya.
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